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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: Snoopy on 14 April 2011, 20:20
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I have read this from the R forum. LINK (http://www.rforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=1169.30)
Which i find odd myself after reading the design breifs for the EA888 from VW and their suppliers.
Apparently, the original plan was to use a development of the current GTI's EA888 engine, but it seems that VW engineers are having problems getting that engine to deliver more than 250 bhp without compromising its reliability and longevity . That being the case,
Can i ask your source of this please? As the block, head, all internals according to the official documents were designed and repeatedly extensivly tested for ">100KW/L" and torque of ">175Nm/L"
Yes. Georg Kacher talking to Michael Dick.
Is Michael Dick actually quoted as saying those exact words?
As it does seem odd that the original design documents, test result documents all state it meets the original design criterior of ">100KW/L" and torque of ">175Nm/L" for >300,000Km.
Sorry to take so long to reply to your question Snoop',
Michael Dick is quoted as saying that 5-cylinder engine will definitely be used across both VW and Audi models. Issues with 2.0-litre EA888 not being good beyond 230 bhp comes from VW engine chief and VW Scirocco performance in 2010 Nurbergring 24-hour race, which is why they've gone for the 5-cylinder engine in 2011 and not 300 bhp version of EA888.
Gone from more than 250 down to 230 even further away from the design minimum spec it was designed too..
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So what does this mean in layman's terms?
Lots of blown re-mapped engines?
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Doubt it.
I don't use my 260 ish bhp very often , I'm sure most remapped GTIs are driven normally 95% of the time.
If you screw it all of the time then you're asking for trouble, same goes for non mapped engines.
Feel free to wish me a happy thousandth post. :smiley:
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Doubt it.
I don't use my 260 ish bhp very often , I'm sure most remapped GTIs are driven normally 95% of the time.
If you screw it all of the time then you're asking for trouble, same goes for non mapped engines.
Feel free to wish me a happy thousandth post. :smiley:
i dont use the full 265 all the time... but I would say it gets used atleast once every journey. Could this be why i experienced so many problems with my car after map?? :undecided:
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Mines been problem free with the bluefin. Used at least once a journey too, sometimes the whole journey :evil:
Not that often though.
I take it off now and again just so I remember how it was before.
You still REVO'd? Got the insurance sorted now?
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Mines been problem free with the bluefin. Used at least once a journey too, sometimes the whole journey :evil:
Not that often though.
I take off now and again just so I remember how it was before.
You still REVO'd? Got the insurance sorted now?
revo is off for now... but will be back in the next week or so :evil: :evil:
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Mines been problem free with the bluefin. Used at least once a journey too, sometimes the whole journey :evil:
Not that often though.
I take off now and again just so I remember how it was before.
You still REVO'd? Got the insurance sorted now?
revo is off for now... but will be back in the next week or so :evil: :evil:
Let the good times roll :evil: :evil: :evil:
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Roll on the 2.5 5 pot in the Golf then..... :drool:
(not that I'd be able to afford one)
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Am on REVO stage two with no problems at all! Think people worry too much. Look at the stage 3 guys running 380 bhp without any problems.
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Am on REVO stage two with no problems at all! Think people worry too much. Look at the stage 3 guys running 380 bhp without any problems.
BOOOOOOOOOM!!!! :evil: :laugh:
Eventually! :evil: :evil:
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I think VW are looking at this from a warranty perspective. Too many failures will cost them money and reputation. The reference to the LeMans Rocco suggests this is also about race engines to an extant and these tend to spend most of their time at WOT high in the revs. Not exactly what the average remapped MKVI owner does.
Nick
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Am on REVO stage two with no problems at all! Think people worry too much. Look at the stage 3 guys running 380 bhp without any problems.
BOOOOOOOOOM!!!! :evil: :laugh:
Eventually! :evil: :evil:
The sound of the Turbo blowing up :laugh:
Good luck Kenny. Hope it lasts long enough to enjoy it.
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Have a look through the mk4/mk5 sections.
Very few problems with decent remaps.
Unless you screw it all of the time of course, in that case you'll break any engine. And your licence.
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If your having anything more than a mild map from a trusted supplier I'd advise getting it done somewhere with a dynamometer* so they can check the AFR* is as it should be :wink:
AFR = Air to fuel ratio
DYNOMOMETER = Rolling road
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Am on REVO stage two with no problems at all! Think people worry too much. Look at the stage 3 guys running 380 bhp without any problems.
BOOOOOOOOOM!!!! :evil: :laugh:
Eventually! :evil: :evil:
The sound of the Turbo blowing up :laugh:
Good luck Kenny. Hope it lasts long enough to enjoy it.
My god Steve you are quite the jealous one of the MarkSixers! :cool: 380Bhp is from the APR GT2860 RS ( i think) turbo which is more than capable of that sort of power!
I dont have 380 bhp, but if I did, it would be the APR kit. Fantastic bit of kit hence the reason of the price! Remeber its not BHP that kills engines and snaps con rods :wink:
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My god Steve you are quite the jealous one of the MarkSixers! :cool: 380Bhp is from the APR GT2860 RS ( i think) turbo which is more than capable of that sort of power!
I dont have 380 bhp, but if I did, it would be the APR kit. Fantastic bit of kit hence the reason of the price! Remeber its not BHP that kills engines and snaps con rods :wink:
was the same when he had the std gti (it was sooooo much better than the ed30). Then he got an ed30... and that is now the BESTEST car EVER... FACT!!!
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I was at Awesome GTI when they were mapping the APR MKVI. It made 5bhp more than my old ED30 and 9lbft less torque...on the same day :wink:
And that was without the nitrous on mine. :evil:
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I was at Awesome GTI when they were mapping the APR MKVI. It made 5bhp more than my old ED30 and 9lbft less torque...on the same day :wink:
And that was without the nitrous on mine. :evil:
Do tell more!! :drool:
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Not a lot to tell really. I was having the neuspeed pipe out on at the time and wanted back to back dyno's of any gains. The MKVI had just been on and did 372bhp and 406lbft. Mine did 367bhp and 415lbft.
The mkVI was still having some work done to it and was waiting for an APR exhaust to arrive, so it may well have done more later :smiley:
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Not a lot to tell really. I was having the neuspeed pipe out on at the time and wanted back to back dyno's of any gains. The MKVI had just been on and did 372bhp and 406lbft. Mine did 367bhp and 415lbft.
The mkVI was still having some work done to it and was waiting for an APR exhaust to arrive, so it may well have done more later :smiley:
sounds good :cool:
lets just hope saint steve doesnt read this :lipsrsealed:
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My god Steve you are quite the jealous one of the MarkSixers! :cool: 380Bhp is from the APR GT2860 RS ( i think) turbo which is more than capable of that sort of power!
I dont have 380 bhp, but if I did, it would be the APR kit. Fantastic bit of kit hence the reason of the price! Remeber its not BHP that kills engines and snaps con rods :wink:
was the same when he had the std gti (it was sooooo much better than the ed30). Then he got an ed30... and that is now the BESTEST car EVER... FACT!!!
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,28386.0.html
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^^^^^^ :grin: :grin:^^^^^^^
I had a feeling that may find it's way here! :tongue: