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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: am1w on 11 September 2011, 18:56
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Discovered this in the morning.
The stitching is coming off the drivers seat and the Jacara material has developed a tear. There also seems to be a hole in the padding underneath. Won't last long. Have already e-mailed the Warranty Manager.
I am of slim build and I am positive my petit posterior has not been responsible for this.
(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac50/am1w/IMG00447-20110911-1429.jpg)
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good to see VW are keeping up standards :laugh:
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:shocked: :sad:
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Im not impressed with the seat material either. .
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Im not impressed with the seat material either. .
Neither am I.
Because the Jacara cloth is quite an open weave the stitching can come unstuck. They should have done a double or different type seam along the length. You will also notice the bolster material has a closer weave.
Hope they will replace it under warranty. What an absolute PITA.
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Good luck.
You have a better case than me and a far superior warrenty person and dealer, they said mine was ware and tear.
I find it funny when i have a mk1 GTI i have had for over 20 years, done 60000 miles in (90K total) and the bolster has near zero 'wear and tear' (same amount as the day i bought it) (a car known for bolster wear!)
I had a Leon Cupra R with optional recaro large bolster seats whos bolster had little to no ware after 40K and there much larger than the mk6 seats bolsters.
I had an Ibiza with optional recaros with little to no bolster wear after 40K
And im 3 stone smaller now than i use to be but it must be my fault my seats have so much wear after 3K. :grin:
But then again they would only screw it up changing the cover known my luck so maybe i would be better just buying it myself and save the time/hassle and damage they would cause!
Rant over. :embarassed:
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Good luck.
You have a better case than me and a far superior warrenty person and dealer, they said mine was ware and tear.
I find it funny when i have a mk1 GTI i have had for over 20 years, done 60000 miles in (90K total) and the bolster has near zero 'wear and tear' (same amount as the day i bought it) unlike the mk6
I had a Leon Cupra R with optional recaro large bolster seats whos bolster had little ware after 40K and there much larger than the mk6's
I had an Ibiza with optional recaros with no bolster wear after 40K
And im 3 stone smaller now than i use to be but it must be my fault. :grin:
In my e-mail to her, (The Warranty Manager who is devine looking amd lives 10 doors away from me), I stressed that my petit posterior was faultless. I was about to suggest it could only have been her rump that ripped the stitching! :evil: :laugh:
Seriously, I am an 11 stone 6' 1.25" person with a very small seat. There is no way I could have stretched and ripped the fabric.
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How do you get in and out the car is the question?
Some people sit and twist.
Some lift themselfs over.
Some slide in
etc
etc.
Its NOT your fault period.
Im sure they will replace it.
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How do you get in and out the car is the question?
Some people sit and twist.
Some lift themselfs over.
Some slide in
etc
etc.
Good lord, let me see. I sit and twist. But I do so elegantly.
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i had the same problem with an Audi A3, dealer tried telling me it was the way i sat. So i went to another dealer and they swapped the seats.
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i had the same problem with an Audi A3, dealer tried telling me it was the way i sat. So i went to another dealer and they swapped the seats.
Hope they do the right thing. I know a place that can re-stitch it, but why payout for VWs error.
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I've made it look a bit better by pushing the torn stitches out of view.
However, a seat base change is still required.
Before:
(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac50/am1w/IMG00447-20110911-1429.jpg)
After:
(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac50/am1w/IMG00453-20110911-2149.jpg)
After and In-focus for p3asa:
(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac50/am1w/IMG00455-20110912-1347.jpg)
...... and it looks worse!
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I think the second picture only looks better as it is out of focus and blurry compared to the first.
My main concern is if they changed the seat base then the shade of the fabric would be different to that of the back as well as the passenger side.
Do you know what would be involved if it were to be stitched?
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wow, there's been a lot of Metro-sexual-ness going on round here, talk of stitching techniques and tight bottoms.
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:smiley: :smiley:
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Even a very svelte 11 stone has greater mass due to downward movement when sitting down!
I would tell you its wear and tear!
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I think the second picture only looks better as it is out of focus and blurry compared to the first.
My main concern is if they changed the seat base then the shade of the fabric would be different to that of the back as well as the passenger side.
Do you know what would be involved if it were to be stitched?
Done for you. Looks worse.
(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac50/am1w/IMG00455-20110912-1347.jpg)
I'll check this Saturday how much it would cost to re-stitch it, that is, if it can be done.
Even a very svelte 11 stone has greater mass due to downward movement when sitting down!
I would tell you its wear and tear!
I don't agree with you that it is wear and tear. That particular area of the seat has no contact with my thighs, is the least stressed and on careful examination more and more of the stitching is coming loose. Bad workmanship.
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I would unpick your repair, and be down at the dealers politely suggesting that they fit a new cover.
I don't understand why some dealers will try to turn people away, whilst others will just get on and make the claim. It's not as if the dealers will be paying for it. It's another job for them, even if it is VW paying the bill.
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Because if they go ahead and do it and VW warranty say well you shouldn't of done it they fine them 25 times the cost of what they invoiced VW for.........
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I wasn't suggesting that they should just do it without having a claim authorised. Some dealers will just say no without even asking the question.
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Dropped into my dealer.
Manager agreed that seat base needed replacing. Stitching definitely faulty.
Warranty Manager back at work tomorrow.
Will see her Friday.
Should be no problem authorisng replacement as a Warranty Claim especially as the car has only done 4850 miles.
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Good news.
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Good news.
They have replaced a few I think!
Will need the car for a whole day. They will put a specially trained guy to do this.
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Be careful usually they replace just the seat cover!!! :angry:
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Be careful usually they replace just the seat cover!!! :angry:
No, he said it was the whole seat base. He'll show me the old one. I trust them and they like me very, very much!
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They have replaced a few I think!
Will need the car for a whole day. They will put a specially trained idiot to do this.
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They have replaced a few I think!
Will need the car for a whole day. They will put a specially trained idiot to do this.
But that's the UK for you. Heavily populated with them.
This proportion of the population will increase as the government aims to curb immigration.
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Even a very svelte 11 stone has greater mass due to downward movement when sitting down!
tsk. i can hear newton spinning in his grave.
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Even a very svelte 11 stone has greater mass due to downward movement when sitting down!
tsk. i can hear newton spinning in his grave.
:laugh:
I was going to ignore that.
I think he needs to learn some Physics/Applied Mechanics and know the difference between force and mass.
Hope Newton can rest now.
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gosh, it's not like you to nit-pick :lipsrsealed:
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gosh, it's not like you to nit-pick :lipsrsealed:
I am a bit weary.
Given up policing the world. :rolleyes:
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Be careful usually they replace just the seat cover!!! :angry:
Dropped in to see the Warranty Manager at her house which is 10 dooors down the street from mine. She is so stunningly good looking.
They will replace the seat cover and not the whole base.
I am accused of having a bony arse!
The Japenese technician, who is meticulous and who has done a few seat-cover replacements, will be attending to my car.
Good enough for me.
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Good enough for me that too.
So your bony arse cut the stitching :grin: :tongue:
I do wonder how much the covers are as i may replace the upper bolster one at some point. Bet there hundreds
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Good enough for me that too.
So your bony arse cut the stitching :grin: :tongue:
I do wonder how much the covers are as i may replace the upper bolster one at some point. Bet there hundreds
I'll find out for you.
But if mike. is watching, he'll be first with the price!
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maybe you should see if whilst the Japanese guy attends to your seats, she can attend to your boney arse for "destroying an icon"
tsk! :laugh:
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Good news then. Yes your new picture did make it look worse.
Make sure the new one matches, fabric wise.
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@Mr_F: The fabric tear is at the front edge of the seat and nowwhere near my bony bottom. She should stop looking at my cute bottom and pay more attention to my seams. I did try and explain to her that my backside was quite far removed from the tear in the cloth and the undone stitching. But she kept looking at my bottom and would have none of it. Anyway, she agreed that the fabric will be replaced under warranty. BTW, the Japanese tech is 6'4" tall, also got a bony arse (I know, I should not have looked! :shocked:) and looks like a male model. He's worked on my car before and is an immaculate worker.
@p3asa: She did confirm that there should be no matching problems as they have replaced a few on much older cars than mine. However, knowing my luck, I'll get the short straw. Hope they don't screw anything else whilst they are at it. Again, knowing my luck, they probably will and it won't give me much pleasure.
All this because of my bony arse.
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Today, I gave the car in for a new driver's seat base cover replacement.
They found that the foam had split underneath and have ordered a new foam seat base which will arrive tomorrow.
I told them that the foam had split but they did not agree with this initially.
Car will be ready tomorrow or Monday. So, it's a boiling weekend on Pubic Transport for me. Nice.
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The good news is that you won't have this problem if you buy another new GTI as they don't do Tartan seats anymore :smiley:
Careful on the public transport after last time chap :sad:
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Not quite true, Doc.
You see, I do have a bony arse and two bum bones stretch the leather considerably.
I have destroyed every leather seat I perched on.
Can't win, unless I get some implants stuck in my posterior.
The condition prevents me from sitting on a hard park bench whilst clothed in my flasher mac. :shocked:
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No he will just suffer the saggy + creased leather problem. :grin:
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I must admit, sagged, shagged and shiny leather seats look vile.
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I think i will buy myself a spare seat cover. :smiley:
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I must admit, sagged, shagged and shiny leather seats look vile.
Agreed - get yourself a foam block :grin:
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What is clear to me is that in my particular case a bum (cheek) job is the order of the day.
I suppose you've all got well padded posteriors that don't wreck seats. :rolleyes:
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Seeing that yours has failed so early, I wonder if others are going to suffer wear like Mk1 and 2's do/did as they get older.
At least with the older cars, at the moment you can buy a mint passenger seat for very little money and swap the bits over in no time at all. That's all good whilst there are still plenty of doner cars around. However, how many Mk6's will still be around in 20 years time? I'm sure frazzled electronics will render them scrap long before then.
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Collected car just now.
Perfect job.
Car beautifully valeted and not a swirl mark in sight.
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Don't we just love a happy ending. :smiley:
(http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/6400000/Snow-White-and-the-Seven-Dwarfs-Wallpaper-snow-white-and-the-seven-dwarfs-6496592-1024-768.jpg)
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Don't we just love a happy ending. :smiley:
(http://www.tripletsandus.com/disney/snow-white/jpg/Snow-White-Prince.jpg)
Typical reaction from a Grey car owner. :rolleyes:
Like Andy and Fergie, I suppose? :kiss:
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Seeing that yours has failed so early, I wonder if others are going to suffer wear like Mk1 and 2's do/did as they get older.
At least with the older cars, at the moment you can buy a mint passenger seat for very little money and swap the bits over in no time at all. That's all good whilst there are still plenty of doner cars around. However, how many Mk6's will still be around in 20 years time? I'm sure frazzled electronics will render them scrap long before then.
My mk6's bolster is showing ware to the point im tempted to buy a replacment cover for the time it does go through.
Its funny i have owned my mk1 for 20 years now and its bolster looks less worn after 60,000 miles/20years of me getting in and out of it (93K total) than the mk6 one does after 6000 miles. Yet im told by VW its normal ware and tear. :angry:
The way mk5's are rusting most mk6's will be a pile of brown dust, if not crushed because of over priced electronic spares.
I have been looking for a good mk2 and I did not even realise there was so many piles of over priced crap as there are, some owners are way deluded.
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I can remember looking at two and three year old mk2s back in the day and many were already piles of crap back then. The sort of people that bought/leased them very often got them purely for their image and didn't look after them. Not much has changed.
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I wonder if you can buy the tarten material. You use to be able to from a place in Germany for the mk5. :smug:
I feel a plan coming together.
You often see GTD interior for sale, a retrim with half leather and GTI style centre sections and keep my original interior packed away. :smug:
I blaim this guy for giving me the idea
http://www.rforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=1629.0
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Those seats are amazing. The whole car is amazing (especially the colour!!).
I don't like the wheels though, should've kept the Tallawhatisits.
Apart from that :drool:
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love the car.. dislike the wheels also. but easily fixed. :cool:
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The best hijack! :grin:
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I have been looking for a good mk2 and I did not even realise there was so many piles of over priced crap as there are, some owners are way deluded.
I looked at loads before finding my one owner full history car. :cool: The problem with most 20 odd year old cars is that if they have had several owners, at some point they will have changed hands for very little money and been treated almost as disposable.
End of hijack.
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I am the master of hijacks, so the more of these the merrier! :grin:
Do feel free!
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Well I thought it was perfect but after some use the seat cover started puckering in places.
Gave the car in yesterday and it's now fixed. Yet to check and collect it. I wonder what they have damaged.
Oh, on my way to VW I kerbed my nearside alloy. How, I have no clue. Tiny mark but a tad annoying none the less. Soon be fixed by Auto Audio.
Fix one thing and damage another. Ying and yang. :rolleyes:
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Not relevant to the seat post admittedly but my Mark 2 (Snoop's earlier comment) is spotless. Totally unmodified, not a spot of rust on it, just totally original. Everyone comments how mint it is. So there are some good 'uns out there.
Sometimes I think I'm going to sell it to move onto my next project (e.g. a good Mk2 16v) but they're nigh on impossible to find so I think the next project might have to be a different marque.
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I wonder if you can buy the tarten material. You use to be able to from a place in Germany for the mk5. :smug:
I feel a plan coming together.
You often see GTD interior for sale, a retrim with half leather and GTI style centre sections and keep my original interior packed away. :smug:
I did similar with my Mk3 Anniversary.
Sourced a set of Mk4, heated, side airbag Recaros and had them half leather covered using new Mk3 Anniversary seat covers to give the correct cloth...works a treat.
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I would like to put some Jacara cloth inserts on the doors instead of the grey material.
Need to find the German supplier.
Help would be appreciated.
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I would like to put some Jacara cloth inserts on the doors instead of the grey material.
Need to find the German supplier.
Help would be appreciated.
reminds me of this ....... :grin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsgPGMrouE8
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I would like to put some Jacara cloth inserts on the doors instead of the grey material.
Need to find the German supplier.
Help would be appreciated.
Do you not think that may look a little OTT?, maybe get a photo of the interior and get someone to photoshop the extra Jacara in for you to see how it looks.
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Yep, you're right. Too OTT. Scrub that idea!
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Collected the car. They did not change the cover but re-fitted it. Still some puckering along one of the seams. They suggested I use it for 3 months and see if it settles.
Reasonable.
But they scratched the runner.
I give up.