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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: VWchapman17 on 28 June 2013, 00:19
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bought a mk2 golf 1.3 on ebay the other day after viewing it the day before auction end. its my first car
(http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a488/VWchap17/IMG_1682_zpsa3f678dd.jpg)
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(http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a488/VWchap17/IMG_1689_zps44176f8a.jpg)
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Nice, but... why no GTI?!
PS, get a badged grill ;)
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it already has a rear disc conversion, weber carb with manual choke, lowered on coilovers. very solid underneath and no sign of any rust.
so much planned for it, full restore of interior, tidy up of exterior and fresh paint, new wheels and arches(arches are cracked) bigger engine in the future. so much planned
lots of pics to be uploaded, as will need advice and help.
thanks
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Nice, but... why no GTI?!
PS, get a badged grill ;)
haha I prefer the de badged grill.. gives it that.. angry face almost like a frown, looks mean. im only 17 its my first car haha! cant afford to insure a gti, insurance for this is £1157
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Nice, but... why no GTI?!
PS, get a badged grill ;)
haha I prefer the de badged grill.. gives it that.. angry face almost like a frown, looks mean. im only 17 its my first car haha! cant afford to insure a gti, insurance for this is £1157
By the sounds of it you will be plowing money into it anyway! GTI was my first car at 19, but this is still an awesome first car. Infinitely better than a corsa or some sh!t haha, enjoy it mate.
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Welcome to the MK2 club...
My son's 1st car was a MK2 (Wonder why!!) Enjoy it and mess with it as much as you want... Then you'll learn that OEM is the way. But we all have to start somewhere and what a good car to start with...
You will find all the help you need on here and no doubt some sarcasm, but take it with a pinch of salt... It's a forum after all...
Enjoy & Learn!!
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Nice, but... why no GTI?!
PS, get a badged grill ;)
haha I prefer the de badged grill.. gives it that.. angry face almost like a frown, looks mean. im only 17 its my first car haha! cant afford to insure a gti, insurance for this is £1157
By the sounds of it you will be plowing money into it anyway! GTI was my first car at 19, but this is still an awesome first car. Infinitely better than a corsa or some sh!t haha, enjoy it mate.
yeah i'll be spending a lot on it haha, insurance must have cost a bomb for a gti.. yeah definitely better than a corsa haha!! always loved vw's especially mk2s
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Welcome to the MK2 club...
My son's 1st car was a MK2 (Wonder why!!) Enjoy it and mess with it as much as you want... Then you'll learn that OEM is the way. But we all have to start somewhere and what a good car to start with...
You will find all the help you need on here and no doubt some sarcasm, but take it with a pinch of salt... It's a forum after all...
Enjoy & Learn!!
thanks mate!!
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Wise words from X4MGS, I've only been here a month or two and the guys have been stupidly helpful.
And insurance wasn't so bad, I made sure I had the parents as named drivers to lower the risk and it came out at about £900 fully comp 6000 or 8000 (can't remember) miles a year.
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Welcome to the MK2 club...
My son's 1st car was a MK2 (Wonder why!!) Enjoy it and mess with it as much as you want... Then you'll learn that OEM is the way. But we all have to start somewhere and what a good car to start with...
You will find all the help you need on here and no doubt some sarcasm, but take it with a pinch of salt... It's a forum after all...
Enjoy & Learn!!
thanks mate!!
No Problem...
I just wish I could have started with with a MK2 Golf....
I had a 2CV in multi coloured 70's green , took me 10 years to get a Driver (For the ex wife @£3.5K Bargain...) and have owned at least 20 MK2 GTI's since...
As said enjoy and welcome to the club...
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Wise words from X4MGS, I've only been here a month or two and the guys have been stupidly helpful.
And insurance wasn't so bad, I made sure I had the parents as named drivers to lower the risk and it came out at about £900 fully comp 6000 or 8000 (can't remember) miles a year.
Cost my son £900 for a 1.6 driver with him using my 9 years no claims and him as 2nd driver - that was only 3 years ago, but he now has his own GTI and the insurance has drop massively...
You just need time and a GTI will come & look at these years as a learning curve for a MK2...
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damn that's cheap.. mines 1100 fully comp!!! with parents as named drivers
will need some tips or advice tomorrow as my car has a weber carb and a manual choke, when I actually start the car it cuts out straight after??
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Welcome to the MK2 club...
My son's 1st car was a MK2 (Wonder why!!) Enjoy it and mess with it as much as you want... Then you'll learn that OEM is the way. But we all have to start somewhere and what a good car to start with...
You will find all the help you need on here and no doubt some sarcasm, but take it with a pinch of salt... It's a forum after all...
Enjoy & Learn!!
thanks mate!!
No Problem...
I just wish I could have started with with a MK2 Golf....
I had a 2CV in multi coloured 70's green , took me 10 years to get a Driver (For the ex wife @£3.5K Bargain...) and have owned at least 20 MK2 GTI's since...
As said enjoy and welcome to the club...
at least I done the sensible thing and get a mk2!!
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Welcome to the MK2 club...
My son's 1st car was a MK2 (Wonder why!!) Enjoy it and mess with it as much as you want... Then you'll learn that OEM is the way. But we all have to start somewhere and what a good car to start with...
You will find all the help you need on here and no doubt some sarcasm, but take it with a pinch of salt... It's a forum after all...
Enjoy & Learn!!
thanks mate!!
No Problem...
I just wish I could have started with with a MK2 Golf....
I had a 2CV in multi coloured 70's green , took me 10 years to get a Driver (For the ex wife @£3.5K Bargain...) and have owned at least 20 MK2 GTI's since...
As said enjoy and welcome to the club...
at least I done the sensible thing and get a mk2!!
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damn that's cheap.. mines 1100 fully comp!!! with parents as named drivers
will need some tips or advice tomorrow as my car has a weber carb and a manual choke, when I actually start the car it cuts out straight after??
Yeah I was pretty pleased, I couldn't believe it when I realised I could afford a mk2 GTI haha.
Have you used a manual choke before? (http://www.ehow.co.uk/how_7993007_use-manual-choke-car.html)
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damn that's cheap.. mines 1100 fully comp!!! with parents as named drivers
will need some tips or advice tomorrow as my car has a weber carb and a manual choke, when I actually start the car it cuts out straight after??
Yeah I was pretty pleased, I couldn't believe it when I realised I could afford a mk2 GTI haha.
Have you used a manual choke before? (http://www.ehow.co.uk/how_7993007_use-manual-choke-car.html)
haha I bet you was!! yeahh I was sort of doing a similar thing anyway! it just revs very low on idle and cuts out, is that just manual choke or do I need to set it right for idle??
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nevermind! as I just remember that when I had got it warmer after working out the choke it sat fine on idle
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How many young mk2 owners are on here? I'm 19 and its my second car. It only cost £200 more to insure my gti over my first car, a 1.0L 6n polo.
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me and you so far, that's 2 already lol, im sure there is a lot!!
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just bought a steering wheel as mine came without, in the meantime I wanted to get the dash out to sort out all this wiring hanging out, the gauges in the centre console need wiring also but the rain has killed my plans
heres what It looks like inside(http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a488/VWchap17/IMG_1686_zps87603f17.jpg)
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That's only stereo wiring no need to take dash out. There's guides for the gauges aswell on this site.
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me and you so far, that's 2 already lol, im sure there is a lot!!
And me, still 19...
Also, does it have an ejector seat? What is the funky flip-switch right of the radio?!
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me and you so far, that's 2 already lol, im sure there is a lot!!
And me, still 19...
Also, does it have an ejector seat? What is the funky flip-switch right of the radio?!
im still waiting to find out what it does too haha I have no idea
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have a problem, my bonnet shuts properly but you have to proper slam it.. but when you shut it properly you cant open it using the bonnet release in the drivers side footwell.. i took the grille off to find that it was being help on my cable ties so i need a new grille. i took off the grille to see that everything is fine, but the actual cable going to the spring from the bonnet release pops out when its closed properly, so you have to put it back into place to actually open it again.? correct me if im wrong but do i just need to adjust the cable from the bonnet release in the footwell so it stays tighter and stays in place? then it will open and close fine? wrong or right..
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That's only stereo wiring no need to take dash out. There's guides for the gauges aswell on this site.
you got the link to the guide for the gauges?? want to get it done
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That's only stereo wiring no need to take dash out. There's guides for the gauges aswell on this site.
you got the link to the guide for the gauges?? want to get it done
There are a couple of threads in here; http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?board=40.0
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That's only stereo wiring no need to take dash out. There's guides for the gauges aswell on this site.
you got the link to the guide for the gauges?? want to get it done
There are a couple of threads in here; http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?board=40.0
thanks mate
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I have a switch like that on my dash, when the lady's ask it's a boost flux regulator, in reality it's a fan override switch
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I have a switch like that on my dash, when the lady's ask it's a boost flux regulator, in reality it's a fan override switch
haha i might start saying a similar thing!!
oh well my engine temp has got up to half way before and my fan hasnt still kicked in.. so i am unsure if my fan works haha, i'll have to check tomorrow
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Older cars actually use the whole temp gauge, it should run hot. Mine kicks in at around 3/4 of the way.
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oh fair enough then, i'll just have to check everythings wired up just incase
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With everything off flip your magic switch a listen out for anything. Think my switch was installed as it doesn't have the intermediate fan kick in. Only the final trigger. Leave it running on the drive for a while and see if it kicks in once at temperature. With no ram air then it will get warmer and the fan should kick in.
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i have another question.. on the drivers side there is some sort of fuel line.. when running smoke comes out the filter.. ive seen other mk2's and they dont have this, the hose goes down to the back of the engine block and its not got a jubilee clip to hold it on
ive smelt the smoke and filter and it just smells like fuel.. so i dont get why it'd smoke out fuel? so it obviously doesnt go there
heres the pics
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that will be your crankcase breather sir. its actually meant to plumb in to air filter box but I see you have kn so it will just be vented to atmosphere. same way mine is and it never caused me any bother.
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that will be your crankcase breather sir. its actually meant to plumb in to air filter box but I see you have kn so it will just be vented to atmosphere. same way mine is and it never caused me any bother.
ahhh it makes sence now, so it does need to be there im guessing, well mine smokes and smells like fuel.. is that normal?
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yeah that will be oil fumes your smelling. its best to have an oil catch tank on end of pipe or vent it underneath car otherwise you might get oil mist getting up on to your windscreen or fumes coming in through the bulkhead. my breather just hangs down by the sump. keep it away from exhaust though.
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I forgot the smaller engine mk2's are carb not injection. Looks empty in there without airbox and inlet. Mk2's look a bit empty regardless though
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yeah you can actually see the ground under the engine :smiley: piece of cake to work on.
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There is no plastic sh!t trying to hide everything
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oh man that plastic does my nut in something awful. modern cars are just made of junk.
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yeah that will be oil fumes your smelling. its best to have an oil catch tank on end of pipe or vent it underneath car otherwise you might get oil mist getting up on to your windscreen or fumes coming in through the bulkhead. my breather just hangs down by the sump. keep it away from exhaust though.
yeah i'll try find away to get it down to the sump, what will happen if its near the exhaust??
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i need help fitting the vdo gauges, where to i get the wiring, the t-piece and also the oil temp sensor???
ive got all the gauges just need to wire them up
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you could make a hole in base of kn filter and plumb it in to that. kinda like the original set up. or you could extend it down by the rear engine mount and fasten it somehow. you need to keep it away from exhaust or the oil fumes will be going on it and burning which wont smell to nice. it might be fine where it is now but if you get a whiff of oil fumes then you should try either of the above.
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not to sure if the 1300 had an oil temp sender. what are the other 2 gauges?
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not to sure if the 1300 had an oil temp sender. what are the other 2 gauges?
Should be oil pressure & volt gauges
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not to sure if the 1300 had an oil temp sender. what are the other 2 gauges?
Should be oil pressure & volt gauges
yeah they are the other 2 gauges, im even unsure on where the volt gauge wires up to.. my guess was the battery?
ive read through so many threads on this and it just seems confusing
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is it an oil pressure gauge with small pipe going to back? the gauges aren't a problem to wire in. its just the sensors you need to send info to gauges that's the biggest part of job. you got to get the temp and pressure sensors hooked up to the oil gallery somehow but to be honest im not sure if there is any take off other than the 1 for the oil light switch which you should retain. you may need to t piece them in.
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Saw the wiring loom kit on eBay so I'm going to order that tonight, need help finding t piece and the sensor, then I've got everything??
Any links on t peace and sensor??? Or anyone on here selling?
It's for 1984 mk2 golf 1.3
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I have had my gauges for months and still haven't fitted them. If you find sources for everything Give me a pm please
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/T-Piece-for-use-with-Oil-Pressure-Sensor-Oil-Temp-sensor-switch-etc-/180998540636?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2a245a8d5c (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/T-Piece-for-use-with-Oil-Pressure-Sensor-Oil-Temp-sensor-switch-etc-/180998540636?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2a245a8d5c)
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280736422470 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280736422470&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT) Full Loom
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280629605892 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280629605892&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT) Basic loom
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VDO-oil-pressure-sender-/221246136307?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item33834c1ff3 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VDO-oil-pressure-sender-/221246136307?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item33834c1ff3)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OIL-TEMPERATURE-SENDER-VDO-GAUGE-for-AUDI-VW-GOLF-GTI-MK1-2-/290936467447?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item43bd2a2ff7 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OIL-TEMPERATURE-SENDER-VDO-GAUGE-for-AUDI-VW-GOLF-GTI-MK1-2-/290936467447?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item43bd2a2ff7)
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Your just too good X4MGS
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the KING of vdo gauges!!!
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the KING of vdo gauges!!!
Don't know about that!!
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the KING of vdo gauges!!!
Don't know about that!!
bidding on the 2 sensors now and ive bought the t piece, just waiting to get the funds to pay for the full wiring loom
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for those who wanted to know what gauges I had!
(http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a488/VWchap17/IMG_1699_zpsb59ff834.jpg)
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for those who wanted to know what gauges I had!
(http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a488/VWchap17/IMG_1699_zpsb59ff834.jpg)
Cool..... Nice looking Early VDO ones that suit your car!!!
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Oil Temp, Oil Pressure & Voltage as it happens....
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just got to get them wired up, biring your wiring loom on ebay tomorrow or Monday, these sensors don't come cheap!!!! jesus, ones already at 14quid
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that looks like a water temp gauge on the left but its the same thing really. put up a pic of the back of the gauges if you can and we tell you how it wires in.
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Oil pressure senders can go for stupid money at times... Circa £50.00 :(
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that looks like a water temp gauge on the left but its the same thing really. put up a pic of the back of the gauges if you can and we tell you how it wires in.
Both take the temp's from the same place ... So won't make any difference...
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how do you mean they take the temps from the same place?
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Why do you need the T piece????
To put 2 temp sender's in!!
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One sends the signal to the mfa and the other to the gauges. Without the t piece you can only chose one
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ah I thought you meant the water temp and the oil temp came of the same point on the engine lol. I wouldn't bother with the mfa oil temp. just hook the vdo 1 up and since its right there in front of you that's the 1 you will be using most.
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do i really have to spend like 20 quid on a oil temp sender..
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could i not buy this one??? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Oil-Temperature-Gauge-Replacement-Sensor-sender-UNIVERSAL-FIT-2-WIRE-SENSOR-/380422766443?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item5892f6bf6b
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is there no other cheaper sensor that will fit, ive seen water/oil temp sensors for a tenner buy now..
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you could just get a second hand 1 of a mk2/mk3 gti. or maybe the water temp sensor of the earlier gti would work(before 1987/88) I think. the engines with the alloy coolant flanges. the water temp and oil temp senders look very similar.
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so could I get the one in that link in my last post??
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the sensors for oil and water look identical don't they? there is 1 there for 5 quid delivered. worth a punt i would say.
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still unsure whether to just buy it haha
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that sensor on ebay says 10mm thread but it says it fits most vws which are 1/8 npt. so not to sure what the deal is there. the oil light sensor and pressure gauge are 1/8 npt though so they will fit to the t piece/+piece adapter. mind you the adapter comes with a load of different....ummmm. adapters lol.
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so basically that one should work haha? theoretically.
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oh I just remembered! your car doesn't have an mfa. that's only on the gtis.
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so what does that mean, im useless when it comes to electrics haha
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yeah that will be fine. after all 50c oil temp and 50c water temp is exactly the same thing. and the thread should be fine since its for a vw.
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oh if you mean the mfa its the thing on the dash clock that gives you oil temp/mpg/outside air temp etc. only on gtis though.
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you have been a huge help mate!! should get these vdo gauges sorted out soon!!
not got much money left to spend on the car, only got around 50 quid until the 19th of july
polished the car with t-cut today and it has made a huge difference, no more fade
thanks a lot
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a half t-cut polished bonnet, the difference is crazy
(http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a488/VWchap17/IMG_1700_zps61fb9d47.jpg)
side views
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id say it looks a hell of a lot better now
polish up the bumpers and it will look so much cleaner
then on the list is new wheels as the wheels currently on are 17's!! also those wheels look like sh!te
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no worries man. glad to help. yeah the car looks to be in good nick in the pics. don't see many mk2s on an A plate. one of the first ones made. keep up the good work man.
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jeez you wouldn't think it was same car. looks great. stick some 15inch wheels on. 17s are way to big for a mk2 I think.
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yeah I thought that too! just looks like a new car, the wheels are far too big also, I am either going to get 15's or 16's, ordered some of the original lights also as I think the smoked tail lights make it look too dark haha
steering wheel is here tomorrow or Wednesday so I will finally be able to move it haha
thanks
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I always think pressed German plates look good. You should look into it.
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Only small progress today, took off rear bumper splitter(now for sale)
Finished the tcut
Fixed door cards so they aren't loose
Bought some original mk2 lights to replace smokes ones (smoked lights now for sale on here and eBay)
Now backtoblacking arches and bumpers
Not much progrss as no parts have tuned up yet
May buy a stereo tomorrow
Will upload pics of its interior and exterior state
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bought a stereo and will be here Wednesday, steering wheels here Wednesday, lights here tomorrow.
ive got a question though, what the f*ck is this?
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umm a mess by the looks of it lol. is it something to do with an alarm?
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umm a mess by the looks of it lol. is it something to do with an alarm?
definitely a mess!! it says on the back of the 'block' "can be re microwaved"
it has wires going into it from all sorts of places so.. I think its just a bodge job block someones put in to keep all the wires in.. because at least 70% of the wires from the battery are going into that 'block' so I think the previous owner put it there whilst it was jelly and put the wires in there and then just let it set.. as the amplifier and sub wire is going through it.. and if it was an alarm it wouldn't need to be connected to the sub and amp haha.. i have no idea, i don't want to break the block incase i ruin all the wires inside.. as i don't know whats in it!!
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oh some people eh. its very bluepeter lol. to be honest I would try get rid of that an start again. or trim of the wires that aint in use. quite a clever idea though I have to admit.
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bought a stereo and will be here Wednesday, steering wheels here Wednesday, lights here tomorrow.
ive got a question though, what the f*ck is this?
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OMG - Good luck sorting that bobbins out!
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it is a good idea.. but it'd be good if it was done properly and everything was wired up.... i want to salvage as much of the wires as possible i am unsure how to break it open....
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Most of them shouldn't be there in the 1st place...
But who knows why they are there now... Tread carefully...
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Most of them shouldn't be there in the 1st place...
But who knows why they are there now... Tread carefully...
i'll find a way im sure, even if it means carving off piece by piece haha
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it already has a rear disc conversion, weber carb with manual choke, lowered on coilovers. very solid underneath and no sign of any rust.
so much planned for it, full restore of interior, tidy up of exterior and fresh paint, new wheels and arches(arches are cracked) bigger engine in the future. so much planned
lots of pics to be uploaded, as will need advice and help.
thanks
got a st of 90 spec arches is very good condition if u interested
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Possibly relays inside that for headlights? Seen something like that before
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I'm not sure if its ingenious or really dumb. Keep all the connections locked up, using a tupawear container filled with jelly.
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it already has a rear disc conversion, weber carb with manual choke, lowered on coilovers. very solid underneath and no sign of any rust.
so much planned for it, full restore of interior, tidy up of exterior and fresh paint, new wheels and arches(arches are cracked) bigger engine in the future. so much planned
lots of pics to be uploaded, as will need advice and help.
thanks
got a st of 90 spec arches is very good condition if u interested
how much mate?
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done!!!!
took it all out and broke it up with a hammer and chisel to be safe instead of just smashing it, all it had inside was some relays(I think) and some wires, sub+amp wire was in there pointlessly and was only wiring for lights thank god. ive now re wired the lights and for now there just taped to my battery until I find a way to get them tucked away somewhere, I also rewired up my door card speakers as the wire had snapped..
took pics of what I was doing
breaking the 'box'
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box broken
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rewired
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works better than before I'd say, lights seem a lot brighter
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it already has a rear disc conversion, weber carb with manual choke, lowered on coilovers. very solid underneath and no sign of any rust.
so much planned for it, full restore of interior, tidy up of exterior and fresh paint, new wheels and arches(arches are cracked) bigger engine in the future. so much planned
lots of pics to be uploaded, as will need advice and help.
thanks
got a st of 90 spec arches is very good condition if u interested
Hold up I'm interested aswell
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at a glance I would say it already has 90 spec arches/sill covers and bumpers on it.
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I thought that just after I replied aha
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yeah it looks identical to my 90 gti. btw take a look in mk4 golf section and go to"knocking when turning" and check out the pic at reply number 9. I think its hilarious.
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yeah it looks identical to my 90 gti. btw take a look in mk4 golf section and go to"knocking when turning" and check out the pic at reply number 9. I think its hilarious.
hahahaha yeah that is pretty funny!!
stuff should be here in the morning, stereo, steering wheel and new lights
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I bought this stereo the other day and it came today, and im very unsure how to fit it as its not as easy as just plugging it in because of how old the car is
need some help/advice, I understand where the power cable goes but unsure on other wires..
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Have you got a live tester. The stereo wires split up basically into two halves. it's the brown, green, purple, white half (solid and striped) which is the speaker wires and correlates to front right and left and rear right and left. The other half of the wires are earth, constant live and ignition live. I'm trying to remember them all without looking, a live tester is kinda needed, you could link a bulb with some wires to make a tester, then just earth one wire and use the other wire to test for live, if the bulb comes on its a live wire.
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Looks like someone has wired in an Amp at some point. Is it still there?
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Unless your using some big speakers don't wire to the amp as you lose all ability to set fade and bass etc from the head unit. My amp only powers the sub
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That wiring looks like it was to a 4 way amp & all the speaker wiring looks like it will need redoing...
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Looks like the power wires are connected in the upside down pic. Just need to connect earth.And the switched live and permanent are twisted together so it should turn on and then you can work out speaker wires.
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got it all working eventually, the standard wires for the stereo are all tangled and wrong, and the sub and amp and speaker wires are everywhere, I blew 2 fuses getting this thing working, and when I did get it working it never turned off so I need to make my own wire going to the ignition switch. I need an adapter for the sub and the amp as I only have 2 ports on the stereo so not everything can be plugged in, and when it did work it just kept cutting out, then I put it in my mates car and worked fine and sounded great!!! so what im going to do is,
replace fuses in fuse box as most of them are shot
new sub+amp and speakers
new wiring, start from scratch as original wiring is sh!t
wire vdo gauges in when get sub and amp
just rewire most things in and around my dash board to make them a lot tidier and so they actually work..
makes sense to me
also had the steering wheel on yesterday and spent most of the day driving it about, pulls and goes very well for a 1.3
pulled away quicker than a 1.6 ztec fiesta.. geabox is good, no second gear crunch, clutch is good, brakes are rubbish though as one of my discs are warped an the other discs are rusty. new discs and pads on the list to buy also!
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When I got my golf the front right disc was massively warped, felt like driving down a train track when you tried to brake haha
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I was just driving and when I braked I was bouncing haha, and even when I took my foot off the accelerator I was just bouncing about haha, more expensive for me to replace discs and pads because of the rear disc conversion
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maybe its not coilovers on your car but air suspension lol. have you given up on the vdo,s for now?
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maybe its not coilovers on your car but air suspension lol. have you given up on the vdo,s for now?
waiting for payday to come then buying all the kit to fit them, as I had a wedding to go to and I kinda spent my savings on a hotel room and drinks for me and my girlfriend haha, spent around 150 in a night........... shocking
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nothing new to tell anyone about the golf.. no progress over this weekend.
have a problem though, to sort out my brakes, I need the locking wheel nut.. but I don't have it haha how am I supposed to remove the nut to get my wheels off, I cannot find it anywhere online either
must be a cheats way of getting it off.
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You could always use a massive grinder to chop away parts of your wheel surrounding the locking nut. Pull the wheel straight off, you just need to buy another wheel with a similar hole so you can bolt that on.
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what I usually do with them blighters is weld a big lump of weld to the locking nut. and while it is still red hot tap a socket over it. usually comes lose very easily. or try cracking it free with a hammer and chisel. once they start turning your good to go.
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what I usually do with them blighters is weld a big lump of weld to the locking nut. and while it is still red hot tap a socket over it. usually comes lose very easily. or try cracking it free with a hammer and chisel. once they start turning your good to go.
good idea, ive been thinking of ideas all day of how to get it off haha
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there a darn nuisance them things. especially when the customers have no idea where they are or even what they look like lol. there a lot of time wasted hunting around the car for the wheel nut keys when there is a service to be getting on with. yeah get a welder on to them and preserve your sanity lol.
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there a darn nuisance them things. especially when the customers have no idea where they are or even what they look like lol. there a lot of time wasted hunting around the car for the wheel nut keys when there is a service to be getting on with. yeah get a welder on to them and preserve your sanity lol.
exactly, ive been wanting to get on with the golf but this is stopping my doing so much haha, cant drive it as the pads just stuck to the disc now, and I believe my wheel bearing is knackered, I also need to check if my speedo works as when I drove it next I think it was reading the wrong speed and was bouncing up and down haha..
its really frustrating me
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welcome to the joys of motoring lol. it might not be your wheel bearing that's gone. could just be your brakes making the noise. your speedo might be slightly out with the bigger wheels fitted and the cable might be broken or binding. take the cable off and run some 3in1 oil through it. that might free it up. btw is that your car on the vimto tv ad? lol
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welcome to the joys of motoring lol. it might not be your wheel bearing that's gone. could just be your brakes making the noise. your speedo might be slightly out with the bigger wheels fitted and the cable might be broken or binding. take the cable off and run some 3in1 oil through it. that might free it up. btw is that your car on the vimto tv ad? lol
yeahh could be that, i'll give that a try today.
haha what? the vimto ad with the fruits in the car with the hydraulics? haha nahh that's not mine lol
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seriously getting fed up of the mk2 now, I knew the carpet was ruined but.. underneath there is just loads of sh!t like wires and crap all over the place.. so that's a new carpet which isn't cheap
I have barely any relays.. and I don't think I have a relay for my headlights (unsure if ones needed) but there is just wiring on top of my battery so that's just another problem wiring it up to the dash relay, they work fine! but they cant just sit on my battery forever
fog lights don't work, think its because it has no relay
the oem lights I bought off ebay haven't turned up yet, they were meant to be here last Thursday..
new grille as mines held on by cable ties
speaker and stereo wiring needs to be re-done as its shoddy and doesn't work as when I turn on my heater you can hear it through my sub..
g60 arches and skirts aren't on properly
new seats as mine are ripped
door cards to match with door card trim such as handles and wing mirror bellows
interior light needs re wiring and a bulb
boot carpet
gas struts for boot
4 new discs and pads for each disc
new wheels as the 17's are far to big and reduces turning circle and they feel heavy
dent and scratch on passenger side door and rear panel (not that bad)
speedo doesn't work, neither does clock
vdo gauges need wiring
side indicator is hanging out, and there is random wires in and around the fuse box
I just don't know where to start or what to do with it!!
seems like such a colossal job for someone who works part time and is still at college
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Your list looks almost as long as mine when I got my mk2. Seriously writing a list is the hardest part. Once you get to crossing stuff off you start to feel better about it. Once you find a way to get the locking nut off the discs and pads is easy, cross that off the list. The seats in a mk2 come out in about a minute. Once they are out trying steam cleaning your carpets to see if that helps. At the same time run all your rear speaker and sub wires under the carpets and wire it up- cross that off. Indicators are just plastic with a hook. The indicator and gas struts can be found at a scrappy- cross that off.
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Nothing major on that list...
The Joys of having a 20+ year old car...
Welcome to Classic Car Ownership...
You have to expect things will need doing, but nothing there that is terminal, bit of time and patience will see most jobs done without to much expense.
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Your list looks almost as long as mine when I got my mk2. Seriously writing a list is the hardest part. Once you get to crossing stuff off you start to feel better about it. Once you find a way to get the locking nut off the discs and pads is easy, cross that off the list. The seats in a mk2 come out in about a minute. Once they are out trying steam cleaning your carpets to see if that helps. At the same time run all your rear speaker and sub wires under the carpets and wire it up- cross that off. Indicators are just plastic with a hook. The indicator and gas struts can be found at a scrappy- cross that off.
all very true, its just getting the parts for cheap enough and doing and repairing it properly, my local scrappy has no old vw's so they are hopeless,my carpet looks as thought it doesn't fit my car lol.. its loose and shows the actual shell of the car.. my biggest worry is my interior and my wiring.. those 2 things are probably the biggest job.. I may take it to a vw specialist my step dad knows that's local and see if he can help or has any spares.
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main job is getting wiring done and everything to get it past its MOT then things are easier
luckily its mechanically fine haha, gearbox and clutch are good and engine runs fine, only thing is that I have a weber carb, on idle it sits on 500rpm, but ive read it should be on around 700-800rpm
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hey man. it may be a big list but its lots of small jobs. don't go giving up on it. you should get it sorted for mot and on road then finish it off at your leisure. like a rolling restoration lol. oh btw the headlights don't have relays. but they do work a bit better with them and it takes a bit of load of the light switch.
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hey man. it may be a big list but its lots of small jobs. don't go giving up on it. you should get it sorted for mot and on road then finish it off at your leisure. like a rolling restoration lol. oh btw the headlights don't have relays. but they do work a bit better with them and it takes a bit of load of the light switch.
oh well that's helpful haha! I don't know where to put my wiring though its still just sitting on my battery...
decision of the day is to take off the gti bumpers and arches and have small bumpers on there..
considering mines a 1.3 haha some may call it a fake gti or a rep
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I don't understand your wiring. Off my battery positive I have the main lead then only 3 or so wires. One for sub, the alternator exciter wire and something else small. What have you got coming off your battery?
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this is the top of my battery
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What are those red boxes on top. That thing is a mess
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I wonder if they are for an upgraded headlight loom. 2 relays = 1 for each light or like the one I fitted which had 2 one of the headlights & one for the inner spot lights. I fitted mine to the inner wing next to the battery with trim/number plate tape.
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haha I told you!!! I really need to tidy it up and sort it out, just don't know what to do? any ideas
also considering taking off my gti arches and big bumpers and get some small bumpers for it..
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it could be a relay for main beam and one for dip. or both for main. I would just do away with them and put some of them fancy blue bulbs. got them in mine and they give a much whiter light with the same power. think they were made by ring.
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it could be a relay for main beam and one for dip. or both for main. I would just do away with them and put some of them fancy blue bulbs. got them in mine and they give a much whiter light with the same power. think they were made by ring.
Even better - Use Both....
Nightbreaker Bulbs!!
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i think they are draining my battery too also..... being connected directly from the battery, literally you could plug the headlight bulbs into either of the 2 and it wont make a difference, baring in mind that the fogs are connected to them also and no power gets to the fogs.
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pay day Friday, new wheels, maybe bumpers(small bumper conversion), headlight wiring loom(uprated) vdo guage loom (possibly) rear lights will be here. then some small bits and bobs for interior to tidy it up, depending how much i have left after that, may invest in a new grille or 4 discs and pads.
big things coming soon. slow progress as lack of money.
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I would advise not to rush. I get bored when there isn't something to do. Spending so much time working on it a mk2 is half the fun. It's also nice when others notice the rolling project progression.
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haha im not rushing!! ive got to have it sorted before September for MOT to get it on the road haha! so ive only got 2 pay days left including this months!!
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haha im not rushing!! ive got to have it sorted before September for MOT to get it on the road haha! so ive only got 2 pay days left including this months!!
Half the stuff you need to sort won't cost money!
You have to prioritise what needs sorting and what doesn't.
Front Grille not important for MOT, Nor are the VDO's, Small bumpers Etc... Stick to the important stuff 1st, rest can wait.
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haha im not rushing!! ive got to have it sorted before September for MOT to get it on the road haha! so ive only got 2 pay days left including this months!!
Half the stuff you need to sort won't cost money!
You have to prioritise what needs sorting and what doesn't.
Front Grille not important for MOT, Nor are the VDO's, Small bumpers Etc... Stick to the important stuff 1st, rest can wait.
This. An MOT is a safety check, it just checks vital systems and lights; Focus on these for September. An MOT is only valid the day it's done, after that you have a full year to do whatever you want.
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haha im not rushing!! ive got to have it sorted before September for MOT to get it on the road haha! so ive only got 2 pay days left including this months!!
Half the stuff you need to sort won't cost money!
You have to prioritise what needs sorting and what doesn't.
Front Grille not important for MOT, Nor are the VDO's, Small bumpers Etc... Stick to the important stuff 1st, rest can wait.
This. An MOT is a safety check, it just checks vital systems and lights; Focus on these for September. An MOT is only valid the day it's done, after that you have a full year to do whatever you want.
that's very true I just checked whats will be checked on my mot
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got my lock and wheel nut off today though! so that's a positive
wheel bearings, 4 discs and pads and wheels to sort out, may just get my self a set of banded steels with tyres instead of buying tyres for the wheels I have already got that are 17's and flaking and scuffed..
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but yet again people seem to say bandeds are illegal and they are dangerous
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I think my exhaust is blowing, my middle box, but im not 100%sure, is there anything I can do to find out?
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I think my exhaust is blowing, my middle box, but im not 100%sure, is there anything I can do to find out?
Get underneath and see, listen & feel (Without touching!!)
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ive done that but im still unsure! is there not a test I can do? like a powder or paper or water ?
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hi for the exhaust check if you get someone to block the tailpipe when engine running and you have a look underneath you will soon find it. there will usually be some black soot on the exhaust where it is blowing anyway. as for banded steels they are only as safe as the person that welded them. personally I would steer well clear.
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thanks mate that's helpful that'll keep my busy tomorrow morning
yeahh I read on numerous places online, been looking at some Cades.. the cades blast in white 15" think the blue would go well with the blue I have??
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Checking for leaks in winter is nice and easy because of the steam effect. In summer you just have to feel around the joins without touching to feel the air.
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if im right I have a slight blow in my middle box!! best thing to do is to replace it?? correct me if im wrong
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yeah just stick a new 1 on or you could get a straight pipe and do away with the centre box (they don't do much anyway). or if your planning an engine swap any time soon you should think about an upgrade as the standard 1.3 exhaust is kinda small bore.
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It wouldn't pass the mot with the straight through though would it? I could just buy a new middle box silencer for the mot and just stick it on each time my mot comes about, I wasn't planning any engine conversions any time soon, was thinking about getting a new system though, the exhaust I want and have seen online.. isn't for sale anywhere.... haha i'll post a pic
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its the upswept single exhaust?? if you know which exhaust I mean.. saves me putting up pics
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if I remember right the 1.3 and 1.6 exhaust are the same or very similar. and then the 1.8 carb and gti are larger bore and three boxes. yeah you could just stick on a new centre box. they are pretty cheap anyway.
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I don't recall seeing 1 like that anywhere before. could have been a home brew. I think that guy needs to tighten his rear wheel bearing lol.
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You can pass an mot just fine without a centre box like I have. Depending on where it is blowing though you might not need one. If its on a straight bit of pipe, get a tin can, 2 jubilee clips and some fire gum. If its on the seam for the box just weld it up again.
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oh fair enough then, i'll sort it out in the next week or so
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I have been looking in and around my door cards, and I don't have any door lock pins.. so I just have holes
there is no rod in there to put the pin onto?? ive looked everywhere and I cant find any.. I don't have central locking either.
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set of Porsche d90's on ebay with adaptors+tyres currently £100... so tempting to bid haha
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Door pins just nick from the scrappy. All the vw ones are the same.
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my scrappys useless, he never has any vw's
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I feel your pain. My favourite scrappy got shut down. It had cars stacked 3 high but you just climbed up and ripped out what you needed.
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im friends with the guys grandson who owns it.. everytime he gets a vw in he gets in contact but by the time I get there to salvage parts... they are gone haha
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just like piranha fish over a dead duck lol
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haha yeah definitely agree
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need a whole new stereo wiring loom.. where can I get one? nee to re wire the whole thing, ive wasted money on numerous things and it still doesn't work.. if someone has a loom for sale or knows a lot about the stereos in golfs then let me know.
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hey man. what sort of sound system you got planned?
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Get a new exhaust and forget the sound system :cool:
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I've already got a sub and amp wired in with 2 door card speakers. Getting parcel shelf speakers. My head unit is a pioneer(a post about it on here) but the wiring to go into the pioneer ISP lead is all f*cked and short and ruined and the stereo doesn't turn off.. I need a lead that goes from the 2 output cables into the Iso lead and sort my earth wire and sort out the wires that actually switch it on and off as its currently permanently on.. So I thought the easiest best thing to do is re wire it up to the pioneer head unit iso.. Blown too many fuses trying to wire it up..
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What I would do for now is just unplug the amp from the battery. You wire the amp using phono wires (red and white) which easy easy and can be ignored. You will wire the parcel shelf and door speakers using the white, purple ect. Now that those can all be ignored focus on your remaining wires. There should be 4 and have there own pin on the head unit. Ou will need a constant live, a switch live and an earth, that is all. The blue wire can be ignored but is sometimes used to add a aerial booster.
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Mine stayed on when crossover relay died and fusebox had enough of getting wet.
Used to get in car and the head unit would be on
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Wiring is jut so complicated!!!!!!!!! :shocked:
I have a thread on my stereo wiring problems, may take it to a vw specialist I know that's local and ask for a hand.. Unless I work it out!
Plenty of things bought over last month
Bad news is, I lost my job :cry:
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Oh no, how come?
Even a halfords guy would be able to do your stereo, have you isolated the important wires?
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May just speak to a local vw specialist I know and see what he says
If you've seen the other thread about my stereo, you can run me through it haha!
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if you went for a basic head unit and 4 speakers. you would only need to join up 8 speaker wires and power and earth. oh and aerial cable.
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Sorry but It's not rocket science - a few wires and its sorted..
If you cant wire in a stereo what are you doing with a Classic car!
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ive wired it in before.. but it doesn't turn off when you turn off the ignition.. read what people have said about permanent lives and switched lives and all sorts, but I cant find a way for it to turn off
then I realised when I turn my heater on.. you can hear it coming through my speakers......
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Try the cross over relay, swap it with known working one.
It cuts power to stereo whilst cranking.
Mine went and my head unit turned itself on and I lost heater and cig lighter ( if the fuse s lasted long enough)
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you should have a permanent live to keep your radio station settings and a live switched on and off from ignition barrel to turn unit on and off. usually yellow and red but cant remember which goes where. mine is just wired so I have to switch it on and off at head unit. soon get used to it.
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ive got a yellow and red wire going together connecting to 1 wire.. so the perm live and the switched live go into what? where is the best place to earth from the stereo wiring also?
whats the black wire also??
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well basically the black wire from the stereo goes to earth. the red one is a permanent live and the yellow should connect to ignition switch and power up when key turned. can you get up a clear pic off all the loose wires behind your stereo (on the car loom)?
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I also have a brown one too.. there many wires..
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jeez that's quite a bit of spaghetti you got there lol. I would say the 3 on the top left are (brown/earth. red/permanent live. blue and white/ignition switch live) the 8 wires your holding are for your 4 speakers but they don't look like they are going to any speakers? I would test the 3 wires on the top left just to confirm them. and check inside dash to see if there is more wires there (coming from your speakers).
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the 2 blue ones are sub(on the right, the inputs) and the red and black ones are for the other speakers in the car, for the door card speakers and parcel shelfs. the small blue one next to earth is to the sub also, but I have to put the inputs into the stereo but only 2 can go in.. so then the sub wires cant go into the stereo.. so where the brown connector thing is at the bottom I need something to connect that to the normal speakers into the red nd black cable.. but its just finding an 8 pin connector..
if you understand me..
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Brown plug is Iso to plug straight into head unit wires. This isn't standard cos its too old.
If you wanted you could cut the plug off head unit wires and join to factory wires its only there to make fitting easy and to make halfords staff look like pros.
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cut the brown thing off then connect the wires to what???
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Actually looking at pic it looks like black plug would of gone in head unit different to what you have and somebody has cut one of the Iso plugs off.
I'd get anew Iso from halfords and redo it. The brown plug would be speaker wires and plug straight in to factory wires IF somebody else has wired an Iso in. There must be some wires in dash still.
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there is another plug that goes from the black plug in the photo into the head unit, and that's new and came with the new stereo.. whats in the photo is what I had when I bought the car.. that iso lead there is from Halfords and hasn't been cut at all
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You will normally get a plug that goes into the head unit but then on the end of that after some short wiring a big female plug that has room for two plugs. One plug is for for speakers while the other will be the lives and earth. You need to test the your live wires to find a ignition live and solid live. Wire the red wire from your head unit to solid live and the yellow to the switch live, this means you need the ignition on to turn the stereo on but it will turn off when you remove the key. Have you got some sort of live tester? It will remove the trial and error of wiring it up and turn it into a 5 min job.
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ahh I understand what you mean. I have no tester either haha so it'll probably take a long time..
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Car is now up for sale, can't fund the project anymore:(
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What?!?! If the car runs then just have a rolling project like I'm doing. As long as the main stuff needed to drive is ok (engine, electrics, brakes, suspension and steering) then just keep it going.
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Did you get the MOT done?
If the car is on the road and costing you money to insure and drive, but you have no income, then maybe sell it.
But if the car is off the road and not costing you anything in insurance or petrol, I would suggest you keep it.
1) while you are out of work, you can use the free time productively to sort out the no-cost issues (like stereo wiring)
2) you probably won't make back your money and if you sell it you'll have to spend more to buy another car later on
3) you'll want a car once you're working again and you might as well keep this one.
I went through the same dilemma with my first Mk2. I bought it when I had a job, ran it for a year or so, then ended up on job seekers allowance, but I kept it because a) I would need it for going for interviews b) if I sold it, I wouldn't be able to afford another for sometime and c) it gave me independance.
(but I managed this because I was living at home and my parents helped cover my insurance for the 4-5 months I was out of work).
Stick with it. If you have no money for the car, keep it off road and fix the things that don't cost money. Take the seats and carpets out, borrow a wet-vac from someone or just scrub the thing clean. While the carpet is out, pull out all the stereo wiring, including the amp and sub and start that from scratch (I would start by getting the stereo working without the sub first, just get it doing the right thing with the dash/door speakers, then wire in the rears, then add the sub).
A Mk2 is worth keeping (trust me, I wish I still had mine). Keep it up.