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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: NickNotts on 15 September 2013, 13:27
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I was horrified to find that when you choose the Advanced Telephone Prep you lose the MDI port in the front storage compartment, meaning I now have a problem with using my ipod in the car. Yes, I can stream bluetooth audio but you can not browse the phone for media etc so have to ensure that you are on the album or playlist when you get in the car.
I stupidly thought that the USB port in the compartment meant that I could plug the ipod in, but alas, no. Yes it charges it, but doesn't recognise the device at all and am unable to play from it.
So now my only option is SD card for media playing in the car?? Have I missed anything or has anyone else found a way around this?
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Wow, I've never heard of that before. Is this fact (I.e. do you have the car) or is this what someone told you.
Can't understand what the advanced phone prep has to do with the media offerings. Very strange.
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I have the car! Picked it up Friday... so fact. There is no MDI port, there is an aux in and a USB port in the front storage compartment now. As mine was the first car to have the prep, he didnt know why and is speaking to VW technical about it. Took us 10 minutes to find the climate screen function!!
Am a bit peeved about it to be honest. Really do not understand why they removed it. Why would a user with the phone prep not still want it?!? Its the most important part of the audio system for me!!
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I had no idea that plugging your phone in via USB means you can't change the music via the menu! What a ridiculous thing to miss!
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I have the advanced phone prep on my order and use my ipod via MDI always in my MK6.
None of the marketing material (AFAIK) or dealer mentioned the removal of MDI with advanced phone prep (only took it for climate screen).
If this is the case I will be kicking up a massive fuss come collection day!!!!!!
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EpicUsername, the USB is for charging only, when I plug my iphone5 into the front USB port I get nothing in the radio. Its not available as a source, so my only option is to bluetooth stream from the iphone. It doesnt get recognised as an audio device, like when using the MDI port on my old Scirocco.
peterdoherty - Absolutely... I was gobsmacked this was the case, as you said, none of the material anywhere says its in lieu of the MDI port or that you lose the port if chosen.
Am now pissing about with media on an SD card to get me something I can play in my fantastic new car!!
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And just checking... it only plays MP3s from SD cards?? As I have all my music in itunes format!! Will I have to convert everything to MP3??
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And just checking... it only plays MP3s from SD cards?? As I have all my music in itunes format!! Will I have to convert everything to MP3??
No, check one of the other threads - you do not have to convert to mp3.
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Thanks matchboy... the radio didn't like the exFAT format as suggested in that post. Reformated to FAT32 and plays fine, only down point now is I don't have artwork for the media as its in itunes format. Playing from SD card also is a bit bland, and going to have to do my own playlists now too.
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Thanks matchboy... the radio didn't like the exFAT format as suggested in that post. Reformated to FAT32 and plays fine, only down point now is I don't have artwork for the media as its in itunes format. Playing from SD card also is a bit bland, and going to have to do my own playlists now too.
You can get all the artwork off the pictures on amazon. It's a bit of a task but it is worth it!
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Are there any instructions on that then? As the track format is itunes...?
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Are there any instructions on that then? As the track format is itunes...?
There's a music thread somewhere - have a look in there, towards the end there's some good info from Craig - sorted me right out!
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Thanks matchboy... the radio didn't like the exFAT format as suggested in that post. Reformated to FAT32 and plays fine, only down point now is I don't have artwork for the media as its in itunes format. Playing from SD card also is a bit bland, and going to have to do my own playlists now too.
You can get all the artwork off the pictures on amazon. It's a bit of a task but it is worth it!
It's not much of a task if you use the program I suggested - it finds the artwork for you and embeds it in 2 steps if you're lucky enough to find artwork less than 400 x 400 on Amazon.
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I was horrified to find that when you choose the Advanced Telephone Prep you lose the MDI port in the front storage compartment, meaning I now have a problem with using my ipod in the car. Yes, I can stream bluetooth audio but you can not browse the phone for media etc so have to ensure that you are on the album or playlist when you get in the car.
I stupidly thought that the USB port in the compartment meant that I could plug the ipod in, but alas, no. Yes it charges it, but doesn't recognise the device at all and am unable to play from it.
So now my only option is SD card for media playing in the car?? Have I missed anything or has anyone else found a way around this?
That's a bummer. I have my car on order and have advance telephone prep only as I have to take it with the climate screen!!
When you do connect your iPhone via Bluetooth can you skip songs in the album or play list your in by using the buttons on the media system or the steering wheel or must you do it on the phone itself??
Also does the iPhone 5 work properly with the advance phone prep? I'm sure I had read previous posts that it wasn't fully compatible!!
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This is a disappointment, as I would have hoped that advanced would mean better than standard.
So all you get is the coupled phone antenna in the place where the USB charging socket is.
If this is a change from previous vehicles I would have a bit of a pop at the dealership.
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Ok, to clear this up. The advanced telephone prep gives you an induction plate in the centre arm rest, where you are expected to put your mobile phone in order for it to connect to the external aerial. There is no physical connection for the phone to the aerial, however there is a 5V USB port which is for charging ONLY. Manual states for the optimum connection the phone should be put inside the netted holder in the armrest and that no other metal objects should be put in there. Storage useful for nothing else then!
Secondly, as I have found out, in the centre storage locker under the radio, there is no longer an MDI port, all you get is an AUX jack and another USB port. This is connected to the radio, however looking at the manual is only for connecting up an external hard drive. ie similar to the SD Card slot, you can have your music stored on a USB key or external drive.
Yes, when you are using streamed audio via bluetooth the next/back controls on the steering wheel do work so does the track information, however you can not browse the source for music, all you can do is go back and forth with the tracks. Also, yes, the iphone 5 works absolutely fine with the radio over bluetooth. So making/receiving calls, checking address book and scrolling through missed/dialled calls all works fine.
I did notice that when I was driving with my mobile in the armrest the signal indicator on the radio was significantly better. However the real test will be tomorrow night when I am on the phone to the missus on the way home from work, and to see if I drop calls in all the normal places!! Here's hoping the advanced telephone prep was actually worth it. :whistle: :whistle: :whistle:
However, as stated before, I am shocked they have pulled the MDI port from the vehicle due to the telephone prep, and I will be making a complaint to both my sales rep and to VW regarding this.
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I know the connector was probably designed with just the phone in mind, but just out of curiosity has anyone tried an Ipod touch or the old Ipod Video with it? I'm assuming the OS is the same or similar. They might try and say well the connector isn't needed as your phone will always be in the arm rest, but if it works with the rest of the I-range then it's a moot point really.
Also I've just had a thought. If you now get an additional USB instead of the Apple connector, couldn't you just drop your music into the phones HDD and hook it up like any MP3 storage? I know it's a small consolation, but it's something?
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However, as stated before, I am shocked they have pulled the MDI port from the vehicle due to the telephone prep, and I will be making a complaint to both my sales rep and to VW regarding this.
Same here I'll be complaining if its the same case when mines arrives.
I could move all my music to a 128GB SD card (costly but I've nearly 100GB on the ipod) but don't want to (and why should I have to - it is stated in numerous places that MDI is standard throughout golf range and nowhere that its removed with adv phone prep AFAIK). I use the ipod outside of the car too therefore would need to keep 2 things up to date with my collection if this is the case.
What form of compensations should we be looking for this VWUK error?? Probably the marketing depts fault again!
Has anyone tried to hook their iphone/ipod up using a usb cable into the USB socket where the MDI port should be? (not the one in the armrest phone area) to see if it works?
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Yes I have peterdoherty... and you get nothing. USB, as a source, is greyed out and not selectable. So it completely ignores it, that's with both an iphone 5 using the USB lightning cable and an ipod nano USB 25pin connector. Just not visible. Major pants!!
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However, as stated before, I am shocked they have pulled the MDI port from the vehicle due to the telephone prep, and I will be making a complaint to both my sales rep and to VW regarding this.
Same here I'll be complaining if its the same case when mines arrives.
I could move all my music to a 128GB SD card (costly but I've nearly 100GB on the ipod) but don't want to (and why should I have to - it is stated in numerous places that MDI is standard throughout golf range and nowhere that its removed with adv phone prep AFAIK). I use the ipod outside of the car too therefore would need to keep 2 things up to date with my collection if this is the case.
What form of compensations should we be looking for this VWUK error?? Probably the marketing depts fault again!
Has anyone tried to hook their iphone/ipod up using a usb cable into the USB socket where the MDI port should be? (not the one in the armrest phone area) to see if it works?
Your probably best contacting your dealer before hand because to ask the question. If Nick doesn't have it then no one who specs the phone prep is going to have it either
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Ok, to clear this up. The advanced telephone prep gives you an induction plate in the centre arm rest, where you are expected to put your mobile phone in order for it to connect to the external aerial. There is no physical connection for the phone to the aerial, however there is a 5V USB port which is for charging ONLY. Manual states for the optimum connection the phone should be put inside the netted holder in the armrest and that no other metal objects should be put in there. Storage useful for nothing else then!
Secondly, as I have found out, in the centre storage locker under the radio, there is no longer an MDI port, all you get is an AUX jack and another USB port. This is connected to the radio, however looking at the manual is only for connecting up an external hard drive. ie similar to the SD Card slot, you can have your music stored on a USB key or external drive.
Yes, when you are using streamed audio via bluetooth the next/back controls on the steering wheel do work so does the track information, however you can not browse the source for music, all you can do is go back and forth with the tracks. Also, yes, the iphone 5 works absolutely fine with the radio over bluetooth. So making/receiving calls, checking address book and scrolling through missed/dialled calls all works fine.
I did notice that when I was driving with my mobile in the armrest the signal indicator on the radio was significantly better. However the real test will be tomorrow night when I am on the phone to the missus on the way home from work, and to see if I drop calls in all the normal places!! Here's hoping the advanced telephone prep was actually worth it. :whistle: :whistle: :whistle:
However, as stated before, I am shocked they have pulled the MDI port from the vehicle due to the telephone prep, and I will be making a complaint to both my sales rep and to VW regarding this.
Cheers for the info Nick. Hopefully it will boost the signal and not be a total waste of money and a con! Have you had a chance to try the climate screen yet? Probably not cold enough down there. I'm at my parents in the highlands tonight and its to be -2 so I cheated and shoved the car in the garage!
Forgot to ask, is the sound quality just the same as normal even though its over Bluetooth?
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Thanks NickNotts for the first post. Wish I'd known about the missing MDI port earlier - as I've ordered Advance Tele Prep and Heated Screen. The car will be used mainly around the Scottish Highlands and Islands. So my logic was Advance Tele Prep as phone signal crap outside any towns, heated screen as it gets a tad chilly in winter. However if given a choice, I'd take MDI port over Advance Tele Prep. It's possibly too late to change my order now, and perhaps Bluetooth connectivity will suffice, but I wish I'd been informed earlier about the missing MDI port.
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In Germanhy the MDI port is a separate option rather than being standard like it is here. It can be specified with any of the radios or sat navs and the advanced phone prep.
So I think the OP's car might be a mis-build, with this option accidentally left off. It will be interesting to hear what VW UK have to say about it.
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Also, shouldn't be a problem to retro fit, as all the connectors into the back of the main unit in the glovebox are identical. You just need the Aux/USB unit to be swapped out for the MDI unit.
Dealer should be able to do that quite easily, assuming it was a mid-build.
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Morning guys, sorry been away all week. OK, official answer from my dealer is that the MDI was removed due to the telephone prep but said the ipod by USB should still work, and I was then asked to contact VW direct.
So I did, and got through to the MD's office as he was covering for customer services. Very nice chap who fully understood my complaint and agreed the brochure was lacking in information over the extra and that it doesn't state the MDI is removed.
He himself is a mk7 driver, though not GTI, and says he couldn't live without his ipod in the car either. So he was personally going to find out about this one and get back to me. He's due to speak to the factory today to get the low down and confirm whether it can be retro fitted or not. He's also confirming the connectivity options for the front USB port and what can be used in it. So watch this space!
On another note, the prep actually works! Where I normally lose a call 3-4 times on the way home in the same places, I didn't lose it once. The call stayed connected for the whole 20 miles and on one night I even took a detour out to Sherwood Forest where I have before had no coverage for a whole 5 mins and it stayed connected. So it works, and I have to say I think it is worth it. But that's my opinion, and I know others will think differently. :whistle: :whistle:
Anyway, I will update as soon as I hear back from VW HO.
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Thanks for the update. Ordered the phone prep myself and currently use a iPod for music so will be watching this one closely.
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Hi Nick, very useful info, have you had any update from your VW contact yet? My dealer is telling me that the MDI socket is available with any permutation in Europe but he can't get an answer as to why its left off in the UK. Thanks
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Only update I have is that David phoned on Tuesday to apologise for the delay in getting information from the factory. He confirmed that it definitely was removed due to the prep, but no news as to the reason and retrofitting.
So will keep you posted when I do hear. Had the car two weeks almost now, so getting a bit impatient.
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I suspect this is a well known issue within VW in the UK.
I called my dealer to mention this to them as I have spec'd the advanced phone prep...
Firstly, they said that they the MDI port is standard on Golf but they would check.
The following day they confirmed that the MDI port is deleted with advanced phone prep and offered me a £250 goodwill gesture... I hadn't complained, at that stage, because I will still be able to stream music over bluetooth... so on the face of it there was no need to offer me any money they didn't need to...
So, I suspect that VW UK have made some sort of a c0ck-up by not stating that choosing this option deletes the MDI port... they tell the dealer offer a goodwill gesture if it is queried...
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Nick, been browsing over at the German Forum (motor-talk.de), and there is a discussion going that VW have quietly slipped in a new "multimedia AUX-IN and USB interface for iPod / iPhone". Using this new socket (which has a chip inside it), it enables the USB port to have a standard Ipod cable plugged in and get full functionality like with a MDI socket.
Don't know if it's available here yet, but might be worth enquiring. The guys over on the German forums are citing it being a €70 option.
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Enquired about this to my lease company and asked them to contact VW. Response is below. Looks like the MDI port has moved location but am still waiting official confirmation from VW HQ :whistle:
"Our purchasing team has spoken to the supplying dealer and they have advised that they have emailed VW for clarification and that Having had a look at the description of the options there is no where that it says the car will lose MDI with the added option of Advanced Phone Prep.The MDI connection is forward of the gearshift and the USB socket for phone charging is in the Front centre armrest.
I will chase them up again in the next couple of days if not heard anything back from them"
Andy
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Have you checked if the MDI port is in the glovebox? On Seat Leons (very similar, if not identical, kit to the Golf) their MDI port is in the glovebox next to the cd player. Worth a look surely.
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Hey, did any of you guys manage to find out if the MDI could be retrofitted or if there was indeed a new cable that could connect the USB port to an iPhone/iPod or if this new chip has been fitted?
Cheers
Neil
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According to ETKA, there is a new USB Socket module (the one that goes in front of the gear stick), that is USB and Ipod Compatible:
5G0 035 222 D (the "D" at the end is the important bit)- ETKA Description - Electronic Interface for External Use - AUX In, USB (ipod Compatible). This seems to be around the £20 mark ish.
It would seem that this would need to be used with a new connection cable (between the USB Module and the Media unit in the glove box) 5G0 971 650 AA (as this one superseded the old cable on 1st August 2013, again the "AA" at the end is important). These seem to be around the £35-£40 mark.
Of course I've never tried these, just reporting what ETKA says.
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According to ETKA, there is a new USB Socket module (the one that goes in front of the gear stick), that is USB and Ipod Compatible:
5G0 035 222 D (the "D" at the end is the important bit)- ETKA Description - Electronic Interface for External Use - AUX In, USB (ipod Compatible). This seems to be around the £20 mark ish.
It would seem that this would need to be used with a new connection cable (between the USB Module and the Media unit in the glove box) 5G0 971 650 AA (as this one superseded the old cable on 1st August 2013, again the "AA" at the end is important). These seem to be around the £35-£40 mark.
Of course I've never tried these, just reporting what ETKA says.
Anybody know if BW45 cars will get this new USB / iPod interface?
I ordered the Advanced Phone Kit but really wanted iPod connectivity too for iPhone music.
I think Volkswagen should have just made the 5v USB port in the arm rest iPod compatible, that way you have the advanced phone, charging and iPod function all in one location.
How on earth can I use iPod/MDI if the phone has to be in the armrest to make use of the advanced phone kit. :huh:
Surely cars out of the factory to the UK should have this addressed?
Anybody else had any positive news regarding MDI/iPod on UK cars with Advanced Phone Kit? :sad:
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According to ETKA, there is a new USB Socket module (the one that goes in front of the gear stick), that is USB and Ipod Compatible:
5G0 035 222 D (the "D" at the end is the important bit)- ETKA Description - Electronic Interface for External Use - AUX In, USB (ipod Compatible). This seems to be around the £20 mark ish.
It would seem that this would need to be used with a new connection cable (between the USB Module and the Media unit in the glove box) 5G0 971 650 AA (as this one superseded the old cable on 1st August 2013, again the "AA" at the end is important). These seem to be around the £35-£40 mark.
Of course I've never tried these, just reporting what ETKA says.
Anybody know if BW45 cars will get this new USB / iPod interface?
I ordered the Advanced Phone Kit but really wanted iPod connectivity too for iPhone music.
I think Volkswagen should have just made the 5v USB port in the arm rest iPod compatible, that way you have the advanced phone, charging and iPod function all in one location.
How on earth can I use iPod/MDI if the phone has to be in the armrest to make use of the advanced phone kit. :huh:
Surely cars out of the factory to the UK should have this addressed?
Anybody else had any positive news regarding MDI/iPod on UK cars with Advanced Phone Kit? :sad:
Got the advanced prep. in my car, so no MDI, :sad: not best impressed. Agree not well thought out by VW.
Asked my dealer to get me the module and lead mentioned above. Both currently on back order with VW UK.
Will post up if they arrive and work ok.
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According to ETKA, there is a new USB Socket module (the one that goes in front of the gear stick), that is USB and Ipod Compatible:
5G0 035 222 D (the "D" at the end is the important bit)- ETKA Description - Electronic Interface for External Use - AUX In, USB (ipod Compatible). This seems to be around the £20 mark ish.
It would seem that this would need to be used with a new connection cable (between the USB Module and the Media unit in the glove box) 5G0 971 650 AA (as this one superseded the old cable on 1st August 2013, again the "AA" at the end is important). These seem to be around the £35-£40 mark.
Of course I've never tried these, just reporting what ETKA says.
Anybody know if BW45 cars will get this new USB / iPod interface?
I ordered the Advanced Phone Kit but really wanted iPod connectivity too for iPhone music.
I think Volkswagen should have just made the 5v USB port in the arm rest iPod compatible, that way you have the advanced phone, charging and iPod function all in one location.
How on earth can I use iPod/MDI if the phone has to be in the armrest to make use of the advanced phone kit. :huh:
Surely cars out of the factory to the UK should have this addressed?
Anybody else had any positive news regarding MDI/iPod on UK cars with Advanced Phone Kit? :sad:
Got the advanced prep. in my car, so no MDI, :sad: not best impressed. Agree not well thought out by VW.
Asked my dealer to get me the module and lead mentioned above. Both currently on back order with VW UK.
Will post up if they arrive and work ok.
Sorry to hear this, is the dealer going to charge & fit it etc.
I might need to follow the same route if VWUK have not changed the UK spec standards at the factory.
I'm hoping cars after BW45 have the new USB/iPod interface fitted.
Let us know the outcome cheers.
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So what's the deal with this, the audio is still same quality through Bluetooth from your mobile, just you can't change albums or playlists through the media system and have to do it on your phone? I have specced Dynaudio, will it be sh!t sound quality after wasting money on upgrading the speakers?
Does the iPhone need to be plugged in the dock to use the car ariel or does it just do this through Bluetooth? If plugged in does it charge?
Does the whole red or blue cable make any difference to anything?
I'm totally lost and only have it as I ordered a climate screen. Technology is not my forte!
Cheers
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You need the red cable to display album art, Bluetooth won't do this.
It charges fine with red or blue cable, if you use Bluetooth for audio you won't get album art and you have very limited functionality in track choice.
Personally now that the iPhone is sorted with the red cable I'm happy.
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Guess we need to wait for BW45 cars to arrive to see if VWUK has resolved the missing MDI module on cars ordered with Advanced Telephone Prep.
BW45 cars should come with iPhone5 cables.
Not sure if they come with the newer USB/iPod interfaces.
Does somebody have any contacts in Germany who can find out if BW45 cars have the newer USB/iPad interface as standard?
Otherwise it will have to be retro-fitted :( shambles.....
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You need the red cable to display album art, Bluetooth won't do this.
It charges fine with red or blue cable, if you use Bluetooth for audio you won't get album art and you have very limited functionality in track choice.
Personally now that the iPhone is sorted with the red cable I'm happy.
Are these red cables readily available? I have no album art with my iphone connected to mdi: assume this will be sorted with the magic cable de rouge?
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You need the red cable to display album art, Bluetooth won't do this.
It charges fine with red or blue cable, if you use Bluetooth for audio you won't get album art and you have very limited functionality in track choice.
Personally now that the iPhone is sorted with the red cable I'm happy.
Are these red cables readily available? I have no album art with my iphone connected to mdi: assume this will be sorted with the magic cable de rouge?
Here you got mate, thanks to another member for posting the link in a different thread.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Volkswagen-Golf-Mark-Collar-000051446M/dp/B00CDMZLZC/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=2HGRWYA7BVSOL&coliid=I2BXA130D3H4HF (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Volkswagen-Golf-Mark-Collar-000051446M/dp/B00CDMZLZC/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=2HGRWYA7BVSOL&coliid=I2BXA130D3H4HF)
I wont buy one yet as I am probably not getting the MDI if VWUK haven't resolved the config mess-up :(
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Thanks 2013gti. Noticed it had a £4 delivery charge from the amazon seller, so had a quick search and found it here too, but for free delivery.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=261297391723
Just ordered!
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Thanks 2013gti. Noticed it had a £4 delivery charge from the amazon seller, so had a quick search and found it here too, but for free delivery.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=261297391723
Just ordered!
Cheers :wink: I need to find out if my car will have the revised USB / iPod interface or if VWUK have added MDI when configured with Advanced Phone Kit. :huh:
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Having this issue myself... Got through to VWUK via dealer (helpful as ever) - aware of the problem - particularly annoying as I specd the wonderful dynaudio... anyway story seems to be as follows: Wolfsburg has developed a test module for retrofitting for those of us caught with the lack of an MDI port - it's being sent now for testing on a vehicle at VWUK HQ on Friday and I'm to hear back how this went by next Wednesday... if it works out a retrofit can hopefully be arranged. Fingers crossed and hope this sheds some light for those of you in my situation.
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Having this issue myself... Got through to VWUK via dealer (helpful as ever) - aware of the problem - particularly annoying as I specd the wonderful dynaudio... anyway story seems to be as follows: Wolfsburg has developed a test module for retrofitting for those of us caught with the lack of an MDI port - it's being sent now for testing on a vehicle at VWUK HQ on Friday and I'm to hear back how this went by next Wednesday... if it works out a retrofit can hopefully be arranged. Fingers crossed and hope this sheds some light for those of you in my situation.
cheers for the update :smiley: hopefully any newly ordered cars will come with either MDI or the new USB / iPod interface fitted.
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Hi
Have you got a case number for this testing of a retrospective fitting of the MDI as when I phone VW customer services all I get is it can't be done. Very frustrating to have specced Dynaudio, Discovery Pro and advanced telephone and then be told that there is no easy way to play the music in the car.
Seems to me there is a lack of joined up thinking at VW.
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Does anybody if VW UK have ensured all future cars will come with MDI / iPod interface?
Anybody have a name who I can speak to at head office? :wink:
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Does anybody if VW UK have ensured all future cars will come with MDI / iPod interface?
Anybody have a name who I can speak to at head office? :wink:
Any more news on this?
Have VW UK done anything about future cars ordered with Adv phone kit?
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I got a call by way of update the other day from VW customer services - still no word on when the retrofit will be available but the good news for those of you waiting on your car delivery is that the problem has been sorted for cars still to be built - not much use to those of us stuck with all this tech and no mdi port...
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Cheers its, mines getting built this week so fingers crossed mine will have an MDI too. Keep us posted with the retrofit as I know there's a few on here with this problem. And knowing VW mine may still arrive with no MDI.
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My dealer has lodged the issue with VW cust services and 'they are aware of the issue' - waiting to hear back in the next few weeks what the resolution will be before taking it up on their twitter/FB page
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Thanks for the update, this is good news for me :cool: hope that the retro-fit units get fitted to existing cars.
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Just called VW customer services, they have confirmed that my car is coming with the iPhone interface :laugh: :cool: :whistle: :drool: :smug:
Woooohoooo well chuffed....
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Has anyone had any updates on the situation, taken a delivery of a car with advanced tele prep and an MDI port or been offered an alternative solution?
I am off to collect my car tomorrow and the dealer knows nothing about the problem or any way of resolving it.
Very disappointing.
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Mine is BW 44 but was built late in BW 45. Arrives at the dealer this weekend hopefully so can have a look then to see if it's updated spec or not.
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Mine is BW 44 but was built late in BW 45. Arrives at the dealer this weekend hopefully so can have a look then to see if it's updated spec or not.
Could you also check if you can access the music when connected to the USB in the Advanced Telephone Kit? :smiley:
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I spoke to VW UK last week and they said all cars being built from last week will have the MDI cable, my car was delivered on Sat with no cable so mentioned to dealer, he had no idea so checked his VW UK site, no official notice to dealers about the issue yet but VW UK did assure me they were going to do something, will just have to keep on their case!
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Hey guys... sorry for the delay...
Ok, still dealing with UK Execs office. They have a same spec GTI, and have ordered a new wiring loom and the MDI kit, which arrived tuesday this week. They are planning to take the car to bits to see if they can retro fit the port. Should know the results soon.
I was told that if they could, I'd be offered a retro fit AND good will gesture. However if they couldn't they would offer to order me a new car!! Which I must say I was flabberghasted with! I was expecting just a goodwill gesture. But they said their GTI was the jewel in their crown and wants every customer to be happy, and if I wasnt without the MDI they'd replace my car.
So not sure what I want the out come to be! lol... another new car in 3-6 months (depending on current build time) would be nice, but I do love my car so just to get a working MDI port would be awesome!
Will keep you posted....
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Hey guys... sorry for the delay...
Ok, still dealing with UK Execs office. They have a same spec GTI, and have ordered a new wiring loom and the MDI kit, which arrived tuesday this week. They are planning to take the car to bits to see if they can retro fit the port. Should know the results soon.
I was told that if they could, I'd be offered a retro fit AND good will gesture. However if they couldn't they would offer to order me a new car!! Which I must say I was flabberghasted with! I was expecting just a goodwill gesture. But they said their GTI was the jewel in their crown and wants every customer to be happy, and if I wasnt without the MDI they'd replace my car.
So not sure what I want the out come to be! lol... another new car in 3-6 months (depending on current build time) would be nice, but I do love my car so just to get a working MDI port would be awesome!
Will keep you posted....
Wow if they were to give you a new build in 6 months time thats like a few thousand in compensation!
I doubt however they would offer this en-mass - even if it only affects less than 50 customers (figure pulled from the air) that would cost a LOT!
I wouldnt want my local VW dealer taking my car to pieces to install a new wiring loom - god know what squeaks, rattles and other issues this may cause! If I were you and they suggest this I would push for the new car (and keep your own until handover).
I may have to complain to the VW Exec office in order to 'register' the issue with them and not just leave it in my dealers hands. Got a number for them?
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I don't think the retro-fit is going to be too hard to fit or cause rattles.
They will replace the cable from the back of the CD/SD unit in the glove box which runs to the central console door where the MDI unit sits.
Two parts / 30 min job approx :smiley:
I doubt they won't be able to retro fit it though, but the notion of a new car and getting to use the current one is epic :grin:
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ey guys... sorry for the delay...
Ok, still dealing with UK Execs office. They have a same spec GTI, and have ordered a new wiring loom and the MDI kit, which arrived tuesday this week. They are planning to take the car to bits to see if they can retro fit the port. Should know the results soon.
I was told that if they could, I'd be offered a retro fit AND good will gesture. However if they couldn't they would offer to order me a new car!! Which I must say I was flabberghasted with! I was expecting just a goodwill gesture. But they said their GTI was the jewel in their crown and wants every customer to be happy, and if I wasnt without the MDI they'd replace my car.
So not sure what I want the out come to be! lol... another new car in 3-6 months (depending on current build time) would be nice, but I do love my car so just to get a working MDI port would be awesome!
Will keep you posted....
Please can you let me know your case number is as my contact at VW doesn't believe me when I tell him its being worked on. I have to say its soul destroying to have a car with a major issue that I haven't even picked up yet. VW should be ashamed and embarrassed by this issue and doing everything to help their customers.
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Kufatec are now doing a retrofit kit for mdi:
http://www.kufatec.de/shop/de/volkswagen/golf/golf-7-5q/multimediabuchse-media-in-vw-golf-7
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I think Volkswagen definately missed a trick here with the Adv phone kit.
They should have made cars which have been specified with Adv phone kit to have its MDI installed under the armrest, that way you can use both music and adv phone kit functions at the sametime.
So as it currently stands, if I want to make use of the adv phone kit I wont be able to plug it into the MDI.
The MDI is located at the front under the A/C controls :rolleyes: :angry: :sick:
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Ok just had a look at my BW 44 car that was actually built in BW 45 and can confirm it was built to build week 44 spec so there is no MDI!!
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Hey guys... sorry for the delay...
Ok, still dealing with UK Execs office. They have a same spec GTI, and have ordered a new wiring loom and the MDI kit, which arrived tuesday this week. They are planning to take the car to bits to see if they can retro fit the port. Should know the results soon.
I was told that if they could, I'd be offered a retro fit AND good will gesture. However if they couldn't they would offer to order me a new car!! Which I must say I was flabberghasted with! I was expecting just a goodwill gesture. But they said their GTI was the jewel in their crown and wants every customer to be happy, and if I wasnt without the MDI they'd replace my car.
So not sure what I want the out come to be! lol... another new car in 3-6 months (depending on current build time) would be nice, but I do love my car so just to get a working MDI port would be awesome!
Will keep you posted....
Hey Nick
Did you get an update from VW on this retrofit?
cheers
Neil
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According to ETKA, there is a new USB Socket module (the one that goes in front of the gear stick), that is USB and Ipod Compatible:
5G0 035 222 D (the "D" at the end is the important bit)- ETKA Description - Electronic Interface for External Use - AUX In, USB (ipod Compatible). This seems to be around the £20 mark ish.
It would seem that this would need to be used with a new connection cable (between the USB Module and the Media unit in the glove box) 5G0 971 650 AA (as this one superseded the old cable on 1st August 2013, again the "AA" at the end is important). These seem to be around the £35-£40 mark.
Of course I've never tried these, just reporting what ETKA says.
Anybody know if BW45 cars will get this new USB / iPod interface?
I ordered the Advanced Phone Kit but really wanted iPod connectivity too for iPhone music.
I think Volkswagen should have just made the 5v USB port in the arm rest iPod compatible, that way you have the advanced phone, charging and iPod function all in one location.
How on earth can I use iPod/MDI if the phone has to be in the armrest to make use of the advanced phone kit. :huh:
Surely cars out of the factory to the UK should have this addressed?
Anybody else had any positive news regarding MDI/iPod on UK cars with Advanced Phone Kit? :sad:
Got the advanced prep. in my car, so no MDI, :sad: not best impressed. Agree not well thought out by VW.
Asked my dealer to get me the module and lead mentioned above. Both currently on back order with VW UK.
Will post up if they arrive and work ok.
Hi
Did you ever get these parts fitted and did they work at all?
I have just been informed by VW that they can't retrofit a MDI socket in to the car and basically I'm stuffed. The day before my car went in to production, after a 6 month wait I was offered the option of cancelling my order and waiting a further 6 months for a new order. Because I had already sold my car by this stage I had no choice but to go ahead and presume they would resolve the problem.
If the new USB socket does provide full control of an ipod that would resolve the problem.
Thanks
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I think I found why MDI was dropped from cars with advanced phone.
There are 2 MDI option codes:
UF8: MDI
UI7: MDI for cars with PTS (PTS is advanced phone)
So UF8 is not compatible with advanced phone for some reason so was dropped and UI7 was not specced in its place.
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According to ETKA, there is a new USB Socket module (the one that goes in front of the gear stick), that is USB and Ipod Compatible:
5G0 035 222 D (the "D" at the end is the important bit)- ETKA Description - Electronic Interface for External Use - AUX In, USB (ipod Compatible). This seems to be around the £20 mark ish.
It would seem that this would need to be used with a new connection cable (between the USB Module and the Media unit in the glove box) 5G0 971 650 AA (as this one superseded the old cable on 1st August 2013, again the "AA" at the end is important). These seem to be around the £35-£40 mark.
Of course I've never tried these, just reporting what ETKA says.
Anybody know if BW45 cars will get this new USB / iPod interface?
I ordered the Advanced Phone Kit but really wanted iPod connectivity too for iPhone music.
I think Volkswagen should have just made the 5v USB port in the arm rest iPod compatible, that way you have the advanced phone, charging and iPod function all in one location.
How on earth can I use iPod/MDI if the phone has to be in the armrest to make use of the advanced phone kit. :huh:
Surely cars out of the factory to the UK should have this addressed?
Anybody else had any positive news regarding MDI/iPod on UK cars with Advanced Phone Kit? :sad:
Got the advanced prep. in my car, so no MDI, :sad: not best impressed. Agree not well thought out by VW.
Asked my dealer to get me the module and lead mentioned above. Both currently on back order with VW UK.
Will post up if they arrive and work ok.
Hi
Did you ever get these parts fitted and did they work at all?
I have just been informed by VW that they can't retrofit a MDI socket in to the car and basically I'm stuffed. The day before my car went in to production, after a 6 month wait I was offered the option of cancelling my order and waiting a further 6 months for a new order. Because I had already sold my car by this stage I had no choice but to go ahead and presume they would resolve the problem.
If the new USB socket does provide full control of an ipod that would resolve the problem.
Thanks
Still no word on these parts from my dealer, so can't tell you if they work. :sad:
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I think I found why MDI was dropped from cars with advanced phone.
There are 2 MDI option codes:
UF8: MDI
UI7: MDI for cars with PTS (PTS is advanced phone)
So UF8 is not compatible with advanced phone for some reason so was dropped and UI7 was not specced in its place.
Presumably the cock up is by VW marketing dept in UK and since there aren't many cars involved is the reason they are choosing to do nothing about it. Useless and pathetic customer service.
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I think I found why MDI was dropped from cars with advanced phone.
There are 2 MDI option codes:
UF8: MDI
UI7: MDI for cars with PTS (PTS is advanced phone)
So UF8 is not compatible with advanced phone for some reason so was dropped and UI7 was not specced in its place.
Presumably the cock up is by VW marketing dept in UK and since there aren't many cars involved is the reason they are choosing to do nothing about it. Useless and pathetic customer service.
when I spoke to VW CS they told me a retro fit was in the works for the cars that came without MDI.
Worst case it's about £90 in parts, surely local dealerships can fit it. :huh:
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I think I found why MDI was dropped from cars with advanced phone.
There are 2 MDI option codes:
UF8: MDI
UI7: MDI for cars with PTS (PTS is advanced phone)
So UF8 is not compatible with advanced phone for some reason so was dropped and UI7 was not specced in its place.
Presumably the cock up is by VW marketing dept in UK and since there aren't many cars involved is the reason they are choosing to do nothing about it. Useless and pathetic customer service.
when I spoke to VW CS they told me a retro fit was in the works for the cars that came without MDI.
Worst case it's about £90 in parts, surely local dealerships can fit it. :huh:
I had a phone call yesterday from VW customer service confirming that UK technical have been unable to fit an MDI socket and they are not working on any other alternative solution!! Because they told me the night before my car started to be built and I could have cancelled it they will do nothing more for me!!
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This is bad. :angry:
Your only option is to reject the car and have your dealership re-order.
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I think I found why MDI was dropped from cars with advanced phone.
There are 2 MDI option codes:
UF8: MDI
UI7: MDI for cars with PTS (PTS is advanced phone)
So UF8 is not compatible with advanced phone for some reason so was dropped and UI7 was not specced in its place.
Presumably the cock up is by VW marketing dept in UK and since there aren't many cars involved is the reason they are choosing to do nothing about it. Useless and pathetic customer service.
when I spoke to VW CS they told me a retro fit was in the works for the cars that came without MDI.
Worst case it's about £90 in parts, surely local dealerships can fit it. :huh:
I had a phone call yesterday from VW customer service confirming that UK technical have been unable to fit an MDI socket and they are not working on any other alternative solution!! Because they told me the night before my car started to be built and I could have cancelled it they will do nothing more for me!!
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the night before your car was built you believed VW would have a retrofit solution so you were mis-informed at the time. I think you have every right to reject the car.
I got my info from the Italian price list if you want to have a look for yourself or use as ammo against VW UK:
http://it.volkswagen.com/content/medialib/vwd4/it/listini/listino_prezzi/golf-7-gti/_jcr_content/renditions/rendition.file/listino-prezzi-volkswagen-nuova-golfgtd-gti.pdf
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Yep I have just finished speaking to VW UK and they confirmed no plans to do a retro fit or any standard compensation, did offer to reimburse me the price of the telephone prep which I had to have due to the heated windscreen which then caused me to lose the MDI lead. I said what about the price of the sat nav pro that I ordered to use with my phone via the lead ! Told him to read this section on this site, waiting for them to get back to me. Anyone else got any bright ideas 'cos it looks like VW are going to just say tough, makes me :sick:
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Guys, new to the forum and have appreciated the info shared on this topic. My car is affected. Was told on Wed. there would be no retrofit or fix by VW and discussion moved on to comp. After discussing terms I left it with them.
Got a call today expecting an offer of financial compensation. I was surprised to learn they believe they have a fix involving a special cable to connect your iPhone to the existing USB socket.
Apparently it's awaiting factory approval so no more info was available. I was told to expect a definitive response no later than a week today. Will let you know what happens. For me, this would be the best outcome. I'd rather have the functionality I paid for than live without it for as long as I own the car. Fingers crossed this finally gets solved.
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Its a real shame Volkswagen didn't fit the MDI or this new USB socket/cable in the central armrest when specifying the Advanced Phone Kit.... as it currently stands you are unable to use the MDI collection or the Advanced Phone Kit as the same time. :rolleyes: :whistle:
I am going to see if I can route a iPod extension cable from the MDI into the armrest compartment to get around this silly mistake by Volkswagen.
Also my BW46 car did NOT come with a iPhone5 cable from factory...... :embarrassed:
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Guys, new to the forum and have appreciated the info shared on this topic. My car is affected. Was told on Wed. there would be no retrofit or fix by VW and discussion moved on to comp. After discussing terms I left it with them.
Got a call today expecting an offer of financial compensation. I was surprised to learn they believe they have a fix involving a special cable to connect your iPhone to the existing USB socket.
Apparently it's awaiting factory approval so no more info was available. I was told to expect a definitive response no later than a week today. Will let you know what happens. For me, this would be the best outcome. I'd rather have the functionality I paid for than live without it for as long as I own the car. Fingers crossed this finally gets solved.
Hi deZmo
Please can you let me know your case number so I can chase up VW, I last spoke to them on Wednesday and they told me there would be no solution and that I already had the latest USB socket. It would be great if they could sort it. Thanks.
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Hi folks,
I wouldnt worry to much about not having MDI as you can only use either the Advanced Phone Kit or MDI but not both at the same time. :cry:
Just push for some compensation for not having the MDI fitted as per all the marketing materials and enjoy the cars.
I ended up loading a 32GB SD card up eventhough I have a MDI fitted :rolleyes:
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Hiya Guys, tend to agree about hassle of phone connection or MDI but I find my phone works ok even if not in the correct place in central storage. More hassle to have to transfer songs to my SD card every time I buy some new music - which is pretty much daily :grin:
Happy Hippo, not got a note of my case #. I'm talking to Brian in customer services using my reg #. Will update the thread as soon as I hear more. Should be Friday if they keep their promise.
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Hi folks,
I wouldnt worry to much about not having MDI as you can only use either the Advanced Phone Kit or MDI but not both at the same time. :cry:
Just push for some compensation for not having the MDI fitted as per all the marketing materials and enjoy the cars.
I ended up loading a 32GB SD card up eventhough I have a MDI fitted :rolleyes:
Only if you choose to keep your music on your phone. I prefer to use an ipod for my music and a good Android phone with the phone kit.
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After sensible discussion I have reached a very satisfactory conclusion to my situation here. Dealer and customer services alike have done a good job.
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Hi,
Do you know if my week 48 car with advanced phone connection will have an MDI?
Thanks
Ian
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Hi,
Do you know if my week 48 car with advanced phone connection will have an MDI?
Thanks
Ian
Hi Ian, yes your car should have MDI with Adv Phone Kit... mine is BW46 and had it.
Hopefully yours will also come with the iPhone5 MDI cable.... :laugh:
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After sensible discussion I have reached a very satisfactory conclusion to my situation here. Dealer and customer services alike have done a good job.
Not sure if you would like to share how you got on ? I'm waiting for customer services to get back to me about this and would be interested to know what their thinking was on this.
( did try a PM but I think because you've got less than 10 posts I could not send one, happy to discuss by email if you prefer)
If you'd rather not discuss further I understand but thought I'd ask.
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If you scroll back I am sure somebody got £250 refund as a goodwill from their dealership for the missing MDI. :cool:
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Ginnes
V happy to discuss via email for common sense reasons , how do we do this ? Not v adept at forum contribution but have been a forum reader for ages. Let me know how I can get in touch or how you can pm me by all means
Cheers
I
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If you scroll back I am sure somebody got £250 refund as a goodwill from their dealership for the missing MDI. :cool:
That was me... Didn't even complain, just asked the question of my dealer... they answered that there will be no MDI with Advanced Telephone Prep and an offer of £250 in compensation (from the goodwill catalogue)...
Now wouldn't it be ironic if my BW45 car arrives tomorrow with MDI and the telephone prep? :grin:
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I understand only 400 cars (of which mine one) affected by lack of MDI port. Being recognised as manufacturing error. VW are being very pragmatic about resolution.
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If you scroll back I am sure somebody got £250 refund as a goodwill from their dealership for the missing MDI. :cool:
That was me... Didn't even complain, just asked the question of my dealer... they answered that there will be no MDI with Advanced Telephone Prep and an offer of £250 in compensation (from the goodwill catalogue)...
Now wouldn't it be ironic if my BW45 car arrives tomorrow with MDI and the telephone prep? :grin:
You will probably get the MDI, the factory was quick to act once Volkswagen UK pulled finger out. So you might be £250 better off and have MDI too.
To be honest its pointless as you can't use both anyway. :embarrassed:
My BW46 car has both Adv Phone Kit and MDI :cool:
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I understand only 400 cars (of which mine one) affected by lack of MDI port. Being recognised as manufacturing error. VW are being very pragmatic about resolution.
Yes I agree, when I first spoke to Volkswagen UK, they told me there would be a retro-fit for existing customers and that all future cars would have MDI.
At the very least I think they should offer goodwill in place of no MDI if they have decided not to offer retro-fit solution.
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[/quote] Yes I agree, when I first spoke to Volkswagen UK, they told me there would be a retro-fit for existing customers and that all future cars would have MDI.
At the very least I think they should offer goodwill in place of no MDI if they have decided not to offer retro-fit solution.
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If you speak to them you'll find they are very prepared to listen to your views about what needs to be done to make it right. It has taken a few weeks but I'm glad they are now putting my situation right :smiley:
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I have sat nav pro with advanced tel prep and in the compartment infront of the gear stick I have a USB and mini jack socket, so here are my questions should that be an MDI socket and I choose which lead I need, is this now standard spec. Do I keep the USB and find another phone that will work with the USB input. VW keep asking me what I would like but not sure as I don't know if I'm better off with I phone 5 and MDI input socket- I guess this gives you the ability to play vids, album art work with track lists? Anyone with new issue cars can you let me know what VW is now putting in as standard. cheers
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I have sat nav pro with advanced tel prep and in the compartment infront of the gear stick I have a USB and mini jack socket, so here are my questions should that be an MDI socket and I choose which lead I need, is this now standard spec. Do I keep the USB and find another phone that will work with the USB input. VW keep asking me what I would like but not sure as I don't know if I'm better off with I phone 5 and MDI input socket- I guess this gives you the ability to play vids, album art work with track lists? Anyone with new issue cars can you let me know what VW is now putting in as standard. cheers
Strange, I would have thought your car should have come with a MDI socket, what BW is yours?
Mine is BW46.
I'm pretty annoyed why they couldn't put the MDI socket in the arm rest box next to the advanced phone kit. :cry:
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I have sat nav pro with advanced tel prep and in the compartment infront of the gear stick I have a USB and mini jack socket, so here are my questions should that be an MDI socket and I choose which lead I need, is this now standard spec. Do I keep the USB and find another phone that will work with the USB input. VW keep asking me what I would like but not sure as I don't know if I'm better off with I phone 5 and MDI input socket- I guess this gives you the ability to play vids, album art work with track lists? Anyone with new issue cars can you let me know what VW is now putting in as standard. cheers
Strange, I would have thought your car should have come with a MDI socket, what BW is yours?
Mine is BW46.
I'm pretty annoyed why they couldn't put the MDI socket in the arm rest box next to the advanced phone kit. :cry:
For me the advanced telephone prep does not give any improvement to my phone reception. But the theory is that only 1 piece of kit can go into the arm rest for it to work so the mdi socket is in a different location for people who use a separate ipod/mp3 player rather than their phone.
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Fair point regarding some people having seperate iPod and mobile phone devices.
I guess I will continue to use my SD card for now until I can figure out a alernative. :smiley:
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Not sure of bw but was put together first week of oct. tried to connect i phone via USB in front compartment but could not get it to work, when I selected media inputs the USB was not even highlighted which seems to mean it was not even recognising being connected, any thoughts?
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Not sure of bw but was put together first week of oct. tried to connect i phone via USB in front compartment but could not get it to work, when I selected media inputs the USB was not even highlighted which seems to mean it was not even recognising being connected, any thoughts?
Sorry to be the one to give you the bad news but looks like they have fitted the wrong interface :sad: the MDI interface should have been standard fit on all UK MK7 Golf's however Volkswagen messed up and got the UK RHD spec wrong when customers added Adv Phone Kit.
I would get onto your dealership for some form of compensation in lieu of not having the MDI connection.
Your only options are the following as present:-
a) load USB stick with music
b) load SD card with music
c) use bluetooth audio streaming
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yep using SD card and blue tooth but also talking to VW UK as they still have not given me a definite fob off so hoping I can get them to install an MDI socket in place of the USB! Just a little concerned that I cant get the USB to highlight on media menu when used with an apple cable from phone to USB, or do I need a VW specific USB?
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yep using SD card and blue tooth but also talking to VW UK as they still have not given me a definite fob off so hoping I can get them to install an MDI socket in place of the USB! Just a little concerned that I cant get the USB to highlight on media menu when used with an apple cable from phone to USB, or do I need a VW specific USB?
It won't have the iPod chips so only works with a USB stick or non-iPhone smartphone.
However VW have designed a USB interface that's supposed to be iPod compatible which needs a new socket unit and wiring loom which goes into the back of the glovebox SD/SD unit.
Some have already indicated that VW dealers have said they can't retro fit etc.
No real solution at present unless you or your dealership swaps it all out.
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I wonder if the only solution is under sales of goods act, ie not as advertised and get them to take the whole car back that might make them do something! I'm also wondering what everyone else is doing who has this prob. or are they not worried as it is not really a car performance issue just really annoying when you have just coughed up the best part of £33,000.
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I wonder if the only solution is under sales of goods act, ie not as advertised and get them to take the whole car back that might make them do something! I'm also wondering what everyone else is doing who has this prob. or are they not worried as it is not really a car performance issue just really annoying when you have just coughed up the best part of £33,000.
I'm taking delivery of my GTD tomorrow with the telephone prep, and I'm pretty much expecting the worse and have no iPod compatible MDI port. This may not be a performance issue for me, but an incredible oversight and one which is going to cause me grief to no end.
I wouldn't mind too much, as I know I can pair the bluetooth, but that doesn't give you any control over the standard 'pause/play/previous/next', you need to grab your phone and start browsing for music whenever road conditions allow. In addition to this, at least 80% of my library is coded to AAC which the VW system doesn't decode (to my knowledge), so that's SD card out of the window unless I re-encode my entire library. Not really practical.
At the end of the day I'll live with it (do we have a choice?!) and get over it, I'll be driving a new GTD for god sake. Still not good for the amount of money I'm parting with for the car, especially as it's got Dynaudio.
Then again, maybe it's Karma at play....only ordered on Saturday just gone and picking up tomorrow.. :whistle: Can't complain. Got to love folk who cancel orderders days/ weeks from delivery. :laugh:
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would not worry as I'm sure VW have a few weeks after my build week started putting MDI ports back in, let me know when you get yours if its in as that's a good admission of a cock up by VW!
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would not worry as I'm sure VW have a few weeks after my build week started putting MDI ports back in, let me know when you get yours if its in as that's a good admission of a cock up by VW!
Correct, mine came with MDI and it is a BW46 car. :smiley:
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would not worry as I'm sure VW have a few weeks after my build week started putting MDI ports back in, let me know when you get yours if its in as that's a good admission of a cock up by VW!
Correct, mine came with MDI and it is a BW46 car. :smiley:
:cry:
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I wouldn't mind too much, as I know I can pair the bluetooth, but that doesn't give you any control over the standard 'pause/play/previous/next', you need to grab your phone and start browsing for music whenever road conditions allow. In addition to this, at least 80% of my library is coded to AAC which the VW system doesn't decode (to my knowledge), so that's SD card out of the window unless I re-encode my entire library. Not really practical.
You can control the songs via bluetooth ie. back, next, pause. I'm unsure if you can select a playlist as well via the screen as I tend to put it on a playlist and leave it on there - but you can certainly use the basic functions.
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That's right, as I mentioned you can do the basic controls but anything over that you've got to head over to your phone. I'm too indecisive to play an entire playlist, I tend to switch between albums as the mood takes me :smiley:
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Just seen this in the Golf GTI/GTD price and spec list effective from 3/11/13.
(http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag145/jivemonkey2000/GTDBrochureExtract_zps6b92e968.jpg)
So they're supplying the lightning to 30pin adaptor now?! :shocked:
Edit:
Here's the pricelist link:
http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/assets/common/pdf/pricelists/golf-gti-vii-pricelist.pdf (http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/assets/common/pdf/pricelists/golf-gti-vii-pricelist.pdf)
Can't get to it directly via the website, but came across it when Googling "golf gtd vii numberplate". Go figure.
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That's quite interesting, as I have an old Ipod, but the mrs has a new one so am going to need both connections.
Point of note to hang the dealer with!
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Another marketing blunder... all cars made after BW45 should come with a MDI to Lightening cable (green collar).
I have already posted the part numbers in the MDI cable thread. :smiley:
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The point here is though that if you have the advanced telephone preparation then you don't have an MDI port and if you did, it is not in the armrest where the ATP is...
Mine was built BW46 and has no MDI port... I'm not bothered because I have an old ipod in the cubby under the dash and a Y cable, I have the SD card slot, an I can stream music over bluetooth... and when I mentioned it to VW (I didn't complain, just asked if the MDI port was deleted when choosing the ATP) they gave me £250 (I chose John Lewis vouchers) from the VW Goodwill Catalogue...
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The point here is though that if you have the advanced telephone preparation then you don't have an MDI port and if you did, it is not in the armrest where the ATP is...
Mine was built BW46 and has no MDI port... I'm not bothered because I have an old ipod in the cubby under the dash and a Y cable, I have the SD card slot, an I can stream music over bluetooth... and when I mentioned it to VW (I didn't complain, just asked if the MDI port was deleted when choosing the ATP) they gave me £250 (I chose John Lewis vouchers) from the VW Goodwill Catalogue...
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Correct.... to be fair I just use the Adv Phone Kit and have my music on my SD card.... works for me. :smiley:
The DynAudio system is flawless.
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The point here is though that if you have the advanced telephone preparation then you don't have an MDI port and if you did, it is not in the armrest where the ATP is...
Mine was built BW46 and has no MDI port... I'm not bothered because I have an old ipod in the cubby under the dash and a Y cable, I have the SD card slot, an I can stream music over bluetooth... and when I mentioned it to VW (I didn't complain, just asked if the MDI port was deleted when choosing the ATP) they gave me £250 (I chose John Lewis vouchers) from the VW Goodwill Catalogue...
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Correct.... to be fair I just use the Adv Phone Kit and have my music on my SD card.... works for me. :smiley:
The DynAudio system is flawless.
The DynAudio is certainly not flawless... what system is? It is very good for the money though... significantly better than the Harman-Kardon in the g/f's BMW
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I have just been to the dealers to check my car, which has just arrived. It has the MDI with the older apple lead (perfect as I have an IPOD I use for music in the car) It was build week 48 :grin:
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The point here is though that if you have the advanced telephone preparation then you don't have an MDI port and if you did, it is not in the armrest where the ATP is...
Mine was built BW46 and has no MDI port... I'm not bothered because I have an old ipod in the cubby under the dash and a Y cable, I have the SD card slot, an I can stream music over bluetooth... and when I mentioned it to VW (I didn't complain, just asked if the MDI port was deleted when choosing the ATP) they gave me £250 (I chose John Lewis vouchers) from the VW Goodwill Catalogue...
:smiley:
Correct.... to be fair I just use the Adv Phone Kit and have my music on my SD card.... works for me. :smiley:
The DynAudio system is flawless.
The DynAudio is certainly not flawless... what system is? It is very good for the money though... significantly better than the Harman-Kardon in the g/f's BMW
Ok perhaps flawless was a tad too strong, lol. I'm certainly glad I ordered it that's for sure.
Interesting, another car built after mine too hasn't come with the iPhone5 MDI cable, I can only imagine a stock shortage lol!
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So - just to confirm - are cars spec'd with ATP now coming with MDI?
Also, another question - some people have said on this thread that you can't use ATP and MDI at the same time: is that just referring to the fact that you can't have one device plugged in at two places, or is there something preventing ATP and MDI working together if you have a phone and an iPod pllugged in at the same time?
This is the last decision I need to make to finalise my ideal spec, just need to sell the TT, then I can get me order in :lipsrsealed:
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So - just to confirm - are cars spec'd with ATP now coming with MDI?
Also, another question - some people have said on this thread that you can't use ATP and MDI at the same time: is that just referring to the fact that you can't have one device plugged in at two places, or is there something preventing ATP and MDI working together if you have a phone and an iPod pllugged in at the same time?
This is the last decision I need to make to finalise my ideal spec, just need to sell the TT, then I can get me order in :lipsrsealed:
Hi,
All cars should now comes with MDI fitted as it was only the first lot of cars which had them missing when spec included ATP. :)
You can use a iPod and a phone in the ATP if you wanted to, they can work.
I was just referring to it being a problem if you have a iPhone and your music on the iPhone too.
You can't place the device in two places at the same time.
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Appreciate this is picking at an old wound, but it unfortunately applies! I'm currently having discussions with VW customer services about the omission of the MDI from my BW39 GTD and wondering if there is anyone else who manages to successfully resolve the issue and what the circumstances around it were?
I have had the car over a month now and as such fairly sure they won't be able to do much for me, have other people gone as far as rejecting vehicle at point of collection? Interested to know what resolution people got when they had already taken delivery.
I had enquired about the MDI prior to picking up (I wasn't told about it, I found out through this forum!) and as the car was only the second that the dealer had seen with the Advanced Phone Prep, I didn't get confirmation about the lack of MDI until a few days before collection (when they got the car).
Thoughts?
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Appreciate this is picking at an old wound, but it unfortunately applies! I'm currently having discussions with VW customer services about the omission of the MDI from my BW39 GTD and wondering if there is anyone else who manages to successfully resolve the issue and what the circumstances around it were?
I have had the car over a month now and as such fairly sure they won't be able to do much for me, have other people gone as far as rejecting vehicle at point of collection? Interested to know what resolution people got when they had already taken delivery.
I had enquired about the MDI prior to picking up (I wasn't told about it, I found out through this forum!) and as the car was only the second that the dealer had seen with the Advanced Phone Prep, I didn't get confirmation about the lack of MDI until a few days before collection (when they got the car).
Thoughts?
Hi, Was your car one of the few that missed out somehow? I have advanced phone prep, which works really well and also have an MDI. Really sorry to hear about your problems.
Ian
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Certainly was. Didn't think it would be that big a deal but having had it on the Mk 6 it's really irritating me!
Pain in the arse how the media system doesn't read the ID3 tags, and as such you have to manually sort them in to respective folders. What's the point having a 64 gig iPhone if you can't browse all that lovely music on the big screen..
Plus, it's about principle. It SHOULD have been there, so I want it there. I paid for it. VW screwed up and I'm at a disadvantage because of it.
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Sorry to bring up this old thread but thought I would update on how I've got on.
Brief recap, I've got and early car with the advanced phone prep so no MDI port..
My dealer has had my car in this week, he has provided me with a MP3 player (Sony Walkman) and I believe they have updated my headunit(pro-nav). Music transferred easily from Itunes to the Walkman, which is now connected to the USB socket in the compartment forward of the gearstick. All works perfectly, Walkman controlled from the touchscreen, album art all displayed no problem and able to swipe just like if it were an iPod and MDI combo.
I was already using a SD card to store my music but converting from iTunes to MP3, then embedding artwork in each track and resizing it was a bit of a pain every time I added new music.
Now just a couple of clicks and new music added and ready to play.
I never wanted to use my phone connected to the MDI port to play music, just wanted it in the phone prep cradle to use as a phone and the have my music on an iPod connected to the MDI port (that I don't have !) and controlled from the headunit touchscreen.
Ok so I don't have the MDI Port but I do have all the functionality that it would have given me but with another device.
I have no idea if this would have worked previously as I didn't try to use the front USB after I plugged in my iPod when I first got the the car and the USB was greyed out as a source.
Not sure if this is any help to anyone but thought I would let everybody know how I've got round the missing MDI port.
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Simples, get android phone, simply plug it into the usb port in dash, radio recognises it and off it goes and plays music.
so what do i need mdi for??
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I'm not sure if this is still relevant but I'm currently driving a BMW and I have the USB and aux sockets. I needed to use a Y cable like the one below. Not sure if it would fix the problem for the Golf and would've thought VW would've explored the option but for under a tenner might be worth a try. On the Media options on the BMW if one lead not connected the IPhone/iPod option is greyed out.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooper-iPhone-Adapter-Interface-suitable/dp/B006K8VWUS/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1395326784&sr=8-13&keywords=usb+y+cable
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has anyone managed to get round this issue yet?
I have mark 7 GTI and have complained to 3 different dealers with no luck!
Does anyone know if retrofit is an option?
I noticed on another forum:
According to ETKA, there is a new USB Socket module (the one that goes in front of the gear stick), that is USB and Ipod Compatible:
5G0 035 222 D (the "D" at the end is the important bit)- ETKA Description - Electronic Interface for External Use - AUX In, USB (ipod Compatible). This seems to be around the £20 mark ish.
It would seem that this would need to be used with a new connection cable (between the USB Module and the Media unit in the glove box) 5G0 971 650 AA (as this one superseded the old cable on 1st August 2013, again the "AA" at the end is important). These seem to be around the £35-£40 mark.
not tried, but might be worth it??
thanks - JGE
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Strange...
My newly supplied and collecting GTD came with an MDI to USB cable in front of the gearstick in the cubbyhole; connected the iPod and it plays no bother through the DNS system, recognizes everything (well except playlists which I can't seem to find through the menu) ?
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MDI to UCB cable? Can you upload an image please?
Have any dealers actually accepted this is an issue and done anything about it?
I picked my car up last November and am still no closer to being able to use ipod through the car as it should be!
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MDI to UCB cable? Can you upload an image please?
Have any dealers actually accepted this is an issue and done anything about it?
I picked my car up last November and am still no closer to being able to use ipod through the car as it should be!
What is it you are trying to connect? Can't you just use the MDI to Ipod lead?
MDI to USB is here http://bit.ly/1wQDYiq
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MDI to UCB cable? Can you upload an image please?
Have any dealers actually accepted this is an issue and done anything about it?
I picked my car up last November and am still no closer to being able to use ipod through the car as it should be!
Sorry I actually meant MDI to iPod connection (old charger style)
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I am another who has just found out that ATP removes the MDI socket if ordered with Discover Navigation Pro. My dealer assured me that Pods would work and the VW website and user manual make no mention of any incompatibility between iPods and the DNP's USB input; but VW UK today told me that with USB the DNP can be used to scroll through tracks but not iPod categories such as genres, composers etc.
Some posts on VW fora claim that iPods can be fully controlled on the head unit via USB. Most people on this thread have found otherwise. Does the type of iPod (eg Classic with a hard drive) make a difference? Did the poster who switched to a Sony Walkman get full functionality?
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Does this mean you cannot use a usb hard drive either? What about the port in the arm rest?
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You can use a USB HDD as long as formatted correctly.
The USB in armrest is for charging only, no data connection.
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This one is interesting, I swear I have a FAT32 512Gb drive used to work in my mk6 but it seems like its only catalogued the A, B and part of the C folder but If I have a folder in the root with just mp3s in it, it says there are no playable files. Has it got limits, if it does they are low.
Layout like this
Root
->1-Favs
--------->mp3s inside (thinks there is nothing to play here)
->A
--------->Abba
--------->AC/DC
......
->B
--------->Bon Jovi
.....
->C
--------->Chemical Brothers
.....
e.t.c.
->D (These folders onwards it says nothing to play).