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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: whileoceanasleeps on 07 February 2013, 18:47
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so I fitted my £20 eBay chip today (got a deal) and went for a spin... such a great cheap mod! feels smoother all round through the revs, response is better and power seems a smigin better too. not seen any mpg benefit yet as I was pushing hard :)
overall very happy tho, would recommend :cool:
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Who did you get it from? Been toying with getting one for a while now
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http://bit.ly/14WkrQS
from here.. well worth it for the price
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How long did delivery take?
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about a week or so
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£20 chip? Says £42 on the ad? :huh:
Did this chip affect your limiter? I,e raise the limiter?
My old 1.4 golf only revved to 5.5k, when i got my new one it goes to 7.5k i think.
So was thinking maybe my car had already been chipped, but not sure where the standard limiter on a GTI is.
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£20 chip? Says £42 on the ad? :huh:
Did this chip affect your limiter? I,e raise the limiter?
My old 1.4 golf only revved to 5.5k, when i got my new one it goes to 7.5k i think.
So was thinking maybe my car had already been chipped, but not sure where the standard limiter on a GTI is.
A 16v revs to 6800rpm. Revving a 1.4 to 7500rpm is about as pointless as a nun with huge tits. You're only going to end up wasting fuel. After round about 5000rpm the 1.4 is going to start running out of puff, anything over that is just wasting fuel.
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£20 chip? Says £42 on the ad? :huh:
Did this chip affect your limiter? I,e raise the limiter?
My old 1.4 golf only revved to 5.5k, when i got my new one it goes to 7.5k i think.
So was thinking maybe my car had already been chipped, but not sure where the standard limiter on a GTI is.
A 16v revs to 6800rpm. Revving a 1.4 to 7500rpm is about as pointless as a nun with huge tits. You're only going to end up wasting fuel. After round about 5000rpm the 1.4 is going to start running out of puff, anything over that is just wasting fuel.
yeah but a nun with huge tits is still great to look at :p
yeah it raises the limiter although I haven't gone far over 7k yet. I bought a chip for my 8v but didn't get to fit it before I crashed it so I messaged him to ask to swap and buy instead be kindly sold me one for 20.
how was the drive of the 'chipped' 1.4 compared to the other unchipped one?
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Sorry, forgot to say "my new one" isn't a 1.4, its a 2.0l 8v GTI. My fault for leaving that out, was still asleep haha. So i assume because a 16v revs to 6800, that my 8v should rev somewhere just below that. So the fact my car is actually revving to 7500 means its most likely been chipped?
And oh i see, i thought you'd made an offer and he'd accepted less then half price haha.
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Sorry, forgot to say "my new one" isn't a 1.4, its a 2.0l 8v GTI. My fault for leaving that out, was still asleep haha. So i assume because a 16v revs to 6800, that my 8v should rev somewhere just below that. So the fact my car is actually revving to 7500 means its most likely been chipped?
And oh i see, i thought you'd made an offer and he'd accepted less then half price haha.
Even an 8v gti will run out of puff around 5500rpm, check out my old engine.
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/dynochart1-1.jpg)
And this was with a kent cam.
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/RtechUKdynochart-1.jpg)
As you can see, 7500 in an 8v is a waste of fuel. On a 16v it'd be good, as it holds power to the limiter.
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/2013-02-02152049_zpscf38ac4a.jpg)
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So is this chip the same as the one Khare has got in his?
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It would appear to be the same as we have. I assume you made a really low offer to get it for £20?
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Even an 8v gti will run out of puff around 5500rpm, check out my old engine.
Really, thats a bit of a bummer. But like i said, possibility my car has been chipped, surely if it had been chipped then it would make it last a little big longer passed 5500?
Somebody fancy telling me what a standard 8v gti is supposed to rev to?
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I think 6200 is the limiter for the standard 8v engine. Chipped you might find another 100 or 200 rpm in the powerband but it won't be a massive difference. It's the nature of 8v.
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Oh really, strange that my car revs 1300rpm above that then :/ id think if it was a chip made specifically for my car it would only add that extra 100-200 you say. Otherwise all the rest its adding is just pointless :/
Eitherways i knew i wouldn't get big performance out of my 8v, just bought it because didn't fancy having to swap insurance companies to UK insurance just to get a 16v or VR.
Edit: To be fair not like revving to 7500rpm matters at the moment as it only revs to 5000rpm since a garage fitted a new cambelt and "distributor amplifier" yesterday :undecided:
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Oh really, strange that my car revs 1300rpm above that then :/ id think if it was a chip made specifically for my car it would only add that extra 100-200 you say. Otherwise all the rest its adding is just pointless :/
Eitherways i knew i wouldn't get big performance out of my 8v, just bought it because didn't fancy having to swap insurance companies to UK insurance just to get a 16v or VR.
Edit: To be fair not like revving to 7500rpm matters at the moment as it only revs to 5000rpm since a garage fitted a new cambelt and "distributor amplifier" yesterday :undecided:
if you we're thinking of getting a 16v you should check with your insurer and you may be surprised.. my insurance was the same 8v to 16
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It would appear to be the same as we have. I assume you made a really low offer to get it for £20?
offer? :huh: I wanted to trade my unused 8v chip for a 16v one but he doesn't accept returns so he offered me one for £20
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I wish! Haha, im only 19. No one will touch me on a 16v until im 21, and the few that would want some serious ££.
I'm better off sticking to this car, get a few more years ncb, then when i hit 21, stick a 16v engine in there.
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It would appear to be the same as we have. I assume you made a really low offer to get it for £20?
offer? :huh: I wanted to trade my unused 8v chip for a 16v one but he doesn't accept returns so he offered me one for £20
That wasn't a bad turn out then. Yeah auction listing always says the buy it now price as well as rhe option to make an offer. IIRC i got mine for £35 or something around that mark due to making an offer instead.
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Can't you just sell the 8v one on for peanuts now?
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sold it for £20 :grin:
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Oh really, strange that my car revs 1300rpm above that then :/ id think if it was a chip made specifically for my car it would only add that extra 100-200 you say. Otherwise all the rest its adding is just pointless :/
Eitherways i knew i wouldn't get big performance out of my 8v, just bought it because didn't fancy having to swap insurance companies to UK insurance just to get a 16v or VR.
Edit: To be fair not like revving to 7500rpm matters at the moment as it only revs to 5000rpm since a garage fitted a new cambelt and "distributor amplifier" yesterday :undecided:
Your timing is out, Get it sorted :shocked:
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I already know. Told them it was out, but they said if its out then it wouldn't start and its more likely something to do with the distributor that needs adjusting.
Eitherways its already booked in to get sorted.
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My chip arrived today and when i opened up the ecu there was a chrome plate in it i need to remove. Iv took the back cover off but looks like its solderd to the board. Did u have this? And how did u get it off i u did. Just dont want to start tuggin on it, if it is solderd
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My chip arrived today and when i opened up the ecu there was a chrome plate in it i need to remove. Iv took the back cover off but looks like its solderd to the board. Did u have this? And how did u get it off i u did. Just dont want to start tuggin on it, if it is solderd
do you mean the chrome cover is soldered? if so heat up the joins with a soldering iron and use a jeweller's flat head to carefully prise it apart. then if your chip is soldered in then take it to a local car tuner. he'll be able to take the old one out and solder the new one in as it's pretty small and fiddly. I got quoted £50 to do this, didn't get it done tho. good luck!
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Cool. Will have a go tomorow. Looking at the chip iv got it looks like a pushin.
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If it's square it's an 8v chip, if it's rectangular it's a 16v chip.
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are all 16vs pop in? dont wanna buy one if i have to faff about soldering stuff?
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I would've thought the only chip worth buying for an 8v is one you can eat..
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are all 16vs pop in? dont wanna buy one if i have to faff about soldering stuff?
yep pretty sure they are
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are all 16vs pop in? dont wanna buy one if i have to faff about soldering stuff?
Yes 16v are all push fit
Nice sig btw :cool:
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Are these chips really worth it? I have a vr6, what benefits would I get once fitted?
To anyone that has done this already, how about a to do guide with some pics, they always speak a thousand words.
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Are these chips really worth it? I have a vr6, what benefits would I get once fitted?
To anyone that has done this already, how about a to do guide with some pics, they always speak a thousand words.
not sure about a vr but is imagine it would give you similar benefits to the 16v chip.. drivability is better and smoother, better response, more power and sometimes better mpg although I'm yet to drive sensibly enough to see it yet :)
I'd imagine there would be a how to if you search the net..
in a nutshell do this though (piece of pisss to install)
1. disconnect battery
2. remove black plastic trim under right hand side of bonnet between engine and windscreen, a couple of x-head plastic screws
3. ecu is to the left of cabin filter
4. remove 2 10mm nuts
5. pull out ecu
6. pull back plastic cover exposing the loom plug
7. pull off air hose if you have one
8. pull ecu plug out
9. remove 4 torx screws and 2 x-head screws and pull circuit board out
10. unclip chrome cover
11. pull out old chip
12. push in new chip
13. reverse for re-install
simples :)
comes with instructions too
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Can I point out battery needs to be disconnected from BOTH TERMINALS! and leave half hour disconnected before unplugging the ECU.
Otherwise this happens
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/DSC04140.jpg)
Thankfully I managed to repair it properly and it's been fine since.
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are all 16vs pop in? dont wanna buy one if i have to faff about soldering stuff?
Yes 16v are all push fit
Nice sig btw :cool:
Cheers done abit of work over the weekend, and got a nice 16v badge of a kind member on here :wink:
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Can I point out battery needs to be disconnected from BOTH TERMINALS! and leave half hour disconnected before unplugging the ECU.
Otherwise this happens
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/DSC04140.jpg)
Thankfully I managed to repair it properly and it's been fine since.
you've worried me a little :shocked:
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Can I point out battery needs to be disconnected from BOTH TERMINALS! and leave half hour disconnected before unplugging the ECU.
Otherwise this happens
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/DSC04140.jpg)
Thankfully I managed to repair it properly and it's been fine since.
you've worried me a little :shocked:
you'll be fine mate as long as you follow the instructions. I disconnected both and pulled the ecu out right away and had no problems whatsoever.
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so how and what do these chips do? cant understand how its gives you more power? surley you need a balanced fuel and AIR mixture? :undecided:
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Khare should have known better!
It has been said many, many times on here that if you are doing any electrical work then disconnect for at least 15 minutes.
Disconnect completely! Both terminals and make sure those terminals an not touching any metal of the car.
This applies to things like air-bag removal.
This will also reset the ecu as well.
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so how and what do these chips do? cant understand how its gives you more power? surley you need a balanced fuel and AIR mixture? :undecided:
The standard fuel/air mix is set lean and so is the ignition.
So the chip changes both for the better.
Not all chips are the same and some like mine dont give the same power.
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Some people need to learn for about eletronics and plugs.
Air bag is fine to disconnect while battery is connected.
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surely you disconnect the battery for the airbag to release the charge so it doesn't go off in your face?
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The air bag needs a signal from the ignitor and that will need a signal from a sensor and this will need power from the ignition so I very much doubt the airbag could ever accidently go off ,but still knowing this I allways disconnect the battery :grin:
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i just did this to my mk3 vr6. cheapest mod ever!
i got a handy elec guy to solder in a socket as my original chip was soldered to the board.
i also had to get vagcommed to get the factory immobiliser to adapt to the new chip
a definite improvement in the lower revs range (2-3500). ive done a pod filter and a CAI, extractors, and a 2.5in exhaust. but this chip was the biggest "seat of your pants" feeling mod!
no petrols figures yet, but im certain it will be less. the tune seems to be a little leaner, as the car doesnt pop and fart as much hopping off the gas.
that said, im driving it harder, so fuel consumption could be worse! :)
highly recommended
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Some people need to learn for about eletronics and plugs.
Air bag is fine to disconnect while battery is connected.
It is recommended to disconnect. If you want to risk serious injury by not doing so then go ahead!
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Actually if you read a Haynes manual it tells you to disconnect the battery if you are doing any electrical related work!
Bit excessive for plugs/leads etc and changing fuses/relays.