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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: GTi Grez on 03 December 2012, 19:25

Title: Car is in bits in a garage and need gearbox to get it back!
Post by: GTi Grez on 03 December 2012, 19:25
So, the story goes, took car to our usual meet on the Sunday and it drove fine etc. Took it out the Monday evening and the clutch was slipping like crazy and couldnt get over 2,000rpm. Anyway after a little poking around with clutch cables and auto adjusters blah blah the smell of gearbox oil was strong and low and behold a quick check underneath revealed a drip from the flywheel housing.

I drove it to Mr Clutch in Manchester this morning, everything fine apart from slipping clutch. I was told a new clutch and a seal would sort it out.

They called me back a few hours later to say the mount onto the subframe was cracked and also the box had something wrong with it!!  :sad:

So long story short I'm racking my brains out on options of how to
a) find and buy a gearbox
b) get it to the garage without another vehicle of my own
c) do it all whilst timeframe is sh!te!

SO anyone out there with a gearbox for a 1995 mk3 Golf Gti 8v PLEASE get in touch asap or please advise me any places you know that might have some gearboxes. Ive tried....maybe you can help??

Thanks guys and gals
Title: Re: Car is in bits in a garage and need gearbox to get it back!
Post by: VW BUSH on 03 December 2012, 19:55
Sounds fishy to me....

Don't understand the mount being cracked, maybe they mean the arm which bolts up to the GB mount
Either way a mount is £15 and the arm can be had from a scrappy for less.
They also need to quantify what the "something" is that is wrong with the gearbox.

What spooked me is the name MR Clutch :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: Car is in bits in a garage and need gearbox to get it back!
Post by: MereKat on 03 December 2012, 20:01

What spooked me is the name MR Clutch :lipsrsealed:

I was gunna say, take someone who knows what they are looking at...then tell Clutch-o to put the car back together and you'll sort it yourself! The car made it there fine....

Mr Clutch - A 'company' i'd never use...
Title: Re: Car is in bits in a garage and need gearbox to get it back!
Post by: GTi Grez on 03 December 2012, 20:29
Yeah, well the phone call originally said that the gearbox casing was cracked. Then 1 minute later got a phone call back saying there was a mis-communication between him and guy working on it.
 So yeah as VW Bush said, its not the mount thats cracked it was the arm that joins to the subframe?? Does this make sense. I dont know my way around transmission that much.

If I get them to fit a new seal and clutch and replace the mount for now and stick gearbox back in does this sound the best idea? And then when I get a new gearbox get someone to put it in for me??

The whole Mr Clutch thing was because they sent me back the cheapest quote for clutch repair...they're a nationwide autocentre type place, not some little back street dude called 'Mr Clutch' next door to 'Mr Chips' and 'Mr Beerhouse'  :tongue:

But does it sound like they've screwed it taking it out??
Title: Re: Car is in bits in a garage and need gearbox to get it back!
Post by: MereKat on 03 December 2012, 20:36
Yeah, well the phone call originally said that the gearbox casing was cracked. Then 1 minute later got a phone call back saying there was a mis-communication between him and guy working on it.
 So yeah as VW Bush said, its not the mount thats cracked it was the arm that joins to the subframe?? Does this make sense. I dont know my way around transmission that much.

If I get them to fit a new seal and clutch and replace the mount for now and stick gearbox back in does this sound the best idea? And then when I get a new gearbox get someone to put it in for me??

The whole Mr Clutch thing was because they sent me back the cheapest quote for clutch repair...they're a nationwide backstreet dude type place, not some awesome reputable company called 'Mr Clutch' next door to 'Mr Chips' and 'Mr Beerhouse'  :tongue:

But does it sound like they've screwed it taking it out??

Corrected for you ;)

I have a Mr Clutch a few miles from me aswell...that's where my bad reviews have come from...they seem to be like Halfords...no idea and make money from it!

Why a new box? Sounds like it's just a seal and possibly a new mount needed?
Title: Re: Car is in bits in a garage and need gearbox to get it back!
Post by: GTi Grez on 03 December 2012, 21:03
Ah right ok. Bad decision on my part then. I'm not sure why the box is suddenly no good. Was a bit pissed off when he told me so forgot what he said, plus he was a bit vague I suppose. Will give him another call in the morning and hopefully they will have thought ahead and ordered the seal. I've sourced a mount from a breakers unit over the road from them.

So wwould you recommend using the old box with a new clutch, seal and mount? At least for now while I source another box...
Title: Re: Car is in bits in a garage and need gearbox to get it back!
Post by: MereKat on 03 December 2012, 21:19
If the box was fine before it went in, providing they haven't managed to cock it up, it should be fine when you pick it up...
Title: Re: Car is in bits in a garage and need gearbox to get it back!
Post by: GTi Grez on 03 December 2012, 22:01
I'll give them a call in the morning to discuss exactly what has gone on and what options are available.

Can anyone tell me though. I have been offered a box from a Mk2 GTi....been told its the same. Anything I should make sure of?

Thanks for the replies guys :smiley:
Title: Re: Car is in bits in a garage and need gearbox to get it back!
Post by: GOLF-MK3-GTI on 03 December 2012, 22:13
I'll give them a call in the morning to discuss exactly what has gone on and what options are available.

Can anyone tell me though. I have been offered a box from a Mk2 GTi....been told its the same. Anything I should make sure of?

Thanks for the replies guys :smiley:

I'm not sure, but as far as I know, you will have to run the mk2 flywheel along with the gearbox and clutch for it to work, but like I said I'm not sure, wait for someone pro to confirm this though, don't take my word for it.
Title: Re: Car is in bits in a garage and need gearbox to get it back!
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 03 December 2012, 22:49
Mr Clutch are the kwikfit-esque tossers of the transmission world - Do not use them! i made this mistake about 4 years ago on an 8v I had because they were the cheapest and i ended up taking the car back three times due to shoddy workmanship and dire parts used.
Title: Re: Car is in bits in a garage and need gearbox to get it back!
Post by: Len on 05 December 2012, 09:06
I used them once and in fact did a good job, but I would never used them again!

If you cant do this yourself then find a small independant garage.
Title: Re: Car is in bits in a garage and need gearbox to get it back!
Post by: gtiballs61 on 05 December 2012, 16:40
Could possibly be the push rod seal?
I bought my car with a slippy clutch,found out it was just the seal.
Oil gets on the clutch and causes it to slip like mad.
Sounds strange how the gearbox could break whilst its in the garage?
If it got you there,and you have had no previous problems then I'm sure it's ok.
Get the car out and find someone capable of looking,new clutch and seal about £75.
I had a gearbox you could've had for nothing.unfortunatley I've scrapped it. :lipsrsealed:

I'm pretty sure the mk2 box will fit,correct me if I'm wrong but you will need to buy a mk2 clutch also.
Title: Re: Car is in bits in a garage and need gearbox to get it back!
Post by: VW BUSH on 05 December 2012, 20:52
Could possibly be the push rod seal?
I bought my car with a slippy clutch,found out it was just the seal.
Oil gets on the clutch and causes it to slip like mad.
Sounds strange how the gearbox could break whilst its in the garage?
If it got you there,and you have had no previous problems then I'm sure it's ok.
Get the car out and find someone capable of looking,new clutch and seal about £75.
I had a gearbox you could've had for nothing.unfortunatley I've scrapped it. :lipsrsealed:

I'm pretty sure the mk2 box will fit,correct me if I'm wrong but you will need to buy a mk2 clutch also.

Push rod seal and crank seal never get changed by most garages as they don't come in the clutch kit (normally).
As said this will trash the clutch with just a few drops and give you a mega slipy clutch, insist they change the seals and leave the old bits in the boot whoever does it.

Mk2 box has different ratio's but can be fitted, if i can work out how to paste an xl doc to a post i will shove all of the possible boxes up :grin:


Title: Re: Car is in bits in a garage and need gearbox to get it back!
Post by: GTi Grez on 06 December 2012, 08:10
Thanks for all the responses guys. Currently sat on the train into town to go pick it up before work. I'm going to ask for the box back and any parts they didn't use. Want to see if I can see any signs of tampering or forceful removal. I managed to get hold of a box, clutch and flywheel from someone and got them to install that. I will check of they replaced the old seal for a new one to prevent it happening as soon I drive it again. Will post back up details later tonight hopefully!
Wish me luck  :shocked:
Title: Re: Car is in bits in a garage and need gearbox to get it back!
Post by: Len on 06 December 2012, 12:39
Cant be good news then!