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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: Harooshum on 25 July 2012, 16:54
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'00-reg 1.8T AUM 35k
My mk4 is due a service but the thing is the previous owners took it to the same VW dealership it was bought from, every single year. With the exception of tyres, nobody else has touched it for the last 12 years and it would be nice to keep the fwvsh up to scratch. Frequently around 700 miles between services.
Mileage is so low it never had the belt done, at this age I would rather get it done by them, but a few years ago I took a mk4 gti 20v non-turbo to VW and paid £300 for a flaming oil change! Oh as a bonus they gave me a list of faults totaling £1700 which I didn't opt to do. I'm scared of getting shafted and spending on staff with clipboards and pencils instead of spending what I need.
I have a VW down the road from me, but if I go to the other VW who looked after it since new, and say I'm the new owner I need a major service, will they offer me incentives? Or am I better off going to the one down my road?
I've had mk2 for 11 years and always did servicing myself, does anyone thing I'm being silly spending on VW for such an old car? I have no idea on prices as the website isn't specific enough. Thanks in advance
h.
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never had a cambelt done :shocked: they should be done every 4 years or 50k which ever comes first.
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never had a cambelt done :shocked: they should be done every 4 years or 50k which ever comes first.
is it not 60k :undecided: and its about 350-400 from the dealer but thats without the service
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Doesn't matter. Age alone it should be on its third one!! :shocked:
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Haha people never believe me! I bought it 6 months ago with 29k, now it has 35k. Everything is documented by this one vw dealership and belt/maj service is due next (now).
Any comments on taking it to vw? Incentives for them to keep me?
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Maybe I could pay 350-400 for the belt change and buy servicing parts from them to do myself. Oh actually this same vw garage always do the MOT and that's due pretty soon. So I imagine a full service inc timing belt and MOT would be approaching a grand! I don't need bills like this right now
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Get than belt replaced immediately, anywhere to be quite honest. If that lets go you'll have a lovely 35k paperweight :grin:
My '99 has 44k on it. Assuming 12k a year average mileage mines got less than yours. So not particularly shocked :wink:
Seriously though, VW do discounts for old cars like yours. Although personally I'd just go to a VW specialist. Bottom line is an early mk4 is worth very little, even with low miles. A good service history will get you the same price as a full VW one.
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Cheers Bob, I think I'll ask that vw how much and what incentives they can offer me, and at a minimum I'll fork out to get the belt done and service/MOT it elsewhere. These main dealers take the mickey mouse!
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Haha people never believe me! I bought it 6 months ago with 29k, now it has 35k. Everything is documented by this one vw dealership and belt/maj service is due next (now).
Belt is due on age (every 4 yrs) and not mileage, it is well overdue and I would not be using anymore until it is replaced, also get the water pump replaced at the same time.
As for keeping the history, does it really matter not really going to add much to its value.
Just use a specialist they will be cheaper than VW.
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Ahh tell me about it, VW are awful!
My Golf had a FWVSH when I got her, 24k on the clock, back in 2008. I serviced it myself to save money. lot to be said for keeping the SH up though. VW specialist is the way to go. Awesome GTI replaced mine for £300.
Oh this is SO important. Get your water pump replaced. VW don't class it as a serviceable part, but it is. You need the later model with metal propeller.
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Oh this is SO important. Get your water pump replaced. VW don't class it as a serviceable part, but it is. You need the later model with metal propeller.
The new VW one is modified yet still runs a plastic impellor the idea is that it will shear off if it seizes.
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I'm in a similar predicament myself, had the car for 7 years, bought it when it was 3 years old with 7k miles on the clock & serviced religiously at supplying VW dealer since new.
I've just booked it in again for a major service, 4k miles since last service 12 months ago. I also get the cambelt done by VW & ask them to change the waterpump every time - It's had 2 cambelt changes in my ownership.
VW have menu pricing for service & service related work for all VW's between 3-10 years old & this year they applied that to my car even though it was over 10 years old. Minor service is about £130 & major service about £260. Cam belt change iirc is about £340.
To be honest, I rang around a couple of VW specialists & the difference in price was negligible, so I opted (rightly or wrongly...) to carry on having it serviced at VW & get the stamp in the book. I don't know if it will add any value when I come to sell but thats the choice you make...
If your car has got a full VW service history from the supplying dealer, I would imagine its very much like mine in that it has been well looked after. Chances are that you might not end up with an unexpected bill, but I guess that depends on the dealership...
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seized metal water pumps are not pretty... the last RS I worked on tore the cam belt in half and bent all 8 valves due to this lol
They are made from a better composite now which is less likely to break
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So I'll demand a new waterpump which means the plastic internals - which is ok? The metal one seems unnecessary. So belt and waterpump without service or MOT could be up to £500. Wow!
h.
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I'm lucky that I've got a mate who does all my work, cost me £50 labour for cambelt and water pump change :tongue:
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Opposite way around, you need the pumo with metal propeller not plasdtic. Unless it's suddenly changed? the plsatic ones always go at some point, metal ones are supposed to last an incredibly long time.
Either way, ask for an updated water pump. Mine blew a couple of years ago when it had less miles on than yours, so you're taking a chance not having it done.
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Oh this is SO important. Get your water pump replaced. VW don't class it as a serviceable part, but it is. You need the later model with metal propeller.
The new VW one is modified yet still runs a plastic impellor the idea is that it will shear off if it seizes.
This post and quote isn't clear.
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Opposite way around, you need the pumo with metal propeller not plasdtic. Unless it's suddenly changed? the plsatic ones always go at some point, metal ones are supposed to last an incredibly long time.
Either way, ask for an updated water pump. Mine blew a couple of years ago when it had less miles on than yours, so you're taking a chance not having it done.
The metal version is a bad idea, the VW one is modified now and much better even if it is still plastic, the metal ones are a bad idea as they will cause major damage if the seize or get stuck.
Nobody I know in the trade recommends the metal pump these days.
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Opposite way around, you need the pumo with metal propeller not plasdtic. Unless it's suddenly changed? the plsatic ones always go at some point, metal ones are supposed to last an incredibly long time.
Either way, ask for an updated water pump. Mine blew a couple of years ago when it had less miles on than yours, so you're taking a chance not having it done.
The metal version is a bad idea, the VW one is modified now and much better even if it is still plastic, the metal ones are a bad idea as they will cause major damage if the seize or get stuck.
Nobody I know in the trade recommends the metal pump these days.
+1 VW dont do the metal impeller any more. The new VW waterpump is a better quality plastic so should last alot longer.
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Thanks to all. I will definitely ask for a new and updated waterpump. I've got a funny feeling that if I ask about whether the inside blades are plastic or metal, I'll get a "baffled" look from the staff. It will probably be the strong plastic anyway.
h.
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I went into Halfrauds for some spark plugs for a sierra XR4i the guy came back with 4 in his hand, I said its a V6 I got a blank look and said ''get me 2 more plugs you clown'' :grin:
he said ''oh sorry computer said 4'' and I though of little britain instantly and couldnt stop laughing
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I went into Halfrauds for some spark plugs for a sierra XR4i the guy came back with 4 in his hand, I said its a V6 I got a blank look and said ''get me 2 more plugs you clown'' :grin:
he said ''oh sorry computer said 4'' and I though of little britain instantly and couldnt stop laughing
you still got the xr4i :smiley:
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Wasnt mine, my mate still has it though :wink:
absolute monster it is
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Wasnt mine, my mate still has it though :wink:
absolute monster it is
:grin: :grin: wrote my 2 off
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Wasnt mine, my mate still has it though :wink:
absolute monster it is
:grin: :grin: wrote my 2 off
I would say he doesnt know how to drive it properly but he does :laugh:
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Wasnt mine, my mate still has it though :wink:
absolute monster it is
:grin: :grin: wrote my 2 off
I would say he doesnt know how to drive it properly but he does :laugh:
i made a couple of mistakes when i was 21 :smiley: :smiley:
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Mines still running the metal water pump, it'll do for 2 more years until the cam belt is due to be replaced again :grin:
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Mine has full VWSH, it will be serviced again there in Nov. also due cambelt, they offer fixed priced servicing :wink:
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How does the "fixed price" servicing work? Something like I pay £500 per year and for that I get oil/filter/plugs/MOT once a year? If so then that sounds ok. But it seems to good to be true, like I said in my 1st post VW charged me £300 only for an oil change a few years ago!
If it's ok I'd like to learn more about this fixed price stuff before contacting VW...
h.
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Means reduced flat rates for cars more than 3 years old, you're thinking of warranty plan which would only be available on new cars which is then renewed each year.
Have a look at this... http://www.volkswagenshrewsbury.co.uk/Servicing/Fixed-Servicing.aspx
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This page tells me £479 - http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/owners/servicing/fixed-price-servicing
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Where are you based? do a search here to find your local VW dealers webpage and go by all prices they quote.
http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/find-a-retailer
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Thanks again for all your input everyone, I've done all this, the only reason I was considering using that same vw dealer that's always serviced it, is if they would offer me some incentives as the prev owner told me VW occasionally give free aircon refresh etc...
Even with this it's still extortionate so this is my plan: plugs ngk201-halfords, oil&filter&sump plug-vw, pipercross air filter&pollen-eBay, Ferrari458engine&gearbox-my dreams, all installed by me.
VW want £479 for belt and water pump, but a mate recommends me a vw specialist who only uses VAG parts, and here is their quote:
"Timing belt kit+pump fitted £285 +vat. If hydraulic damper req £86.54 +vat, alternator belt £32.32 +vat"
I was thinking to do my servicing with a camera and stick it on YouTube. Does anyone have any comments on the hydraulic damper and alt belt? I thought the belt kit comes with tensioner so Im unsure what these extras are for.