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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Hawaii-Five-O on 02 July 2013, 14:12
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Just got back from test driving a GTI, 5 Door, Manual, ACC, Keyless, Sat Nav Pro.
Here are my thoughts:
Positives
Still looks great even in 5 door guise
Carbon Grey is a lovely colour and exclusive to GTD/GTI, so one to consider (still very tempted to change from white)
Super smooth 2.0 TSI engine
Manual gearbox a total delight. Short action and precise. Lovely.
Powerful acceleration (but not insanely faster than my Scirocco which is deceptively quick (but you could feel it had much more torque)
Very refined ride for a hot hatch and much, much better ride than my Scirocco (which can crash & thump over bumps)
Even in Sport on the ACC it soaked up bumps incredibly well (did whole test drive in 'Sport')
Interior quality a step up from my Scirocco (but not enormously so)
Cloth seats lovely and add real character
Very little wind noise (door seals are very, very snug)
Stop-Start tech worked incredibly quickly (a surprise)
Good lip height for boot access (important for some people)
Loved the keyless entry system and push button start. Feels classy. A must-have optional extra at only £355 imo
The blade alloy wheels are a treat close up. Beautifully milled and finished (be easier to clean than the Nogaro's too)
Overall a very, very well-sorted package :smiley:
So-so's
Didn't feel much, much quicker then my current Scirocco (which surprised me)
Wasn't bowled over by the exhaust note (couldn't tell if it was real or piped into cabin)
Quality of the plastics used in the rear doors (i.e. not crap but isn't soft touch like the front)
At lot of buttons on the steering wheel (but I'm sure you'll get used to it)
I set the ACC to 'Sport' mode to try and replicate standard factory set up as I won't be speccing it
Didn't get chance to really chuck it around because of roads, traffic and the sales guy who was sat next to me. So I can't describe how good/bad the road holding and cornering were.
Overall a really enjoyable test drive. I'm impressed.
Just a shame there is no GTD demonstrator until September :shocked: So no way to test drive back-to-back.
(http://i1330.photobucket.com/albums/w565/Gary_Monkey/VW%20Golf%20Mk%207%20GTI%205%20door%20manual/image_zpsee53909e.jpg)
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Nice write up H5O - did you like it enough to upgrade from the GTD to the GTI?! :lipsrsealed: :laugh:
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Just got back from test driving a GTI, 5 Door, Manual, ACC, Keyless, Sat Nav Pro.
Here are my thoughts:
Positives
Still looks great even in 5 door guise
Carbon Grey is a lovely colour and exclusive to GTD/GTI, so one to consider (still very tempted to change from white)
Super smooth 2.0 TSI engine
Manual gearbox a total delight. Short action and precise. Lovely.
Powerful acceleration (but not insanely faster than my Scirocco which is deceptively quick (but you could feel it had much more torque)
Very refined ride for a hot hatch and much, much better ride than my Scirocco (which can crash & thump over bumps)
Even in Sport on the ACC it soaked up bumps incredibly well (did whole test drive in 'Sport')
Interior quality a step up from my Scirocco (but not enormously so)
Cloth seats lovely and add real character
Very little wind noise (door seals are very, very snug)
Stop-Start tech worked incredibly quickly (a surprise)
Good lip height for boot access (important for some people)
Loved the keyless entry system and push button start. Feels classy. A must-have optional extra at only £355 imo
Overall a very, very well-sorted package :smiley:
So-so's
Didn't feel much, much quicker then my current Scirocco (which surprised me)
Wasn't bowled over by the exhaust note (couldn't tell if it was real or piped into cabin)
Quality of the plastics used in the rear doors (i.e. not crap but isn't soft touch like the front)
At lot of buttons on the steering wheel (but I'm sure you'll get used to it)
I set the ACC to 'Sport' mode to try and replicate standard factory set up as I won't be speccing it
Didn't get chance to really chuck it around because of roads, traffic and the sales guy who was sat next to me. So I can't describe how good/bad the road holding and cornering were.
Overall a really enjoyable test drive. I'm impressed.
Just a shame there is no GTD demonstrator until September :shocked: So no way to test drive back-to-back.
(http://i1330.photobucket.com/albums/w565/Gary_Monkey/VW%20Golf%20Mk%207%20GTI%205%20door%20manual/image_zpsee53909e.jpg)
Think looks better in Black on GTD but still nice & stealthy as someone put it.
Think the sound aktuator is exclusive to the GTD (and now confirmed as standard on UK GTD) so as to replicate a petrol engine in some way and not on GTI which is it's natural sound.
The Car Buyer video yesterday had plenty of GTI exhaust noise and sounded good though might be different in the insulated cabin.
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Yeah good write up H5O, though I'm not sure how close sport replicates a stock setup given the constant adjustment of the shocks anyway. Still, by all accounts it offers a good ride!
Have to say, I actually like a more subdued sound in the cabin - can always put the windows down to let some natural sound in, especially in those enclosed spaces like car parks! ;)
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mjh: On the Scirocco the 140TDI and 2.0TSI 200/210 don't get sound actuator, but the 170TDI and 265PS Scirocco R do. Due to that, and the GTD has it, i'd say that the GTI probably won't, but the future R or edition 40 might.
Gryzor: On a GTD i'd rather keep the natural noise out and the beefy artificial noise in by keeping the windows closed. :whistle:
Internally (cabin sounds), on the Scirocco at least, the actuator makes the 170TDI sound better than the 2.0TSI (210), as daft as that sounds - presumably that's why the "R" gets it too.
Going purely off the Scirocco, "sport" on ACC/DCC will most replicate fixed shock set-up of non ACC/DCC equipped variants. It's the hardest and least assisted of the ACC/DCC modes.
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Loved the keyless entry system and push button start. Feels classy. A must-have optional extra at only £355 imo
Oh no!!!! I debated adding it and when I decided to go for it I was told it was too late. Really regretting it now. At least I got the colour right (CSG) :smiley:
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Loved the keyless entry system and push button start. Feels classy. A must-have optional extra at only £355 imo
Oh no!!!! I debated adding it and when I decided to go for it I was told it was too late. Really regretting it now. At least I got the colour right (CSG) :smiley:
That is probably the most likely option that has a chance of becoming standard in mid-life facelift or MK8 Golf. Handier for women with big handbags full of rubbish who can never find their keys, now they don't need to
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The keyless entry really is a fantastic feature. Definitely glad I spec'd it.
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Yeah I'm so glad I went for keyless - very classy and convenient.
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At least I got the colour right (CSG) :smiley:
You did indeed... its beauty in the metal. You won't be disappointed.
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Yeah I'm so glad I went for keyless - very classy and convenient.
On the other hand, the new key is a thing of beauty, so using it as it's meant to be (instead of hiding in a pocket) won't be a burden. Or so I keep telling myself :rolleyes:
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So-so's
Didn't feel much, much quicker then my current Scirocco (which surprised me)
I didn't think it was much quicker than my MK5 Golf GTI, I think the main reason is the extra torque generated by the engine is lost to taller gearing. 2nd and 3rd are much taller on the MK7, the MK5 can't do 80 in 3rd (recorded by GPS as the speedo is miles out) where the MK7 was heading to over 100, 2nd was around 75 so very similar to 3rd in the MK5. Compare 3rd in the MK5 to 2nd in the MK7 and the MK7 is significantly quicker, I am surprised this hasn't been mentioned in reviews.
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Cheers for the write up, always good to get other people's views.
One question about keyless entry, those of you raving about it can you enlighten me ?! Not being sarcy, it just never featured on my wish list at all but would love to know the appeal.. How does it work, what are the benefits etc?
It's same price as the fixed price servicing ore or less and thought it was just a gimmick but I am open minded :smiley:
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Cheers for the write up, always good to get other people's views.
One question about keyless entry, those of you raving about it can you enlighten me ?! Not being sarcy, it just never featured on my wish list at all but would love to know the appeal.. How does it work, what are the benefits etc?
It's same price as the fixed price servicing ore or less and thought it was just a gimmick but I am open minded :smiley:
I'd rather have keyless on my front door, it would make the blokes life easier in that Yorkie advert! We do have a keyless front door - bleeper or you can enter in a code (up to 12 digit programmable) - my success (or not) in putting in the code after a night on the lash is my measure of how drunk I am - 3 attempts and I resort to the fob.
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Cheers for the write up, always good to get other people's views.
One question about keyless entry, those of you raving about it can you enlighten me ?! Not being sarcy, it just never featured on my wish list at all but would love to know the appeal.. How does it work, what are the benefits etc?
It's same price as the fixed price servicing ore or less and thought it was just a gimmick but I am open minded :smiley:
Leave the keys in your pocket. Walk up to the car and it unlocks as you put your hand on the handle. Sit in and press the start button, the mirrors unfold and ignition fires up.
To lock the car, press the little dimple on the door handle.
I'm kinda liking the electronic parking brake too. You basically never need to touch it! It engages/disengages automatically, e.g.. Seat belt on, first gear selected, the brake disengages as you move off.
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Cheers for the write up, always good to get other people's views.
One question about keyless entry, those of you raving about it can you enlighten me ?! Not being sarcy, it just never featured on my wish list at all but would love to know the appeal.. How does it work, what are the benefits etc?
It's same price as the fixed price servicing ore or less and thought it was just a gimmick but I am open minded :smiley:
Leave the keys in your pocket. Walk up to the car and it unlocks as you put your hand on the handle. Sit in and press the start button, the mirrors unfold and ignition fires up.
To lock the car, press the little dimple on the door handle.
I'm kinda liking the electronic parking brake too. You basically never need to touch it! It engages/disengages automatically, e.g.. Seat belt on, first gear selected, the brake disengages as you move off.
Glad the electronic brake is so easy. Some eejit in a big Peugeot rolled back 10 feet into my Scirocco yesterday when we'd been stopped at a light - his excuse was still getting used to the electronic brake. Didn't do any damage, it was a gentle roll back.
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Cheers for the write up, always good to get other people's views.
One question about keyless entry, those of you raving about it can you enlighten me ?! Not being sarcy, it just never featured on my wish list at all but would love to know the appeal.. How does it work, what are the benefits etc?
It's same price as the fixed price servicing ore or less and thought it was just a gimmick but I am open minded :smiley:
Leave the keys in your pocket. Walk up to the car and it unlocks as you put your hand on the handle. Sit in and press the start button, the mirrors unfold and ignition fires up.
To lock the car, press the little dimple on the door handle.
I'm kinda liking the electronic parking brake too. You basically never need to touch it! It engages/disengages automatically, e.g.. Seat belt on, first gear selected, the brake disengages as you move off.
Glad the electronic brake is so easy. Some eejit in a big Peugeot rolled back 10 feet into my Scirocco yesterday when we'd been stopped at a light - his excuse was still getting used to the electronic brake. Didn't do any damage, it was a gentle roll back.
Being a bit dim but why does the car even have the electronic brake switch. When would you use it if everything is automatic :embarrassed:
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I second the electric brake view, when I saw it I said to the guy, god not an elec handbrake.. But actually it works very well an is intuitive, never need to touch it if you wear your seatbelt and it holds well on an incline and releases when you dab brake or throttle to move.
Thanks for the keyless entry views, does sound quite cool.
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One question about keyless entry, those of you raving about it can you enlighten me ?! Not being sarcy, it just never featured on my wish list at all but would love to know the appeal.. How does it work, what are the benefits etc?
It's same price as the fixed price servicing ore or less and thought it was just a gimmick but I am open minded :smiley:
A bit cheesy but explains the keyless entry system well
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FxM-fN0xLAE
I just loved the sensation of pushing the lovely chrome button to start, kinda feels like an event and quite up market (I'm easily pleased). I'm sure the excitement will wear of after a few months of use though.
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Cheers for the write up, always good to get other people's views.
One question about keyless entry, those of you raving about it can you enlighten me ?! Not being sarcy, it just never featured on my wish list at all but would love to know the appeal.. How does it work, what are the benefits etc?
It's same price as the fixed price servicing ore or less and thought it was just a gimmick but I am open minded :smiley:
Leave the keys in your pocket. Walk up to the car and it unlocks as you put your hand on the handle. Sit in and press the start button, the mirrors unfold and ignition fires up.
To lock the car, press the little dimple on the door handle.
I'm kinda liking the electronic parking brake too. You basically never need to touch it! It engages/disengages automatically, e.g.. Seat belt on, first gear selected, the brake disengages as you move off.
Glad the electronic brake is so easy. Some eejit in a big Peugeot rolled back 10 feet into my Scirocco yesterday when we'd been stopped at a light - his excuse was still getting used to the electronic brake. Didn't do any damage, it was a gentle roll back.
Being a bit dim but why does the car even have the electronic brake switch. When would you use it if everything is automatic :embarrassed:
Good question, cos as long as you are wearing the seatbelt it disengages automatically. Dealer also recommended I leave HOLD permanently on. With this on, the handbrake applies when you stop at a junction and press the brake pedal. The handbrake symbol in the dash goes green in this case, indicating that the car is on auto hold. Handy for hill starts. Then as soon as you go to move away it disengages.
Then when you park up at home, the parking brake engages when you release your seatbelt.
I read in the manual that you can use the parking brake as an emergency brake.... Handbrake turns?!!!! Maybe that's why the button is there.
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I liked the auto hold on the MK7 hire car I had (manual) but the only thing which un-nerved me was when parking it would kick in and you would have to give it a bit of beans to get it to auto disengage - always thought I'd have a shunt so turned it off when parking
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Wow this is hilarious:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2jIF2UIwnc
Every time you think it can't get worse they prove you wrong! :laugh: by 2 mins in I was cracking up. "Oh that's rig, I keep trying to start the car by just pressing the button." Guess its because you are blond!
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What a douche, he explains it to her then tries to open the door and can't - p!ss poor editing & presentation!
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What a douche, he explains it to her then tries to open the door and can't - p!ss poor editing & presentation!
To be honest the whole thing is pure comedic genius! Standard "I'm a blond who needs everything spelt out in detail five times over in a conversation clearly scripted and rehearsed at length, while we all grin like our lives depend on it."
Its actually a series. I think I'm gonna watch the rest if I get bored at work!
I can't imagine who thought extreme patronisation was a good way to sell a car to people? Or perhaps this is just how things are done in the US...
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Wow this is hilarious:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2jIF2UIwnc
It had the makings a porn film :laugh:
Back to the keyless entry, does it still have a fob that will allow you to click and open the doors like normal?
There is nothing better going back to your car in the dark and using the fob to see the lights light up
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Wow this is hilarious:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2jIF2UIwnc
It had the makings a porn film :laugh:
Back to the keyless entry, does it still have a fob that will allow you to click and open the doors like normal?
There is nothing better going back to your car in the dark and using the fob to see the lights light up
Yup, still get a normal key which is great because i have a little OCD when i can't remember if i locked it or not?? so it'll save me walking all the way back to the car! :laugh:
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Yeah know the feeling Jimble :laugh:
That's why I had to enable the chirp on my Golf and why I now have to do it twice on my A1 as I haven't enabled the chirp yet :undecided:
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Yeah know the feeling Jimble :laugh:
That's why I had to enable the chirp on my Golf and why I now have to do it twice on my A1 as I haven't enabled the chirp yet :undecided:
Does it "chirp" or is it a crap "honk" like in that -ahem- porn film? Because I don't want it sounding the horn like that to indicate it has locked, that's just gonna make everyone look over as if I'm an idiot bumping the steering wheel.
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It is literally just a small chirp. But it seems to be a marmite thing.
It was just reassurance for me and definitely something I want to put back on my car.
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I put a chirp on my Scirocco with VCDS for closing - difinite chirp and not a honk.
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I dont think you can have a chirp or honk anymore. Something to do with Brussels/EU and noise pollution crap.
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I dont think you can have a chirp or honk anymore. Something to do with Brussels/EU and noise pollution crap.
And how are they going to stop us exactly? :evil: This only makes me more interested in it. Every time I lock the car I'll get a little extra "f*ck you EU" satisfaction out of it. Oh yeah :grin: :grin: :grin:!
Someone needs to fly a fighter jet at Mach 2 100m above Brussels, then they'll know what noise pollution really is.
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Anyone know if VAG COM software for the MK5/MK6 work with the MK7? A mate of mine has Vag Com and he made some tweaks to my MK6 GTD for me back in the day. I might ask him to enable the alarm chirp on my GTI if that's possible with his software...
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Do the wing mirrors automatically fold in when the car is locked? If so, that's the only clue I need that the doors are locked! None of this chirping and beeping here like cars used to when remote locking first became the fashion! :grin:
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That's a good point. Although psychologically I'm damaged and need to hear it for myself "just in case" :smiley:
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That's a good point. Although psychologically I'm damaged and need to hear it for myself "just in case" :smiley:
Haha! Can't beat having the choice if it's there :grin: I just find the whole sound thing a bit "cheep" if you pardon the pun!
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They do fold when you lock the car yeah (although you can disable that) but I don't think they unfold again until you start the ignition!
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We've been to Florida a couple of times and 90% of American cars do the honk thing when you lock them, i must say it was an absolute lifesaver when it came to trying to find the hire car in the Universal studio's car park!! :D
Not so useful at Sainsbury's! ;D
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We've been to Florida a couple of times and 90% of American cars do the honk thing when you lock them, i must say it was an absolute lifesaver when it came to trying to find the hire car in the Universal studio's car park!! :D
Not so useful at Sainsbury's! ;D
US car parks must just be "honk honk honk honk honk honk honk honk". Like a load of ducks quacking at each other...
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Yeah! I was on a USA holiday myself only in the last few weeks and I still have a headache from all the honking! It's very common / accepted practice there to constantly honk the horn at traffic in front of you if they are too slow or dare to make a wrong move at a junction... not good for a nervous tourist struggling with a Garmin!
Then as Jimble says, the cars have so many beeps and warning noises, they'd really do your head in. I was lucky enough to get a Ford Mustang for a few days, only had 300miles on the clock when I got it. Lovely car, but those of us used to German interior build quality would be appalled by the fit and finish in it. The ignition key was like something from a 1988 Toyota!
Here's the beast I had...
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vag.com will work but it's limited at the moment with the mk7 being so new. I don't think you can activate the horn or chirp anymore even with vag.com