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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: barrym381 on 04 November 2013, 20:08
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mk7 gti on fifth gear :smiley:
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mk7 gti on fifth gear :smiley:
When? :huh:
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I would assume its the one airing now on Discovery channel- I'm sky+'ing it
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mk7 gti on fifth gear :smiley:
When? :huh:
After the adverts.
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I hope it's a good review, I watch the gadget show and plus 5th gear.
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Well I guess Tiff wont be wanting one then... the bad points he was saying that you cant turn the stability off, but in the real world who turns theirs fully off anyways? I understand if you go to a track where its safe but I think most people will be leaving it fully on.. I might be wrong tho
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mk7 gti on fifth gear :smiley:
As he misses the point completely of the GTI as a road car though I do agree there should be option to turn everything off for track days.
But the limits that Tiff drives to would see most of us wrapping it into some trees and personally I like good pace with an assured and footed feeling which is why like my present so much it is what I personally seek.
So fact Tiff cannot get it out of shape really assures me that in fact my selection has been a good one.
By way mine is being delivered on back of a loader Thursday :)
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Tiff does not like the MK7. Much preferred the MK5!
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If people turned it off they would be spinning like that b-max did.... now for the old guys this should be better!
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did anyone else notice he was in a DSG on the road and manual on the track??
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It's all very well and good getting a racing driver to test a car designed for the road on a track and complain about the driving experience.
I'm a Tiff fan, but sometimes I feel these racing driver journalists miss the point and fail to see the bigger picture when reviewing a car.
I love hooning it down a back road as much as many of us here (we wouldn't have bought GTI's/GTD's if we just wanted to plod about!) but for 90% of the time when I'm driving about in traffic or slogging it up the motorway, I'm looking for a supple ride and good mid-range torque, coupled with a gearbox that enhances progress!
Chris Harris gets it right a lot of the time and is able to deliver a well rounded review... Hence the reason why he loves the GTI!
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It's the same with most of these motoring journalists. If the car doesn't have the potential to kill you then it's rubbish
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cant see old tiff buying the mk7 gti :shocked: to many driver aids
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Is this the one with the Volvo racing in it? Trying to figure it out on the sky plus!
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Is this the one with the Volvo racing in it? Trying to figure it out on the sky plus!
yes blue volvo touring car :evil: even the s6 is nice
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yes blue volvo touring car :evil: even the s6 is nice
Sweet, it's on again tonight in HD so got it set to record. Thanks! :smiley:
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yes blue volvo touring car :evil: even the s6 is nice
Sweet, it's on again tonight in HD so got it set to record. Thanks! :smiley:
I don't think its on tonight. It was on 520 at 12pm today and 521 at 1pm today. Next airing is Sat 9 Nov at 3pm on 520 and 4pm on 521, then Monday 11 Nov at 7pm on 524 according to the sky tv guide
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Overall, this is disappointing rubbish, but I can see the point Tiff is making.
If I'd wanted a hard core vehicle I'd have purchased a Focus ST, but the comfort of the ride in most situations was a primary concern. My other current car is a MINI Countryman CS All4 which rides punishingly enough to be called a "real" peformance car by people who like to think that a hard ride is the equivalent to a sporty drive, even though it's way slower than the GTI.
As for sliding around on public roads, just see how well that goes down with your local constabulary...
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I don't think its on tonight. It was on 520 at 12pm today and 521 at 1pm today. Next airing is Sat 9 Nov at 3pm on 520 and 4pm on 521, then Monday 11 Nov at 7pm on 524 according to the sky tv guide
I probably mistook the 12pm for being in the evening!
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Overall, this is disappointing rubbish, but I can see the point Tiff is making.
If I'd wanted a hard core vehicle I'd have purchased a Focus ST, but the comfort of the ride in most situations was a primary concern. My other current car is a MINI Countryman CS All4 which rides punishingly enough to be called a "real" peformance car by people who like to think that a hard ride is the equivalent to a sporty drive, even though it's way slower than the GTI.
As for sliding around on public roads, just see how well that goes down with your local constabulary...
Now there's something i thought i would never read - MINI countryman and performance car in the same sentence :grin: :grin:
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Never mind the Mk7, we all knew what Tiffany was going to say about that. What got me was Ray Partner's "concourse" Mk2. It picks up trophies left right and center, yet looks like this underneath.
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t264/dubber36/rustytash_zpsc7201786.jpg) (http://s162.photobucket.com/user/dubber36/media/rustytash_zpsc7201786.jpg.html)
I'm too ashamed to enter mine because it looks like that... at the moment.
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Love how he slates the Golf and its electronic safety systems then in the group test wanks all over the safety systems in that!!! :laugh:
Yes they are different cars but as others have said if you are driving at Needell speeds on the public highway you will need all the help you can get
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Its official then. Mk7 GTi's are sh!te.
I expect the Mk5 and 6 forum to become busier from here on in.
I would just treat is at what the show represents. 10/10ths and the Golf may be wanting, but surely the Golf was always intended to be the best compromise of performance and everything else, which is exactly what it is.
A bloody good all round hot hatchback, unlike the other compromised cars within its peer group.
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It is a big kick in the bollox though
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watched this last night as a result of seeing this thread. Didnt read the comments on here as i didnt want to spoil it but i expected a decent review and a comparable bunch of tests against other current gen hot hatches like the ST but instead all we get is Tiff b!tching and moaning about the stability control. Very disappointed, hopefully Clarkson will see the review and demand Top Gear do a proper tv one to counter it.
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It is a big kick in the bollox though
Nothings changed. When the Mk2 was new, it was outpaced by the Escort RS Turbo and Astra GTE, out handled by the 205 GTI and looked quite somber compared to all of the other hot hatches, but the Golf was the car we all aspired to.
Also when was the last time you saw a Mk3 Escort, Mk2 Astra or a Peugeot 205 on the road? I reckon you'll see a Mk2 Golf most days. That says a lot.
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Not nice to have your new pride and Joy slagged off on TV ,However , If he was reviewing track cars for the 0.01%
of the population likely to corner at 100mph and risk binning it ,only Plato is Brave enough to ride with him most of the time, then he is right .
However, want to have a top quality ,Cool ,and Safe Hot Hatch ,with the pedigree of a Royal poodle !!!! GOLF GTI :cool: :cool:
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i wouldn't worry about it having driven 5/6/7 on same roads back to back the Mk7 GTI was the more planted with better feedback and quicker despite less power
edition 30 owners are feeling smug but not everyone want to drive a car that is 6-7 years old
in reality has anyone how has come from a 5, 6 or Rocco said that it was the better car
keep the faith
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i wouldn't worry about it having driven 5/6/7 on same roads back to back the Mk7 GTI was the more planted with better feedback and quicker despite less power
edition 30 owners are feeling smug but not everyone want to drive a car that is 6-7 years old
in reality has anyone how has come from a 5, 6 or Rocco said that it was the better car
keep the faith
Think most would see it as a positive in that Tiff was driving it pretty rapidly and probably well beyond limits any of us would come close to on the road and he still could not get it out of shape.
That is reason I have the Quattro and have gone for the GTD as that is what I am seeking so Tiff review gave me even more assurance than already had.
There is a Youtube review somewhere of an ST against a GTI on a track and the ST is all over the place and ended up being slower around the track. Sliding might be 'fun' on a track but on a road it is last thing you want.
Chris Harris review is most balanced seen based on road driving.
I like Tiff for what he can do to a car, it is fun to see a car taken to it's limit on a track and I agree for that purpose all driving aids should be selectable to be switched off, even if there is an on screen disclaimer when doing so but I would never take his view on a car for the road as that is not where his passion lies
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Who actually cares what some has been hack thinks?? It's a sh1t show anyways, on a cr@p channel and hardly anyone watches it! All that matters is if you like the car - which if you haven't got your hands on it yet, trust me you will! :smiley: If you have got yours, you know it's the nuts!
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These aren't real world driving reviews and they don't mean anything. These type of reviews all love rear wheel drive BMWs cos you can hang the tail out on the track. Try pushing a powerful rear wheel drive car on normal country roads and you'll soon change the colour of your trousers!! :grin: :grin:
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Love how he slates the Golf and its electronic safety systems then in the group test wanks all over the safety systems in that!!! :laugh:
Yes they are different cars but as others have said if you are driving at Needell speeds on the public highway you will need all the help you can get
finally just watched this with the wife and it is funny how in the space of 10 mins the hate and love for esp appears
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I bought a GTi because I wanted a car:
- My wife could go shopping in
- I could take the mother-in-law out in at the weekend
- That could be fun for me and have staggering performance and still be safe
What I didn't want is a car:- That tried to shake my kidneys out
- That attract every boy racer to a traffic challenge
- That was painted bright orange and so attracted police attention
- To belt round a race track and drift in bends
I was surprised that there was no option to have the car without badges and I am still thinking of de-badging it.
That's this GTi buyer's reasons for purchase. Fifth Gear? I've got 6...
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Who actually cares what some has been hack thinks?? It's a sh1t show anyways, on a cr@p channel and hardly anyone watches it! All that matters is if you like the car - which if you haven't got your hands on it yet, trust me you will! :smiley: If you have got yours, you know it's the nuts!
Spot on!!!
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I bought a GTi because I wanted a car:- My wife could go shopping in
- I could take the mother-in-law out in at the weekend
- That could be fun for me and have staggering performance and still be safe
Well... you got two out of three... whilst they're reasonably quick, I wouldn't say the performance is "staggering"...
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I bought a GTi because I wanted a car:- My wife could go shopping in
- I could take the mother-in-law out in at the weekend
- That could be fun for me and have staggering performance and still be safe
What I didn't want is a car:- That tried to shake my kidneys out
- That attract every boy racer to a traffic challenge
- That was painted bright orange and so attracted police attention
- To belt round a race track and drift in bends
I was surprised that there was no option to have the car without badges and I am still thinking of de-badging it.
That's this GTi buyer's reasons for purchase. Fifth Gear? I've got 6...
I totally agree :cool:
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I bought a GTi because I wanted a car:- My wife could go shopping in
- I could take the mother-in-law out in at the weekend
- That could be fun for me and have staggering performance and still be safe
Well... you got two out of three... whilst they're reasonably quick, I wouldn't say the performance is "staggering"...
Average performance
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That review was totally ridiculous concluding the GTI is no good because the ESP cannot be deactivated. Im sure Tiff has missed the point of a hot hatch......real world driving for the average person to have fun in a safe car which does not cost a fortune to buy or run. Not to scream around corners sidewards with the rear tyres smoking.
I agree if id wanted to buy a hatch which goes sidewards around a local roundabout just before the police give me some points and a fine id buy a BMW and not a Golf.
Ian
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Another typical racing driver review based on track performance :rolleyes:
When will journos realise that the majority of car buyers will never take their cars on a track.
Its rather ironic that they then go on later in the show to praise the Fiesta BMax for its high tech driver aids :grin:
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5th Gear is no longer on prime time TV.
I think that speaks for itself regarding it's content and quality.
I have been surprised it lasted so long.
It utter 5hit!
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5th Gear is no longer on prime time TV.
I think that speaks for itself regarding it's content and quality.
I have been surprised it lasted so long.
It utter 5hit!
5th Gear is trying to be Top Gear in many ways. Regardless of we we think of either program, we'll still watch them.
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It's on again at 3pm today, I haven't managed to watch it yet - can't wait to see what the fuss it about!
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OK so I watched it and I think Tiff has a blinkered view on what is required out of a car. When putting together a TV program you want to throw your cars around the track and get them sideways. In reality on the road, this is the last thing you want to happen.
However he does have a point about not being able to turn it off. You should have the choice really.
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I don't have sky is there anywhere I can watch 5th gear ?
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I don't have sky is there anywhere I can watch 5th gear ?
youtube or discovery website :smiley:
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http://youtu.be/3_4DLrwrafQ just found it ,all abit silly really why would you want to turn the esp off and go around corners sideways :rolleyes: and no mention of the brake upgrade
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http://youtu.be/3_4DLrwrafQ just found it cheers
Thanks for the link - finally watched it - the most laughable review of a ROAD car I've ever wasted my time watching - no wonder no one watches that sh1te anymore :grin:
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http://youtu.be/3_4DLrwrafQ just found it cheers
Thanks for the link - finally watched it - the most laughable review of a ROAD car I've ever wasted my time watching - no wonder no one watches that sh1te anymore :grin:
bit pointless I suppose but he is entitled to his own view and it is good to get a bit of balance in the reviews :smiley:
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I agree with the Tiff.
As a track/racing car it's not very good.
However, as an everyday car that does everything it it outstanding.
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I wonder if Tiff did try disable the ESP. The GTi has a two stage ESP. Stage 1 disables the TCS and stage 2 delays the activation of the ESP which in VW's words allows more oversteer.
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After reading this thread I was expecting it to be far far worse a review than I just watched. Maybe as I dont own one im not getting as upset or as emotional as owners here but I could understand what he was trying to say. He wanted to explore the new chassis at its limits too see how good it really was but the electronics would not let him so he could not do this.
As a road car he said it was as quiet and civilised as any other golf which is prase. He did say he could not hear the engine or exhaust well he must have the computer set wrong as I thought the artifical noise was loud in sport.
Again he mensioned the ride not feeling GTI like on road again thats a computer settting. Old people and computers dont mix lol. That will teach him to say you need acc when it seems he cannot work it. :tongue:
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I have watched it I think he has a point that all these electric gizmos have taken the fun out of cars preventing you to go sideways on the track but aren't all manufacturers doing the same thing plus if you are going in a straight line and not wheel spinning you will go faster anyway it is called progress :smiley:
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Has anyone else tried to turn all the aids off in a review? I wonder if he did it right??
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For me,it's reassuring that the car will step in and apply the brakes etc when your in a situation like that.For us non racing drivers it's all the car one will need.I am a bit annoyed though that golf's are getting bigger,the mk6 is plenty big enough.Actually,the mk4 was plenty big enough!
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I've watched the review now...
I don't see what the problem is.
Tiff drove it, he was disappointed with it because it wasn't "sporty" enough in his opinion, he's entitled to that view.
Should Tiff's view affect your opinion of the car? No. For those that have them, has it changed your opinion of the car?
Clarkson doesn't like 911s does it bother me or make me think less of mine..? No
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I've watched the review now...
I don't see what the problem is.
Tiff drove it, he was disappointed with it because it wasn't "sporty" enough in his opinion, he's entitled to that view.
Should Tiff's view affect your opinion of the car? No. For those that have them, has it changed your opinion of the car?
Clarkson doesn't like 911s does it bother me or make me think less of mine..? No
Yes it had lol trying to buy an R now
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And on Fifth Gear tonight, they would all prefer the Octavia rather than the Golf. :grin:
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Never mind the Mk7, we all knew what Tiffany was going to say about that. What got me was Ray Partner's "concourse" Mk2. It picks up trophies left right and center, yet looks like this underneath.
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t264/dubber36/rustytash_zpsc7201786.jpg) (http://s162.photobucket.com/user/dubber36/media/rustytash_zpsc7201786.jpg.html)
I'm too ashamed to enter mine because it looks like that... at the moment.
Ha Ha I just saw this after downloading it and thought exactly the same!
I thought when they said this is what you can get for £1500 I thought "No way!" but after seeing under the wheel of it I'd say you could be getting robbed!