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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: Modz on 11 October 2011, 21:03
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Newbe
I'm looking to get a GTI myself dont know if i should buy a dsg or manual what was yours and what do you lot think DSG or Manual?
Many thanks
Modz
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Only you can decide some love DSG and some prefer manual. Try both and see what you prefer.
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I have had both, definately manual for me, a little uninvolving using a DSG. A good novelty to start with, but then becomes abit boring.
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I would say it depends on your driving style and how you will be using the car.... :nerd:
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GTI - Manual
GTD - DSG
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Maybe this will help with your decision.
Manual R vs DSG GTI
'The 2012 Golf R is the most powerful Golf ever built with a 256 horsepower turbo-charged engine and all-wheel-drive it should cream the 2012 front-wheel-drive Golf GTI (which puts out only 200 horsepower) in a straight-line drag race. So what do you think happens when we pit the two Golf's against each other in this impromptu drag race?'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCfUFP4cgyw&feature=relmfu
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Maybe this will help with your decision.
Manual R vs DSG GTI
'The 2012 Golf R is the most powerful Golf ever built with a 256 horsepower turbo-charged engine and all-wheel-drive it should cream the 2012 front-wheel-drive Golf GTI (which puts out only 200 horsepower) in a straight-line drag race. So what do you think happens when we pit the two Golf's against each other in this impromptu drag race?'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCfUFP4cgyw&feature=relmfu
firstly i would ignore that as it has no relevance to your choice.
secondly this is done over in the states where they have crappy fuel
thirdly the R engine is required to be run on 99ron fuel where as the gti is happy on 95ron
fourthly the climate is such in the states that the AWD of the R rarely makes much sense
overall.... if you think you can justify the DSG due to simply drag races and overtaking moves then its the choice for you. I would like a said previously have a look at how and what type of driving you want the gti for, this will make your choice of manual v dsg much easier. :nerd:
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I prefer a manual myself, I like to know where the gears are up to, I dont really have anything against a DSG, but would say, if you`re planning on keeping past the warranty, that a DSG is much more expensive to repair/replace....
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GTI-DSG
GTD-DSG :wink:
It just makes sense because its a brilliant piece of kit :wink:
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GTI - Manual
GTD - DSG
I'd agree.
Suits the diesel well...but I found it frustrating as hell on the GTI. I hated it. In fact, I took the demonstrator back early, it frustrated me that much.
If 'manual' actually meant 'manual' I might of liked it a bit more.
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I have DSG which is great most of the time, I don't like the way it changes down gear too readily, sometimes I want to pull in 5th but it will kick down to 3rd.
I wouldn't buy another DSG, I'd save the extra money or spend it on something else on the car.
Jim
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I have DSG which is great most of the time, I don't like the way it changes down gear too readily, sometimes I want to pull in 5th but it will kick down to 3rd.
I wouldn't buy another DSG, I'd save the extra money or spend it on something else on the car.
Jim
That's one of the main issues I have with it...with the TDIs being torquier, the DSG doesn't seem as keen to drop down...but that what you describe drive me nuts.
Even in manual...if you press the throttle all the way down, down the gears it went. Aargh.
If manual meant proper manual I may have liked it more..of if I did most of my driving in town commutes, but as it is..on a petrol car, nope.
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I test drove 2 manual and 2 dsg GTI mk5 before I bought my new mk6 and I prefer the manual
The 2 manual cars I drove were basic 3 door with next to no extras and I loved both
The 2 dsg ones had all the bells and whistles and one was a bit of a pig (was cold and car had stood for a while - it improved after a few miles)
The other seemed fine but It wasn't for me
As an automatic it's faultless but the sport mode is just annoying and the manual mode is something you would never use once the novelty wore off
There is no denying the dsg is quicker off the Mark but on a trackday or a good b road give me a manual any day.
Using the gearbox is all part of the driving experience IMO
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I test drove 2 manual and 2 dsg GTI mk5 before I bought my new mk6 and I prefer the manual
The 2 manual cars I drove were basic 3 door with next to no extras and I loved both
The 2 dsg ones had all the bells and whistles and one was a bit of a pig (was cold and car had stood for a while - it improved after a few miles)
The other seemed fine but It wasn't for me
As an automatic it's faultless but the sport mode is just annoying and the manual mode is something you would never use once the novelty wore off
There is no denying the dsg is quicker off the Mark but on a trackday or a good b road give me a manual any day.
Using the gearbox is all part of the driving experience IMO
Whilst I wouldn't get DSG again I find that it is very good if you're blasting around B-roads, I'm from a motorcycle background and I find by using the flappy paddles in manual mode you really can control the gears very well. I've never tried it on the track but I think I'd like it on the track for sure.
Jim
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I recently drove a DSG GTI and I rather liked it except for the downchanges. But I could easily live with that. But I don't like the idea of forking out for it.
Can anyone tell me if they have found a DSG equipped car a tiny bit quieter?
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Get a manual or you will spend all day with your left finger up your nose like all the other DSG drivers because they don't know what to do with their left hand :evil:
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I test drove 2 manual and 2 dsg GTI mk5 before I bought my new mk6 and I prefer the manual
The 2 manual cars I drove were basic 3 door with next to no extras and I loved both
The 2 dsg ones had all the bells and whistles and one was a bit of a pig (was cold and car had stood for a while - it improved after a few miles)
The other seemed fine but It wasn't for me
As an automatic it's faultless but the sport mode is just annoying and the manual mode is something you would never use once the novelty wore off
There is no denying the dsg is quicker off the Mark but on a trackday or a good b road give me a manual any day.
Using the gearbox is all part of the driving experience IMO
Whilst I wouldn't get DSG again I find that it is very good if you're blasting around B-roads, I'm from a motorcycle background and I find by using the flappy paddles in manual mode you really can control the gears very well. I've never tried it on the track but I think I'd like it on the track for sure.
Jim
I'm from bikes too (club racing/trackdays as well as enduro) and didn't find it made the dsg any more relevant to me because of this.
i would say the DSG is 100% the best automatic Ive ever driven but it does take something away from the driving experience. also when they're cold they're pretty jerky and dim witted (though i have only driven 2 on short-ish test drives like i said earlier) and the sport mode is awful IMO.
the 6 speed manual has a bit of a long throw which spoils it a bit but a manual gearbox is definitely more involving.
as my left foot has been smashed up in a bike accident i wouldn't say no to a dsg but for now the manual is fine by me.
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Get a manual or you will spend all day with your left finger up your nose like all the other DSG drivers because they don't know what to do with their left hand :evil:
........... :grin:. Manual for me. :smiley:
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Manual here too. I liked the DSG on my test drive, but sadly didn't think it was for me.
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I test drove 2 manual and 2 dsg GTI mk5 before I bought my new mk6 and I prefer the manual
The 2 manual cars I drove were basic 3 door with next to no extras and I loved both
The 2 dsg ones had all the bells and whistles and one was a bit of a pig (was cold and car had stood for a while - it improved after a few miles)
The other seemed fine but It wasn't for me
As an automatic it's faultless but the sport mode is just annoying and the manual mode is something you would never use once the novelty wore off
There is no denying the dsg is quicker off the Mark but on a trackday or a good b road give me a manual any day.
Using the gearbox is all part of the driving experience IMO
Whilst I wouldn't get DSG again I find that it is very good if you're blasting around B-roads, I'm from a motorcycle background and I find by using the flappy paddles in manual mode you really can control the gears very well. I've never tried it on the track but I think I'd like it on the track for sure.
Jim
I'm from bikes too (club racing/trackdays as well as enduro) and didn't find it made the dsg any more relevant to me because of this.
i would say the DSG is 100% the best automatic Ive ever driven but it does take something away from the driving experience. also when they're cold they're pretty jerky and dim witted (though i have only driven 2 on short-ish test drives like i said earlier) and the sport mode is awful IMO.
the 6 speed manual has a bit of a long throw which spoils it a bit but a manual gearbox is definitely more involving.
as my left foot has been smashed up in a bike accident i wouldn't say no to a dsg but for now the manual is fine by me.
It's relevant to motorcyclist in that the gears are sequential, being able to knock it down 2 gears with two button pushes, you're also able to keep two hands on the steering wheel.
Jim
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personally i don't think it makes a blind bit of difference coming from bikes. a manual gearstick is hardly confusing after riding a bike. i don't think you can compare riding a bike to driving a car in any way regardless of gearbox.
my mate i used to race with just bought a new SMG bmw M3 and just leaves it in auto as he finds the paddles and sequential mode annoying too.
if i had DSG i would just use it in auto 99% of the time and 1% to use the launch control now and again.
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Funny how some people don't agree isn't it? I think it's called an opinion and my opinion is no more wrong than yours.
Its my opinion, you can disagree all you like but telling me I'm wrong............
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I have DSG which is great most of the time, I don't like the way it changes down gear too readily, sometimes I want to pull in 5th but it will kick down to 3rd.
Jim
+1 annoying at times but it dosen't really bother me to much tbo. I do 12k commuting upto London everyday and would personally always opt for an auto box as I find it easier to drive in traffic that a manual. I'd would certainly be happy to by another golf with DSG in the future.
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It's relevant to motorcyclist in that the gears are sequential, being able to knock it down 2 gears with two button pushes, you're also able to keep two hands on the steering wheel.
Jim
As an ex-motorcyclist, what I like about the manual is that I can skip gears, up or down without having to go through the gears sequentially.
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There is something deeply satisfying about using a proper sequential gearbox - the free play in the linkage as you start to shift, the resistance as you start to engage the selector drum, and the clunk as the next gear slots in with barely a lift of the throttle...be it on a bike or a competition car with a proper sequential 'box...there is proper involvement and a smile of satisfaction.
However there is nothing satisfying about clicking a mirco switch and having the feeling that you are playing on your Playstation, as with DSG.
A proper sequential box with crash down 3 gears, locking wheels or blowing the engine if you are a clot...so there is engagement there.
DSG will take 3 clicks of the 'paddle' and drop down one...then wait...then another...and wait...then, when it's ready...drop down the third.
Frustrating...even in 'manual' it only changes when it's ready.
Preventing enhine damage is a good thing, and I can accept that...but the delays? When the revs are suitable? Frustrating.
As an Auto, DSG is brilliant...as an Auto with some manual control, its good...but an automated sequential manual it is not.
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That's odd that you are saying that you can bang it down the gears such as stick it from 5th to 3rd very quickly because mine certainly does.
Don't get me wrong DSG has it flaws, but being slow to change down gears in manual mode is not one of them.
Jim
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My mate spent all his time trying to explain to people what DSG is, its two clutches etc etc etc as when people noticed the shift lever they would ask why he had bought an automatic. So basically if you buy a DSG you have to be a bit of a :nerd:
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My mate spent all his time trying to explain to people what DSG is, its two clutches etc etc etc as when people noticed the shift lever they would ask why he had bought an automatic. So basically if you buy a DSG you have to be a bit of a :nerd:
How do F1 cars and Lamborghini's change gear again?
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So, after 3 pages, 27 replies and 533 views, has the OP come to a decision?
Be most interested.
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My mate spent all his time trying to explain to people what DSG is, its two clutches etc etc etc as when people noticed the shift lever they would ask why he had bought an automatic. So basically if you buy a DSG you have to be a bit of a :nerd:
How do F1 cars and Lamborghini's change gear again?
Oh, there's a fair comparison.
Next you'll be telling me you have a sportscar! :grin:
How does one of the finest driving machines in the world - the GT3RS - change gear?
Oh yeah...
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My mate spent all his time trying to explain to people what DSG is, its two clutches etc etc etc as when people noticed the shift lever they would ask why he had bought an automatic. So basically if you buy a DSG you have to be a bit of a :nerd:
How do F1 cars and Lamborghini's change gear again?
Oh, there's a fair comparison.
Next you'll be telling me you have a sportscar! :grin:
How does one of the finest driving machines in the world - the GT3RS - change gear?
Oh yeah...
We could go at this all night!!
How does the Nissan GTR change gear :nerd:
I'm not saying I have a sports car either, I thought the discussion was regarding the merits or failings of DSG
Jim
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DSG... quicker but not better. There you go chaps! :cool:
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DSG... quicker but not better. There you go chaps! :cool:
100% agree with that.
Jim
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We could go at this all night!!
How does the Nissan GTR change gear :nerd:
I'm not saying I have a sports car either, I thought the discussion was regarding the merits or failings of DSG
Jim
A good example...a very fast car for the Playstation generation where the car does the majority of the work.
I will re state the car that's the exact opposite of the GTR - the GT3/GT3RS...an organic driving experience for those who love to be involved :wink:
Why do Porsche not fit PDK (DSG) to the GT3?
2 reasons...weight and lack of involvement.
DSG may be faster (it is...) but it's not involving or organic in it's exacution.
You pays your money and makes your choice.
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DSG... quicker but not better. There you go chaps! :cool:
100% agree with that.
Jim
Me too.
Horses for courses.
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How does the Nissan GTR change gear :nerd:
Jim
Not very well as it has a design flaw in the gearbox :evil:
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How does the Nissan GTR change gear :nerd:
Jim
Not very well as it has a silly flappy paddle, double clutch, heavy assed gearbox :evil:
I fixed that for you Snoopy :evil:
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How does the Nissan GTR change gear :nerd:
Jim
Not very well as it has a silly flappy paddle, double clutch, heavy assed gearbox :evil:
I fixed that for you Snoopy :evil:
But it still goes round the ring ten seconds quicker than the GT3RS....
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But it still goes round the ring ten seconds quicker than the GT3RS....
But the driver gets out feeling like he's finished playing on his playstation...whereas the driver of the GT3 gets out wired, as if his own DNA was involved in the car.
You don't buy a GT3 if you are chasing willy-waving power figures or 'ring times...you buy it to give the biggest buzz and maximum involvement to to the driver.
Again, horses for courses.
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How does the Nissan GTR change gear :nerd:
Jim
Not very well as it has a silly flappy paddle, double clutch, heavy assed gearbox :evil:
I fixed that for you Snoopy :evil:
:grin:
It is a shame that gearboxe will eat itself sooner or later due to a tiny design flaw :lipsrsealed:
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How does the Nissan GTR change gear :nerd:
Jim
Not very well as it has a silly flappy paddle, double clutch, heavy assed gearbox :evil:
I fixed that for you Snoopy :evil:
:grin:
It is a shame that gearboxey will eat itself sooner or later due to a tiny huge design flaw :lipsrsealed:
Fixed it further. :grin:
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Another pointless thread bickering about DSG in the mk6 section, even has a moderator in it. :rolleyes:
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Another pointless thread bickering about DSG in the mk6 section, even has a moderator in it. :rolleyes:
'Location: accelerating away from you'.
Unfortunately, not quickly enough. :grin: :kiss:
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:rolleyes:
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Another pointless thread bickering about DSG in the mk6 section, even has a moderator in it. :rolleyes:
Help and sarcasm since '02 :tongue:
Lets see what i posted
Only you can decide some love DSG and some prefer manual. Try both and see what you prefer.
My mate spent all his time trying to explain to people what DSG is, its two clutches etc etc etc as when people noticed the shift lever they would ask why he had bought an automatic. So basically if you buy a DSG you have to be a bit of a :nerd:
(stating a fact of his experience)
How does the Nissan GTR change gear :nerd:
Jim
Not very well as it has a design flaw in the gearbox :evil:
There is a design issue with the box nothing to do with it been DSG or manual.
It is a shame that gearboxe will eat itself sooner or later due to a tiny design flaw :lipsrsealed:
I don't see were i am pro one or the other with my posts. :huh:
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A shame there is no help in this thread for the OP and little sarcasm; just bickering.
This gets done every week. Its a personal opinion. Test it. Posting pointless videos where a car has no drag and keeps up with a faster car in front isnt going to help the OP decide :rolleyes:
Test one, buy the one you like.
Didnt say you contributed, you just didnt lock it once the standard rubbish started.
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A shame there is no help in this thread for the OP and little sarcasm; just bickering.
This gets done every week. Its a personal opinion. Test it.
Isn't that what comments like 'horses for hourses' suggest he do?
It's personal choice...drive both with your eyes wide open, and buy the one that you prefer, for the majority of driving you do.
Simples.
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Another pointless thread bickering about DSG in the mk6 section, even has a moderator in it. :rolleyes:
Lol another pointless post from the guy who appears to be lost again!
I wonder how much benefit you've bought to this section!!
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Another pointless thread bickering about DSG in the mk6 section, even has a moderator in it. :rolleyes:
A forum is full of comments, opinions, arguments (some good some bad), videos (non porn), which makes it interesting and lively.
The OP will sift through this and decide.
To say it is all pointless is totally pointless.
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Another pointless thread bickering about DSG in the mk6 section, even has a moderator in it. :rolleyes:
Lol another pointless post from the guy who appears to be lost again!
I wonder how much benefit you've bought to this section!!
You will find we share the same platform, the Golf R is an S3 also. So not lost at all.
I have not brought this section much at all. I was in here when it first started with my previous user name though, and helped a few people with various questions, about DSG most likely!
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You will find we share the same platform, the Golf R is an S3 also. So not lost at all.
True...but a 'platform' is not the same as a 'chassis'.
The Golf R and S3 drive differently - quite differently...the GTI even more so.
But, in the instance of DSG, they all suffer the same 'issues' as well as sharing the same benefits.
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Modz:
Get a manual GTI with ACC. That way you will be at one with your car and the ACC will change the suspension setting and steering feel to suit your mood and the road.
I even started a poll for you!
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My mate spent all his time trying to explain to people what DSG is, its two clutches etc etc etc as when people noticed the shift lever they would ask why he had bought an automatic. So basically if you buy a DSG you have to be a bit of a :nerd:
That's true.
I gave my wife and two of her girlfriends a lift in my DSG-equipped R about a year ago. They immediately asked "Why have you bought an automatic GTI? Surely a sporty car should have a manual gearbox?"
After several minutes of trying to explain the benefits of twin-clutch gearboxes I gave up. :nerd: I didn't even bother explaining it was actually an R not a GTI because I knew they would have said "Oh... it's an R32?". Then, I'd have to put my nerdy specs on again and explain the difference between the R32 and the R! :evil:
So, if you want to impress girls, get a manual GTI. I separated from my wife several months ago. :grin:
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Another pointless thread bickering about DSG in the mk6 section, even has a moderator in it. :rolleyes:
Lol another pointless post from the guy who appears to be lost again!
I wonder how much benefit you've bought to this section!!
You will find we share the same platform, the Golf R is an S3 also. So not lost at all.
I have not brought this section much at all. I was in here when it first started with my previous user name though, and helped a few people with various questions, about DSG most likely!
Hey JulesS3... didn't you have a Mk 5 R32 once? Way back in the day... when forums where good and all that.
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Another pointless thread bickering about DSG in the mk6 section, even has a moderator in it. :rolleyes:
Lol another pointless post from the guy who appears to be lost again!
I wonder how much benefit you've bought to this section!!
You will find we share the same platform, the Golf R is an S3 also. So not lost at all.
I have not brought this section much at all. I was in here when it first started with my previous user name though, and helped a few people with various questions, about DSG most likely!
Hey JulesS3... didn't you have a Mk 5 R32 once? Way back in the day... when forums where good and all that.
He did indeed... then he sold out to get better mpg :grin:
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My mate spent all his time trying to explain to people what DSG is, its two clutches etc etc etc as when people noticed the shift lever they would ask why he had bought an automatic. So basically if you buy a DSG you have to be a bit of a :nerd:
That's true.
I gave my wife and two of her girlfriends a lift in my DSG-equipped R about a year ago. They immediately asked "Why have you bought an automatic GTI? Surely a sporty car should have a manual gearbox?"
After several minutes of trying to explain the benefits of twin-clutch gearboxes I gave up. :nerd: I didn't even bother explaining it was actually an R not a GTI because I knew they would have said "Oh... it's an R32?". Then, I'd have to put my nerdy specs on again and explain the difference between the R32 and the R! :evil:
So, if you want to impress girls, get a manual GTI. I separated from my wife several months ago. :grin:
You should have got a manual (box) and read the manual again ...... female satisfaction guaranteed. :evil:
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Another pointless thread bickering about DSG in the mk6 section, even has a moderator in it. :rolleyes:
Lol another pointless post from the guy who appears to be lost again!
I wonder how much benefit you've bought to this section!!
You will find we share the same platform, the Golf R is an S3 also. So not lost at all.
I have not brought this section much at all. I was in here when it first started with my previous user name though, and helped a few people with various questions, about DSG most likely!
Hey JulesS3... didn't you have a Mk 5 R32 once? Way back in the day... when forums where good and all that.
He did indeed... then he sold out to get better mpg :grin:
I did indeed, also had regular use of my mums mk5 GTI (DSG :cool: ) The R32 suited the DSG better as it had buckets of low down torque! Didnt want a facelift S3 as im not a fan, though i wanted DSG it would have cost £5k more for it, not prepared to do that!
Awaiting the RS3 to drop in price now :cool:
Yea, the old MK5 section was way better than the MK6; younger users, fun chat and people that went outside every so often :smiley:
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Yea, the old MK5 section was way better than the MK6; younger users, fun chat and people that went outside every so often :smiley:
I do enjoy the other forum they left and setup. :smiley:
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Its a superb forum :cool:
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Yea, the old MK5 section was way better than the MK6; younger users, fun chat and people that went outside every so often :smiley:
So anyone over 30 shouldn't infest internet forums? Ah well, back to my pipe and slippers then ...
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Yea, the old MK5 section was way better than the MK6; younger users, fun chat and people that went outside every so often :smiley:
So anyone over 30 shouldn't infest internet forums? Ah well, back to my pipe and slippers then ...
The world is full of young ignorant p!ssers like him who cannot p!ss straight. :angry:
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Yea, the old MK5 section was way better than the MK6; younger users, fun chat and people that went outside every so often :smiley:
So anyone over 30 shouldn't infest internet forums? Ah well, back to my pipe and slippers then ...
The world is full of young ignorant p!ssers like him who cannot p!ss straight. :angry:
better than being in a nappy :laugh:
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Yea, the old MK5 section was way better than the MK6; younger users, fun chat and people that went outside every so often :smiley:
So anyone over 30 shouldn't infest internet forums? Ah well, back to my pipe and slippers then ...
The world is full of young ignorant p!ssers like him who cannot p!ss straight. :angry:
Jules, as I said before the S3oc is that way >>>>
And cbeebies is this way
http://www.bbc.co.uk/cbeebies/balamory/makes/balamory-carbingo/
Jim
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has anyone noticed the OP has only 2 posts so its likely he has not taken any interest in this thread since starting it and all you lot are b!tching, p!ssing and moaning about, what at the end of the day, is just a gearbox...
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No need to start an argument about it. I
f you do a bit more research it may may come to light that the people on the Mk5 forum are not as young as S3 original thought. :wink:
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has anyone noticed the OP has only 2 posts so its likely he has not taken any interest in this thread since starting it and all you lot are b!tching, p!ssing and moaning about, what at the end of the day, is just a gearbox...
Glad someone on this forum is so grounded. :grin:
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It always amazes me that people take so much of what others say, to heart.
I think I'm going to buy a car.
I don't know what.
What should I buy guys?
What colour?
What gearbox?
What options?
I'll not bother researching it, looking at them or driving them...I'll just drop £30k into an unknown quantity.
No...hang on...I won't.
I think I'll go and find a car I like, drive it, and make my own mind up since it will be me paying for it and living with it...so I'll buy whatever the hell I like, and not give a rats ass if I iz wrong on the internetz in the eyes of all the 'experts'.
Jeez...
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It always amazes me that people take so much of what others say, to heart.
I think I'm going to buy a car.
I don't know what.
What should I buy guys?
What colour?
What gearbox?
What options?
I'll not bother researching it, looking at them or driving them...I'll just drop £30k into an unknown quantity.
No...hang on...I won't.
I think I'll go and find a car I like, drive it, and make my own mind up since it will be me paying for it and living with it...so I'll buy whatever the hell I like, and not give a rats ass if I iz wrong on the internetz in the eyes of all the 'experts'.
Jeez...
:grin:
So true S3!! Some people just want to please other people on the net they have never met! Weirdos :laugh:
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It always amazes me that people take so much of what others say, to heart.
I think I'm going to buy a car.
I don't know what.
What should I buy guys?
What colour?
What gearbox?
What options?
I'll not bother researching it, looking at them or driving them...I'll just drop £30k into an unknown quantity.
No...hang on...I won't.
I think I'll go and find a car I like, drive it, and make my own mind up since it will be me paying for it and living with it...so I'll buy whatever the hell I like, and not give a rats ass if I iz wrong on the internetz in the eyes of all the 'experts'.
Jeez...
I agree with all of that but, can you advise me if you prefer my shirt tucked in or out please......
Jim
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I agree with all of that but, can you advise me if you prefer my shirt tucked in or out please......
Jim
Double cuff, or single?
Fitted or classic cut?
Hell...I think we may need a poll for this...too many variables :evil:
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I agree with all of that but, can you advise me if you prefer my shirt tucked in or out please......
Jim
I dont think it matters when you have your pants down :grin:
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I agree with all of that but, can you advise me if you prefer my shirt tucked in or out please......
Jim
I dont think it matters when you have your pants down :grin:
Jim, I'd run while you have the chance.
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I agree with all of that but, can you advise me if you prefer my shirt tucked in or out please......
Jim
I dont think it matters when you have your pants down :grin:
Jim, I'd run while you have the chance.
You mean towards him right?
Jim
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I can't advise you on something so personal. ETTO. :embarassed:
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Like fish in a barrel in here :laugh:
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Like fish in a barrel in here :laugh:
What i didnt get was why you thought DSG suited the R32.. i have one for a few weeks and found it horrible and annoying. I would say its better for turbo'd cars rather than n/a.
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Because the low down torque suits DSG better, it would drop the gear into the perfect rpm, would change when it ran out and was super quick.
With turbo cars the car drop below the boost rpm, changes before it runs out or drops down at low speeds into boost. The slight delay would also cause issues when manoeuvring quickly into a gap out of a junction for example. Quattro resolves some of that as the grip is there.
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Because the low down torque suits DSG better, it would drop the gear into the perfect rpm, would change when it ran out and was super quick.
With turbo cars the car drop below the boost rpm, changes before it runs out or drops down at low speeds into boost. The slight delay would also cause issues when manoeuvring quickly into a gap out of a junction for example. Quattro resolves some of that as the grip is there.
That doesnt really make sense.. when you put your foot down the dsg automatically drops down a gear (or 2) to the exact point where the turbos kick in. Hence why its better for cars that rely on a turbo like the gti but more so the gtd. Super quick it is to change.. i will give you that.
The fact that the R32 has much more low down torque means it really doesnt need to drop down as much.. the dsg r32 I has was horrible for this. If you wanted slightly more speed it would drop down 2 gears and scare the sh!t out of anyone walking past... as you eased of the throttle slightly it would be back in 6th just as you are ready to hit the throttle again :angry:
:sick:
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Because the low down torque suits DSG better, it would drop the gear into the perfect rpm, would change when it ran out and was super quick.
This is why I think it suits the TDIs so well...it's programmed not to drop so many gears as there is way more torque there.
I like DSG on the 170 TDIs.
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Because the low down torque suits DSG better, it would drop the gear into the perfect rpm, would change when it ran out and was super quick.
With turbo cars the car drop below the boost rpm, changes before it runs out or drops down at low speeds into boost. The slight delay would also cause issues when manoeuvring quickly into a gap out of a junction for example. Quattro resolves some of that as the grip is there.
That doesnt really make sense.. when you put your foot down the dsg automatically drops down a gear (or 2) to the exact point where the turbos kick in. Hence why its better for cars that rely on a turbo like the gti but more so the gtd. Super quick it is to change.. i will give you that.
The fact that the R32 has much more low down torque means it really doesnt need to drop down as much.. the dsg r32 I has was horrible for this. If you wanted slightly more speed it would drop down 2 gears and scare the sh!t out of anyone walking past... as you eased of the throttle slightly it would be back in 6th just as you are ready to hit the throttle again :angry:
:sick:
This is why it wins in the R32 :cool:
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Because the low down torque suits DSG better, it would drop the gear into the perfect rpm, would change when it ran out and was super quick.
With turbo cars the car drop below the boost rpm, changes before it runs out or drops down at low speeds into boost. The slight delay would also cause issues when manoeuvring quickly into a gap out of a junction for example. Quattro resolves some of that as the grip is there.
That doesnt really make sense.. when you put your foot down the dsg automatically drops down a gear (or 2) to the exact point where the turbos kick in. Hence why its better for cars that rely on a turbo like the gti but more so the gtd. Super quick it is to change.. i will give you that.
The fact that the R32 has much more low down torque means it really doesnt need to drop down as much.. the dsg r32 I has was horrible for this. If you wanted slightly more speed it would drop down 2 gears and scare the sh!t out of anyone walking past... as you eased of the throttle slightly it would be back in 6th just as you are ready to hit the throttle again :angry:
:sick:
This is why it wins in the R32 :cool:
This is why it sucks :grin:
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best thing about the kick down in the R32; scaring people and seeing the 'did a golf just make that noise' look :cool:
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best thing about the kick down in the R32; scaring people and seeing the 'did a golf just make that noise' look :cool:
also available in manual :cool:
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Locked following complaints about you know who :lipsrsealed: