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Title: Change of Career
Post by: Toby on 10 October 2011, 17:33
im a week away from 21 and bored.

currently a plumber ( for 5 year's)

work for us has slooowed right up im on call this week, and i finished at 3. nothing elce in! :undecided:

iv been looking on to other jobs, oil rigging etc and gas safe, but its finding the right company!

i would change career compleetly, but i can NOT have less than £26000 a year, as to financial commitments!

any one? :cry:
Title: Re: Change of Career
Post by: daz veedub on 10 October 2011, 17:40
lucky u have a job really mate  :smiley:

theres feck all out there  :angry: :sad:
Title: Re: Change of Career
Post by: Toby on 10 October 2011, 17:41
yeah i am! but i can see this company going down the pan in  a few month's!!

i cant afford to be jobless even for 2 weeks! and the dole wont cover my outgoing's!

if i can get out before then its all good!
Title: Re: Change of Career
Post by: Ant1981 on 10 October 2011, 17:47
Usually a change of career will see a drop of salary for a little while, so it's a tough call.
Title: Re: Change of Career
Post by: Jay on 10 October 2011, 17:53
turning 21 and needing no less than 26k?  :shocked:

at that age I was happily living on 18k going partying every weekend getting legless and renting a large 2 bed flat 5 mins walk from the town centre  :grin:

oh how times change!





* admittedly I was living in the dump that is Gravesend  :laugh: 
Title: Re: Change of Career
Post by: damien010685 on 10 October 2011, 18:04
Oil Industry is flooded with people wanting roustie jobs but you could try an agency like Atlantic Resourcing a roustie will make about 24 to 28k depends on who you work for.... Would it not be easier to just find another plumbing job?  26k salary at 21 as jay said thats a lot like
Title: Re: Change of Career
Post by: Thom89 on 10 October 2011, 18:07
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe1a1wHxTyo

Thom
Title: Re: Change of Career
Post by: DOA on 10 October 2011, 18:15
I think you need a reality check unless you have training in some other trades that pay the same or better (and if you do, why arent you doing them already?). Get on the jobsites and slap your CV on and see what you get offered by the agencies but a change of career isnt going to draw you such a high wage at that age without training or qualifications.
Title: Re: Change of Career
Post by: Ant1981 on 10 October 2011, 18:24
Maybe for a change, work for an M&E maintenance company. It won't be full on doing plumbing, it might involve AHU filter changes, the odd light bulb change, it gets you away for a bit, but the wages will be similar and you may get a van and fuel card too.
Title: Re: Change of Career
Post by: Tazzy on 10 October 2011, 22:14
but i can NOT have less than £26000 a year

feck'in ell, wouldnt mind earning that myself, im 28, with a house, 2 kids and 2 (3) cars to run, trying living on £12k a year and then tell me its difficult!!

ive got a folder full of qualifications and not one is worth anything today  :undecided:
Title: Re: Change of Career
Post by: Jack3559 on 10 October 2011, 23:30
* admittedly I was living in the dump that is Gravesend  :laugh: 

 :sick: :sick:

Surprised you made it out without some sort of genital rotting disease!
Title: Re: Change of Career
Post by: Toby on 11 October 2011, 07:26
Yea, well iv been doing additional qualifications , but it's really more of a bordum
Thing, I'd like to look in to being a sky engineer etc

I get what your saying, change of career will result in drop o earnings ,

But I really can't drop below that, bills rent etc and then saving for mortgage to.

Iv found a possible job, got to call them today and see if I can get in with them and then get my gas safe :) that pays £10000 over what I earn now.

I would love to work away from home, I.e on the rigs. Not sure if I could get a job with no previous experience tho :/
Title: Re: Change of Career
Post by: Jay on 11 October 2011, 07:37
* admittedly I was living in the dump that is Gravesend  :laugh: 

 :sick: :sick:

Surprised you made it out without some sort of genital rotting disease!

Just lucky I guess, lucky I didn't go with every shlllaaaaaaag that offered it! :sick: one or two a weekend is enough, with repeat offenders if they were good :laugh:
Title: Re: Change of Career
Post by: DOA on 11 October 2011, 17:52
and then saving for mortgage to.

Simple solution then, stop saving for a mortgage lol. I find that when I ask for everything I want I only ever get a percentage of it, thats life  :smiley:.
Title: Re: Change of Career
Post by: Toby on 11 October 2011, 17:58
im not saving that much towards one! but enough!!

it dont help that the mrs is still at collage, and contributes £150 a month  :undecided: but that cant be helped.
Title: Re: Change of Career
Post by: Jay on 11 October 2011, 19:53
im not saving that much towards one! but enough!!

it dont help that the mrs is still at collage, and contributes £150 a month  :undecided: but that cant be helped.

how about down sizing from a house to a 1 bed flat, that'll be cheaper on rent and council tax, unless you are getting a VERY good deal on the house you are in.
Title: Re: Change of Career
Post by: Toby on 11 October 2011, 19:59
im not saving that much towards one! but enough!!

it dont help that the mrs is still at collage, and contributes £150 a month  :undecided: but that cant be helped.

how about down sizing from a house to a 1 bed flat, that'll be cheaper on rent and council tax, unless you are getting a VERY good deal on the house you are in.

£600 pm for a 3 bed semi with parking :) which will be the house I will be buying in a few years time :)

( gfs step dad brought it for us )
Title: Re: Change of Career
Post by: golf-sib on 11 October 2011, 20:50
Hard call, I bought a house at 21 (now 22). My salary isn't great neither is my partners, and ontop of that I have a daughter.

House seems like a good deal, what about selling possessions and downsizing them like car, from the savings pour the additional funds into buying that house, then all you will have is a mortgage rather than rent+saving?

It's hard to say what is advisable as I don't know what your outgoings are like... If anything eliminate any outgoings you don't need...

I manage on a combined income of 28k, with
2 Bed house (Mortgaged)
All the usual bills
Daughter
2 Loans
Small amount on credit card
and still have money left over...

But finding a job that pays that well at your age is hard, I know even British Gas is struggling. As I guy I know never bothered doing any private work always passed it on, won't do a job that pays less than £120 etc... and is now moaning he has no overtime or extra income since the OT dried up and the hours reduced. Swapping careers will see a drop from that salary as said already.

Maintenance companies don't pay as well as they use to, the market is open to companies he win contracts to the lowest bidder.
Title: Re: Change of Career
Post by: Toby on 11 October 2011, 21:14
yeah i compleetley understand, but we need 2 car's! iv just got a new one! i dont drink, or smoke and i dont have any hoby's! i guess its just the car and buying nice cloths for my self!

tbh i cant really cut down or trim anything elce tbh :\

ill stick with this for a while, but the work is dead.

british gas are booming! they got the drainage contract! and we had 8 engeneers leave and join them! , but i dont have enough experiance on hpwj :(

Title: Re: Change of Career
Post by: johnnyvr6 on 11 October 2011, 21:31
im a week away from 21 and bored.

currently a plumber ( for 5 year's)

work for us has slooowed right up im on call this week, and i finished at 3. nothing elce in! :undecided:

iv been looking on to other jobs, oil rigging etc and gas safe, but its finding the right company!

i would change career compleetly, but i can NOT have less than £26000 a year, as to financial commitments!

any one? :cry:

my mate does scaffolding on the rigs in the north sea he is on 280 a day,i have just passed my welding level 3 so he is trying to get me on doing pipe welding or underwater welding,why dont you try agency's that deal with offshore work the money is good but you do 2 week on 2 week off
Title: Re: Change of Career
Post by: Toby on 11 October 2011, 21:37
im going to look in to rigging! but all the site's iv found want £100's of pounds!  :sick:
Title: Re: Change of Career
Post by: johnnyvr6 on 11 October 2011, 21:44
you will have to lay some money out,the survival is about 500 where you have to get out of a helicopter  underwater,and your medical probs 50-100,but the money you make if your game is 60000+ so it is worth it,and they do a drugs test so if you like to dabble give it a few months thats what i got told and its not like i was a drugy or owt lol
Title: Re: Change of Career
Post by: Toby on 11 October 2011, 21:48
thats fine!

lol i have never touched drug's  :cool:

applied on one site! my gf's step dad's ,brothers, son works on the rig's earn's over 100k a year!
Title: Re: Change of Career
Post by: golf-sib on 11 October 2011, 21:52
thats fine!

lol i have never touched drug's  :cool:

applied on one site! my gf's step dad's ,brothers, son works on the rig's earn's over 100k a year!

I'm in the wrong field, where do I sign up?  :grin:
Title: Re: Change of Career
Post by: damien010685 on 11 October 2011, 21:52
im a week away from 21 and bored.

currently a plumber ( for 5 year's)

work for us has slooowed right up im on call this week, and i finished at 3. nothing elce in! :undecided:

iv been looking on to other jobs, oil rigging etc and gas safe, but its finding the right company!

i would change career compleetly, but i can NOT have less than £26000 a year, as to financial commitments!

any one? :cry:

my mate does scaffolding on the rigs in the north sea he is on 280 a day,i have just passed my welding level 3 so he is trying to get me on doing pipe welding or underwater welding,why dont you try agency's that deal with offshore work the money is good but you do 2 week on 2 week off

Not every Job is 2+2 as i said Try Atlantic resourcing... There is a few companies in Aberdeen that now do a base package which includes Banksman or rigging as well as offshore survival medical and the Mist course which is required... Dont listen to people telling you to pay for these courses Most companies will put you threw them all mate... I have a few mates that have bought there courses and 2 yrs later still cant get work... In most cases offshore its luck or who you know...  A good Company to fire your cv in to would be RBG they do a lot of various mechanical and even plumbing offshore

thats fine!

lol i have never touched drug's  :cool:

applied on one site! my gf's step dad's ,brothers, son works on the rig's earn's over 100k a year!

To be making that kind of money he must be in specialist tools or high up in the office
Title: Re: Change of Career
Post by: Toby on 11 October 2011, 21:55
yeah i sent a email to atlantic resorucing! see what i hear back from them! but tbh, i have f all experiance and theres so many field's to choose from! and as im only.. nearly 21 i dont mind what i do tbh, id turn my hand to anything!!

yeah he is high up! works in norway i think! next time hes down ill have a word

you work on the rig's?
Title: Re: Change of Career
Post by: johnnyvr6 on 11 October 2011, 21:57
It's all good,I know they are taking people on in Dubai in any trade and you can make loads of money,I would try myself but don't fancy it,it's to hot lol
Title: Re: Change of Career
Post by: damien010685 on 11 October 2011, 21:59
It's all good,I know they are taking people on in Dubai in any trade and you can make loads of money,I would try myself but don't fancy it,it's to hot lol

Taking loads of people on Yeh time served  people mate ie scaffs Drillers mechanics welders etc

And most of them have done time on uk rigs first
Title: Re: Change of Career
Post by: Toby on 11 October 2011, 22:01
drilling and scafolding i wouldnt mind. wealding is a art, tryed it and it looked sh!tttttte!
Title: Re: Change of Career
Post by: Steve_PD on 11 October 2011, 22:02
Is that rigs in dubai?
I got a slight problem which stops me working on rigs.....








I cant swim :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: Change of Career
Post by: Toby on 11 October 2011, 22:03
i can swim, but not far  :laugh:
Title: Re: Change of Career
Post by: damien010685 on 11 October 2011, 22:04
Scaffs actually make a lot most of them are on 60k a year!!! good job to get in to and always required especially on the rustbucket sh!thole platforms in the northsea...

Im from a drilling side i.e downhole tools the easiest way to get in to that is roustie jobs which atlantic resourcing are good for...

But on a more mechanical side you should try RBG i know they hire plumbers
Title: Re: Change of Career
Post by: johnnyvr6 on 11 October 2011, 22:05
You can't swim sh!t you would be f**ked lol
Title: Re: Change of Career
Post by: damien010685 on 11 October 2011, 22:06
You can't swim sh!t you would be f**ked lol

Ud be amazed how many offshore lads cant swim!!! if something goes wrong in a chopper or a rig theres a pretty good chance your f**ked anyways :D
Title: Re: Change of Career
Post by: Phil1980 on 11 October 2011, 22:08
thats fine!

lol i have never touched drug's  :cool:

applied on one site! my gf's step dad's ,brothers, son works on the rig's earn's over 100k a year!

Probably a day rater.  

drilling and scafolding i wouldnt mind. wealding is a art, tryed it and it looked sh!tttttte!

If you don't mind hard graft go for drilling if you want similar money to start off and a lot easier job scaffolding would be your best bet.

Offshore does give you a very comfortable lifestyle but once you are in the industry it is very difficult to turn your back on it if you don't like it because you will be so used to the money that going back to a job on the beach will be a huge pay cut.

Title: Re: Change of Career
Post by: johnnyvr6 on 11 October 2011, 22:10
Very true tbh I would not trust a helicopter there not like planes that can glide they just plummet to the ground very fast lol
Title: Re: Change of Career
Post by: Toby on 11 October 2011, 22:10
lol yeah i bet!

well really id like to get away from plumbing, but if i could get my foot in the door with the plumbing then i dont mind  :undecided:



If you don't mind hard graft go for drilling if you want similar money to start off and a lot easier job scaffolding would be your best bet.



i dont mind hard graft!!
Title: Re: Change of Career
Post by: Steve_PD on 11 October 2011, 22:10
You can't swim sh!t you would be f**ked lol

Ud be amazed how many offshore lads cant swim!!! if something goes wrong in a chopper or a rig theres a pretty good chance your f**ked anyways :D

I wouldn't make it out of the chopper for the test so wouldn't get as far as a rig
Title: Re: Change of Career
Post by: damien010685 on 11 October 2011, 22:12
lol yeah i bet!

well really id like to get away from plumbing, but if i could get my foot in the door with the plumbing then i dont mind  :undecided:



If you don't mind hard graft go for drilling if you want similar money to start off and a lot easier job scaffolding would be your best bet.



i dont mind hard graft!!
thats fine!

lol i have never touched drug's  :cool:

applied on one site! my gf's step dad's ,brothers, son works on the rig's earn's over 100k a year!

Probably a day rater.  

drilling and scafolding i wouldnt mind. wealding is a art, tryed it and it looked sh!tttttte!

If you don't mind hard graft go for drilling if you want similar money to start off and a lot easier job scaffolding would be your best bet.

Offshore does give you a very comfortable lifestyle but once you are in the industry it is very difficult to turn your back on it if you don't like it because you will be so used to the money that going back to a job on the beach will be a huge pay cut.



Exactly Phil couldnt have said it better problem is just now there is so many people trying to get offshore... They get caught up listening to big numbers of salaries etc.. but truth of it is massive salaries are usually achieved after years of graft unless of course you have a good trade like scaffolding but even then the wages dont come for a couple of years till you get experience as my mate is finding just now 5 yrs a scaff on the beach but as he said its a diff game offshore hes still classed as a trainee..
Title: Re: Change of Career
Post by: damien010685 on 11 October 2011, 22:13
Thing is mate Plumbing is fookin good trade self employed you can make a heap!!!
Title: Re: Change of Career
Post by: Toby on 11 October 2011, 22:15
Thing is mate Plumbing is fookin good trade self employed you can make a heap!!!

it is! but its not 100% garentee work etc all the time! i was for a year, and it all became to much  :embarassed:
Title: Re: Change of Career
Post by: damien010685 on 11 October 2011, 22:17
Lol move to aberdeen you cant get a plumber for love nor money!!!! the guy nextdoor to my best mate has a m5 outside and hes a 1 man band at 27 lol
Title: Re: Change of Career
Post by: Phil1980 on 11 October 2011, 22:18
Everyone does want to get offshore, the company I work for had 300 cv's sent in in a week when we last advertised for two trainee positions.  I'm glad I got offshore when I did because it seems harder now.  

It would certainly help to get your survival paid for and passed but other than that pure persistance will be what eventually gets your foot in the door.  Even if you have sent a cv to a company before send it again in a couple of months also get on the phone to companies and ask what positions they have going. :smiley:
Title: Re: Change of Career
Post by: damien010685 on 11 October 2011, 22:20
Or just camp outside an oil company in aberdeen worked for the polish lad hahaha!!! Il be gracing the shores of norwich tomoz phil coming off the ensco92 after a grueling 3 weeks!!!
Title: Re: Change of Career
Post by: Toby on 11 October 2011, 22:21
i wouldnt mind paying for the course myself if i knew i had a job at the end of it ..

id move to australia if i could but we got to many comitments down here! :(
Title: Re: Change of Career
Post by: damien010685 on 11 October 2011, 22:23
i wouldnt mind paying for the course myself if i knew i had a job at the end of it ..

id move to australia if i could but we got to many comitments down here! :(

No guarantee of a job bud many people do it its just keep trying with cv's mate and if you know anyone in the industry that helps 
Title: Re: Change of Career
Post by: Phil1980 on 11 October 2011, 22:25
Or just camp outside an oil company in aberdeen worked for the polish lad hahaha!!! Il be gracing the shores of norwich tomoz phil coming off the ensco92 after a grueling 3 weeks!!!


Nice,  I just got back from a three weeker, on courses this week though.  You working on Perenco at the moment?


Toby, if its what you want to do then keep plugging away and you will get the opportunity and from my point of view you won't look back once you get offshore.


Title: Re: Change of Career
Post by: damien010685 on 11 October 2011, 22:26
Ensco 92 for Eon  And aye i see ya still have to pay £5 to get out of norwich  lol what a scam that is!!!
Title: Re: Change of Career
Post by: Phil1980 on 11 October 2011, 22:27
Ensco 92 for Eon  And aye i see ya still have to pay £5 to get out of norwich  lol what a scam that is!!!

Yes what a joke, and its going up to a £10.00 in January.   :grin:

Title: Re: Change of Career
Post by: ditchyboy on 12 October 2011, 21:18
im trying to get into plumbing, done my tech cert 2 at college (night course) and i am now trying to get a plumber who can pay me to work with him or her so i can finish my full level 2. Worse thing is if i dont get it done within a certain time i will lose the lot so it will be 2 years wasted and a fair bit of cash wasted too!