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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: KIN9DUB on 06 June 2012, 13:19
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alright people, i've recently bought a mk3 gti 8v coming from a seat cordoba cupra, so it's quite alot slower than that. i was wondering would it be worth turbo'n an 8v? n what sort of work/ costs will i be looking at. looked on ebay and the turbo kits are around 600 quid, but what else would need to be done. also what sort of power would i expect after doing it? it says on the turbo kit 100- 150 + bhp. wondered if this was true. or do i just buy a vr6 and turbo/supercharge that. all i know is i need more power.
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Do a fcuking search!!!
There's a sticky with parts needed for a 1.8 20v turbo conversion. Use a k04 and you will get 260bhp
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Tweed, will ko4 just bolt onto an earlyier 20vt lump like an AGU? I need a turbo for mine, just wondering the hasstle of putting a ko4 instead of looking for a standard ko3.
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Tweed, will ko4 just bolt onto an earlyier 20vt lump like an AGU? I need a turbo for mine, just wondering the hasstle of putting a ko4 instead of looking for a standard ko3.
The manifold will fit the head, so you can bolt up the turbo/manifold...then you will need the bigger injectors, bigger MAF etc...plus the ECU custom mapping to make it all work.
And you still wouldn't have the stronger bottom end of the K04 engines.
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alright people, i've recently bought a mk3 gti 8v coming from a seat cordoba cupra, so it's quite alot slower than that. i was wondering would it be worth turbo'n an 8v? n what sort of work/ costs will i be looking at. looked on ebay and the turbo kits are around 600 quid, but what else would need to be done. also what sort of power would i expect after doing it? it says on the turbo kit 100- 150 + bhp. wondered if this was true. or do i just buy a vr6 and turbo/supercharge that. all i know is i need more power.
In a word forget it, ebay turbo kits tend not to fit uk spec cars, you will not see big gains.
Fit a 1.8t lump or sell it and buy something quicker.
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VR Turbo!!! :grin: :tongue: :evil:
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VR Turbo!!! :grin:
It is a nice idea but look at the costs and work involved
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my friend built one on sunday,
i went along an made tea an helped out here an there no point getting in the way of the pro's
he is finishing up the pipework today, should be back on the road by the weekend.
garry the t32 snail, tial 50mm external wastegate, remapped ecu, front mount, spacer gasket, uprated head bolts its all pretty monge to be honest, it has cost a fair old whack but worth it when the predicted figures come home
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my friend built one on sunday,
i went along an made tea an helped out here an there no point getting in the way of the pro's
he is finishing up the pipework today, should be back on the road by the weekend.
What did it cost ? plus have they done internal mods to cope with the boost.
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What did it cost ? plus have they done internal mods to cope with the boost.
I didnt dare ask but my knowledge of what the parts roughly cost i would be surprised if there was any change from around 3 - 3.5 grand i could also be a fair way off tho, no internal modifications required, although will be running digital in car boost controller with preset boost pressures for each gear & on the move adjustment, had new chains & guides fitted also along with a 5mm spacer to give the lower compression ratio.
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I didnt dare ask but my knowledge of what the parts roughly cost i would be surprised if there was any change from around 3 - 3.5 grand i could also be a fair way off tho, no internal modifications required, although will be running digital in car boost controller with preset boost pressures for each gear & on the move adjustment, had new chains & guides fitted also along with a 5mm spacer to give the lower compression ratio.
Oh dear...just a spacer.
Not the route I'd go, considering the VR6's ability to run hot.
Things tend to melt...
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Oh dear...just a spacer.
Not the route I'd go, considering the VR6's ability to run hot.
Things tend to melt...
yes i said this, but was met with, its a throw away engine, theres another 2 on the rack over there... when it goes it'l be built back up with forged internals no doubt..... who am i to argue its not my project, i was just tea boy on that day...
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People run 500bhp+ on standard internals .... vr6 obviously, without issues.
But they suffer the cylinder number5 over heating problem FI or not. My mate has a cyl5 piston souvenir from his vrt
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Im glad you've said that my good sir! :cool:
I was starting to think i had dreamt hearing it somewhere :laugh:
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vr6 have strong internals... but running silly power will sooner or later make something go broke :grin:
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I looked into the vr6 turbo route. Made a list and was going all out 3.0 block etc. Spoke to a lot of people across the pond and they said I would get 550whp. Complety undriveable just wheel spinning torque steer. Pain in traffic and in town. Then after building gearbox, brakes etc. Was looking at wrong side of £10,000.
So choose the 2.8 24v instead. Pretty cool and awesome sound. Any more than 300whp in a fwd car is pointless especially in a chassis designed for 175bhp!
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Some people are prepared to pay 4 - 5 grand for the turbo.
Is there are direct link to the page on how to do it?
Whats required?
I tell you what mate, on the corrado forums, they dont say "too expensive" they say f***** do it!!!!
loads of help there if you need it.
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Ive just been reading up on it.....theres alot involved.
Best thing to do if you dont know alot about mechanics is to keep writing cheques and to let stormdevelopments or somebody do the work lol
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I tell you what mate, on the corrado forums, they dont say "too expensive" they say f***** do it!!!!
loads of help there if you need it.
I have a couple of mates with VR6Ts (one in a Rallye, one in a Corrado) and they are awesome.
But you can't build them cheap.
You pay the money and build it properly, or melt things and be forever trying to get them to run.
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Definatley, this people love there corrados, there mk3s.
Not everyone can afford a golf r.
But then again, most people on the forums would buy a mk2 over a new r.
Anybody who wants a turbo fitted must be serious about there machine, if i get round to it, i aint gunna be selling it afterwards lol
Ive ready info online about adding a turbo to a vr6..... But they dont mention the cash you need to spend on upgrading your brakes........ Thats another 800 quid gone.
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Definatley, this people love there corrados, there mk3s.
Not everyone can afford a golf r.
But then again, most people on the forums would buy a mk2 over a new r.
Hardly comparable, are they?
Like a factor of 10 apart in price. :rolleyes:
Ive ready info online about adding a turbo to a vr6..... But they dont mention the cash you need to spend on upgrading your brakes........ Thats another 800 quid gone.
Maybe you should read some more...then go speak to people that own them.
Brakes...
Suspension...because £200 Joms aren't going to cut it.
Gearbox...another £1000 for a LSD and rebuild.
Wheers/tyres...
Very fast cars once built...but how well it puts the power down, or corners, will be the difference between doing it cheap and spending proper money.
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Respect to those who go through with turbo ' ing there VRs.
And dont say "£6000? Might aswell by an impreza" loool
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im thinking bout vrt the cl as i think it would be the first cl trim'd and badged vrt going (correct me if im wrong) and considering iv rebuilt it twice as a 1.6 i think shes worthy of some money now lol
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Let me know how it goes
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im thinking bout vrt the cl as i think it would be the first cl trim'd and badged vrt going (correct me if im wrong) and considering iv rebuilt it twice as a 1.6 i think shes worthy of some money now lol
1.6 to a vrt? :shocked: I think you may have missed a step.
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na il get a vr donor for running gear engine gearbox ect then start the transition put it as a vr for summer then strip it down over winter turbo and rebuild :)
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if you collect all the parts and are competant (you sound like you are) it can be done in as little as a day an a half, my mates is almost back on the road,
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if you collect all the parts and are competant (you sound like you are) it can be done in as little as a day an a half, my mates is almost back on the road,
Is that months of collecting parts first hand :grin:
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erm.... probably about 2 months lmao..... however before doing the arp rod bolts the the bearings where checked an found one that he wasnt happy with, 20 mins later a van arrived with new parts..... git bag, fortunes of having your own workshop and trade accounts i suppose
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if you collect all the parts and are competant (you sound like you are) it can be done in as little as a day an a half, my mates is almost back on the road,
Is that months of collecting parts first hand :grin:
:grin: probably but its all worth it for a golf :) and as said before i wrote about this on faceyb and got told to buy a skyline with the amount of money im chucking into this, my reply was f**k getting a skyline u see them everywhere but a turbod vr with 1.6 badge u see nowhere i dont want big jap toys i love my golf too much :)
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If I win the euro millions my golf is getting a custom made four rotary engine and rwd :evil:
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