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So fed of my current job that I decided to be pro active and try and find something that will appeal to my creative side and something I can make a career of eventually
Signed up to a website called 'creativejobscentral.co.uk' though what the hell its £19 for 3 months subscription and will give me access to jobs that arent on typical 'Job sites'
Sent off my CV and some images as req, although I had a reply to adv that the job had been filled I did ask for some feed back to which I was told on the photography side I would of got it but they would need to access my customer service / selling skills
I Need to get out of an office job while i still can!
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good luck with the search mate,hope you find somthing, the pics on your flickr account look top notch, cant see why you'd have a problem finding a job
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cheers dude, the main thing is finding work close by really dont mind a bit of traveling but alot of the jobs i will / have been looking at will be on to start with a low wage alot lower than im on now which im happy to do as it will be something I can build into a career
and alot of the job vacc are in London but we will see just got to keep looking and pluggin away on teh freelance work
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With no kids, no mortgage and not a lot else now is the time to do this, so get on and do it.
As I think I was urging you to about six months, or longer ago.
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With no kids, no mortgage and not a lot else now is the time to do this, so get on and do it.
As I think I was urging you to about six months, or longer ago.
I know and I still really appreciate the kick up the arse! I have found a new motivation again so im looking where ever i can :)
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good luck with the search :afro:
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Good luck mate :afro:
. .alot of the job vacc are in London
Come to London !!!
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Good luck :afro:
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Good luck with this dude, i love your photography!
Have you thought about getting books about the weeknesses that have been identified and reading them in your spare "Work time" that may help? Just a thought..
Hope you find something soon! :afro:
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Good luck with this dude, i love your photography!
Have you thought about getting books about the weeknesses that have been identified and reading them in your spare "Work time" that may help? Just a thought..
All the time mate, as soon as I get CC its one of those things I try and find some tutorials of some kind or go on different sites, also subscribe to Digital Camera so always read that each month and nornally has some info on various ways of shoot, got quite a collection now :smiley:
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This makes me happy stink. You are such a creative guy and neeed to award yourself by perusing a job in a creative field. There are so many creative people in my life who just accept that they are a little 'zainy' and therefore destined for a life of soft drugs, beer and factory work. It seems like the 'cool' thing to do.
Keep pushing dude :smiley:
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cheers guys, I dont think there really is alot of photography work about but im going to keep plugging away ive found a few 'jobs' as a second tog at weddings which could be something to consider doing its not regular work but woudl give me some experience and see how it all works and i get to use the photos for my port and well ther is big ££££ in wedding photography
although im gratefull I have a job, not that I like it, but its a job it just makes me feel wasted :p
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Have you considered registering with an agency of some kind? I hav a mate who has a daytime job and has registered with an agency to do photography work on the weekends. It has been quite lucrative so far.
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I think you'll find all photographer operate on an self employed/freelance basis, that might be a better option for you.
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I think you'll find all photographer operate on an self employed/freelance basis, that might be a better option for you.
its how im currently working, have a couple of paid shoots but nothing massive in teh way of people ringing / msg me off the hook and alot of models etc generally either want TFP or to pay them!
I shoot when I can the think with my current job it does take up some wkends and evenings which means it stops me shooting as much as id like
we will see
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Get some "tasteful nude" shots :rolleyes: in amatuer photgrapher and the world is your oyster.
YEAH BABY!.
1. Do a charity calender (good portfolio & commercial nouse)
2. Get matey with a printer and make a book - sell on ebay, promote on local radio etc..get KNOWN.
3. Gets some shots of Talisa and flog to the Daily Star.
4. Do FREE promo shots for local up and coming bands - own the copyright, KERCHING!
5. Get a "Press pass" and do shoots at local professional sporting events. Sell back or vai agency/press.
6. LOTS of schools/colleges now have end of year PROMS. Get in there and do portraits.
7. Ask car show organisers to be an "official photographer", OR go, take pics, make book, sell to those who went/forum members.
8. Look on Amazon for the top selling "books with photos" COPY the format/tweak.
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So had an email yesterday from the photography studio I applied for a job at as the position has now become available
Now my first thought was Awesome. . . . . . . . . hang on this was only 3 weeks ago I applied and all of a sudden its vacant again?
I did ask why the job was free again and so quickly and they said that the person who they took on did 3 days and then decided it wasn't for them :undecided: now to me i just find that a bit odd?
Any way ive got an interview on the 18th at 2pm in Bath here is their site http://www.capturethespirit.co.uk (http://www.capturethespirit.co.uk)
now the only problem i really have is they have asked me to take along my portfolio, which is only online at the moment, im skint and haven't got a penny to my name unitl this coming sat where im working 9-2 and then recording after and all day sunday which doesn't really give me much time to go and get my images printed and get an album to whack them in etc but got to try and do it
I told my old man about this and although he knows I want to do photography he was a bit concerned about 'job security' which i agree with on him if the other guy on lasted 3 days, i cant afford to be out of work got to much debt etc that in my current job although i hate it, it is secure and pays ok
so yeah lots of things to consider at the mo but ill see how it goes, see what the pay structure is like etc etc all feels a bit scary tbh!
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What's wrong with taking your images on a memory stick?
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What's wrong with taking your images on a memory stick?
Just doesn't look professional and its alot easier to have a book / album that they an just have a quick flick through :smiley:
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I told my old man about this and although he knows I want to do photography he was a bit concerned about 'job security' which i agree with on him if the other guy on lasted 3 days, i cant afford to be out of work got to much debt etc that in my current job although i hate it, it is secure and pays ok
to be fair, you've got this problem with anynew job you take. All jobs these days are going to have at least a months probation where they can sack you off at anytime.
re the portfolio, yeah you really need something physical, if they are electronic then you're reliant on there being a computer in the interview room and their software supporting your files etc
A bound book will look professional but expensive and imposable to change / update
something like this;
http://www.ryman.co.uk/0499030853/Ryman-Indexed-Display-Book-A4-40-Pocket/Product
wont look as professional, but can be quickly updated, re-ordered etc
either way good luck, which what you choose to do.
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A nice way I was thinking to do my portfolio for product design when the time comes is in a classic brown leather A3 folio. They are about £100 but pure sex :smiley:
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Beg, borrow or steal an ipad for the interview.
Or ask about their display facilities before you go and take the images along as a pdf file or whatever is best - pdf documents are digestible by virtually anything these days.
Do they have a link to your online presence? I think you should get them to it before the interview if they haven't. They'll have far more time to consider your work (if they choose) and it shows you're switched on and 'social'. These things are important these days, especially in a creative role.
I've had people in firms I've worked at who've only lasted a day in their role (not my reports, FWIW)- it happens, people can 'fluke' or lie and trick the interviewer during an hour, but come up utter rubbish within 8 hours.
Good luck and I hope it goes well. Does anyone have job security these days?
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An iPad would be an awesome piece of kit to use to display your portfolio, very slick. Although if you don't have someone close that could lend you one, maybe another tablet of some kind so long as it's a decent sized screen.
Although my initial thought was for you to use you MacBook Pro. Still a slick way to present and could show relevance to the type of work your do. Just my thoughts.
Good luck with the interview though, man. I had an interview on Monday and am now through to a trial run tomorrow, looking forward to it but nervous as the type of work I will be doing will be a huge step forward for me from what I do now, along with a huge learning curve. All the best, Joe. :afro:
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Beg, borrow or steal an ipad for the interview.
Or ask about their display facilities before you go and take the images along as a pdf file or whatever is best - pdf documents are digestible by virtually anything these days.
Do they have a link to your online presence? I think you should get them to it before the interview if they haven't. They'll have far more time to consider your work (if they choose) and it shows you're switched on and 'social'. These things are important these days, especially in a creative role.
I've had people in firms I've worked at who've only lasted a day in their role (not my reports, FWIW)- it happens, people can 'fluke' or lie and trick the interviewer during an hour, but come up utter rubbish within 8 hours.
Good luck and I hope it goes well. Does anyone have job security these days?
Beg, borrow or steal an ipad for the interview.
Or ask about their display facilities before you go and take the images along as a pdf file or whatever is best - pdf documents are digestible by virtually anything these days.
Do they have a link to your online presence? I think you should get them to it before the interview if they haven't. They'll have far more time to consider your work (if they choose) and it shows you're switched on and 'social'. These things are important these days, especially in a creative role.
I've had people in firms I've worked at who've only lasted a day in their role (not my reports, FWIW)- it happens, people can 'fluke' or lie and trick the interviewer during an hour, but come up utter rubbish within 8 hours.
Good luck and I hope it goes well. Does anyone have job security these days?
Ahhh cheers guys both very valid points i dont know anyone with an I Pad but I could take my Macbook make a quick folder with some images and just do a slide show :) good idea and cheaper than rushing around trying to print images off etc etc
Im pretty sure I did send them a link to my flickr account when I first applied, they also know that I dont have any 'offical' photography qualification and that im self taught etc did tell them about my HND in Multimedia etc
When i initally applied and got told that the role was already taken I did ask if I would of gotten the job and tey said based on my Photography yes but they would need to see what my Customer service / sales / phone manner were like etc
Im fairly confident I can do it, its just seeing what its like down there etc etc and see what the pay is like and see if it feel right
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If you cannot get an ipad borrow a projector instead. Hook this up to your laptop and give them a proper presentation.
If their worth their salt they should have one themselves, many meeting rooms now have them as standard. ASK!
If they dont try your local library to borrow one.
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Not sure about the photography industry but suspect it's similar to the design industry interviews in some ways. I've interviewed for graphic design positions here and I wouldn't have any problems with an interviewee showing up with a CD, stick or laptop to show their skills or portfolio on. Within design it's nice to see a few items in the flesh to show you have the hands on skills but it's not essential and I'm sure that's the same for photography.
In most cases the portfolio is secondary, it's the whole feel of the person. I'd employ somebody with a weaker portfolio that will fit in from a personality POV knowing I can shape their skills down the line with time. Somebody who doesn't fit in is a none starter from the word go.
I'm a bit old school as my portfolio dates back from the late 80s'/early 90s. A couple of years ago I had an interview, first proper one for about 15 years, turned up with my big A2 Artcare portfolio and got questioned why I hadn't just bough it all on a memory stick. Turned out they were too corporate for me anyway and the individual who would be my manager who was in the interview I didn't like. They offered me the job but I turned them down on that basis. So remember it's as much as an interview for them as it is you. But then if you don't have a job in the first place.
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cheers for your input dude,
think im going to take my macbook with me and just do a slide show of my work
but as said its also a chance for me to see what thier business is like and what thye are like and just get a feel for what the place is like, see how things are done and well see what the money is like as well!
A smuch as i hate my job at the moment the money is good, but i struggle by on what i earn at the moment, obviosuly some lifestyle changes are needed anyway to help improve this
but if there is a pay cut etc that might be enough to put me off
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obviosuly some lifestyle changes are needed anyway to help improve this
Ya think? :grin:
Reduction in Burger King and JD might possibly improve your budgets?
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obviosuly some lifestyle changes are needed anyway to help improve this
Ya think? :grin:
Reduction in Burger King and JD might possibly improve your budgets?
Fast food in general and well when i go out i dont drink JD as its too bloody pricey but just the whole getting pissed thing waste too much money I think once a month will be more than enough ive said it tiem and time again need to cut it down
well if i can go 10 days before payday with out any money i know i can get buy without spending money its just when i have it i cant help myself :undecided:
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To be honest seeing several interviewers crowded round a Macbook doesn't inspire me with confidence. Get it printed/iPad/projector.
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To be honest seeing several interviewers crowded round a Macbook doesn't inspire me with confidence. Get it printed/iPad/projector.
getting it printed is going to be a mega rush job / projector imo is a bit ott and Ipad would be ideal but haven't got access to one so Macbook its going to be
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Clear your desktop too, or at least dump things in important sounding well organised files. Then if they catch a glimpse you look like a tidy worker
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Clear your desktop too, or at least dump things in important sounding well organised files. Then if they catch a glimpse you look like a tidy worker
hahah yeah im going to
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Clear your desktop too, or at least dump things in important sounding well organised files. Then if they catch a glimpse you look like a tidy worker
It's a mac, the desktop is for pretty pictures not loads of useless shortcuts.
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Nick
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Clear your desktop too, or at least dump things in important sounding well organised files. Then if they catch a glimpse you look like a tidy worker
It's a mac, the desktop is for pretty pictures not loads of useless shortcuts.
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Nick
+1 (apart from mounted images).
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That reminds me, it's time machine night!
Nick
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I'm running OEM on my MBP.
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Go on, boys, fullscreen it to see what it feels like......
Feel dirty now?
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I feel violated :grin:
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I've learnt to live without fullscreen, a small sacrifice to pay. :grin:
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Do you not hide your dock Shady? Mine only comes up when my pointer is down the bottom. That way I only have the top bar and that's teeny.
nick
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Do you not hide your dock Shady? Mine only comes up when my pointer is down the bottom. That way I only have the top bar and that's teeny.
nick
x2 I just need to clear my desk top, what i reallyl need to get is an external bloody hardrive so i can just dump all my contents onto that and clear the MAcbook, its got to the stage now where I really should upgrade the ram( talked to shady about this awhile ago) and any time i do work put it on the hardrive right away
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Do you not hide your dock Shady? Mine only comes up when my pointer is down the bottom. That way I only have the top bar and that's teeny.
nick
I don't like having the dock hidden, as I regularly switch between apps, and I find there is a slight delay (very small admittedly) when hovering the mouse down the bottom of the screen. I guess I should take advantage of the 4 finger app switcher using the trackpad. :rolleyes:
Do you not hide your dock Shady? Mine only comes up when my pointer is down the bottom. That way I only have the top bar and that's teeny.
nick
x2 I just need to clear my desk top, what i reallyl need to get is an external bloody hardrive so i can just dump all my contents onto that and clear the MAcbook, its got to the stage now where I really should upgrade the ram( talked to shady about this awhile ago) and any time i do work put it on the hardrive right away
How much RAM were you rocking again? 2GB wasn't it? I'd definitely get 4GB as soon as you can, check Crucial.com and see how much it will be for you MacBook (easy to use checker they have on the site). I'm contemplating upping mine to 8GB. :tongue:
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Christ you MBP boys lot are sad :huh:
How much RAM were you rocking again? 2GB wasn't it? I'd definitely get 4GB as soon as you can, check Crucial.com and see how much it will be for you MacBook (easy to use checker they have on the site). I'm contemplating upping mine to 8GB. :tongue:
With more and more 64Bit apps, 4GB Is pretty much the standard these days, SSD would give you a massive improvement esp given the archaic 5400 rmp drive that comes as standard :laugh:
Personally I run 12GB on the desktop and 4GB on the laptop
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Christ you MBP boys lot are sad :huh:
How much RAM were you rocking again? 2GB wasn't it? I'd definitely get 4GB as soon as you can, check Crucial.com and see how much it will be for you MacBook (easy to use checker they have on the site). I'm contemplating upping mine to 8GB. :tongue:
With more and more 64Bit apps, 4GB Is pretty much the standard these days, SSD would give you a massive improvement esp given the archaic 5400 rmp drive that comes as standard :laugh:
Personally I run 12GB on the desktop and 4GB on the laptop
Quiet you. :grin:
I've got one of the latest MacBook Pros, I understand SSD will make a massive improvement in terms of boot time, application opening times and opening files, however the price per GB is crazy, so I'm going to wait until they come down so I can get a decent size for not crazy money.
I do have a 7200rpm HDD which is noticeably faster than the 5400rpm drive, but SSD would be a much better choice.
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Christ you MBP boys lot are sad :huh:
How much RAM were you rocking again? 2GB wasn't it? I'd definitely get 4GB as soon as you can, check Crucial.com and see how much it will be for you MacBook (easy to use checker they have on the site). I'm contemplating upping mine to 8GB. :tongue:
With more and more 64Bit apps, 4GB Is pretty much the standard these days, SSD would give you a massive improvement esp given the archaic 5400 rmp drive that comes as standard :laugh:
Personally I run 12GB on the desktop and 4GB on the laptop
hahaha well mine is just a Macbook but I may consider a pro as its soo much bigger!!! wonder if they do a trade in / upgrade although mine has a few minor marks on the outside.
but yeah had that cruial thing have a look from when i spoke to you last about it Shady and yeah running 2GB need 4GB
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MY MBP is running 4GB.
Shady, use Spaces for different apps, makes switching between them soooo much easier.
Nick
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MY MBP is running 4GB.
Shady, use Spaces for different apps, makes switching between them soooo much easier.
Nick
I've never really utilised Spaces, again, something I should try.
Stink, if you got the 13" MacBook Pro from the new line up, they are twice as fast as last year's MacBook Pro 13" model. My 15" 2.0GHz i7 is faster than most of the current range of Mac Pros! :shocked: Even though the new i5's used in the 13" are dual-core, they are still extremely fast, but I would advise a 15" quad-core if you can afford it, and upgrade to a high-res screen as well. :afro:
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MY MBP is running 4GB.
Shady, use Spaces for different apps, makes switching between them soooo much easier.
Nick
I've never really utilised Spaces, again, something I should try.
Stink, if you got the 13" MacBook Pro from the new line up, they are twice as fast as last year's MacBook Pro 13" model. My 15" 2.0GHz i7 is faster than most of the current range of Mac Pros! :shocked: Even though the new i5's used in the 13" are dual-core, they are still extremely fast, but I would advise a 15" quad-core if you can afford it, and upgrade to a high-res screen as well. :afro:
Mine is just a 'Macbook' but if I wanted to upgrade would apple take my macbook as 'part exchange etc' I guess the only other thing is how i would go about transfering all the programs over etc
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MY MBP is running 4GB.
Shady, use Spaces for different apps, makes switching between them soooo much easier.
Nick
I've never really utilised Spaces, again, something I should try.
Stink, if you got the 13" MacBook Pro from the new line up, they are twice as fast as last year's MacBook Pro 13" model. My 15" 2.0GHz i7 is faster than most of the current range of Mac Pros! :shocked: Even though the new i5's used in the 13" are dual-core, they are still extremely fast, but I would advise a 15" quad-core if you can afford it, and upgrade to a high-res screen as well. :afro:
Mine is just a 'Macbook' but if I wanted to upgrade would apple take my macbook as 'part exchange etc' I guess the only other thing is how i would go about transfering all the programs over etc
No they won't but you could get good money for it on eBay.
As for you apps etc just get an external HD then back it up with timemachine. Turn on new machine, restore from timemachine. Job jobbed.
nick
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MY MBP is running 4GB.
Shady, use Spaces for different apps, makes switching between them soooo much easier.
Nick
I've never really utilised Spaces, again, something I should try.
Stink, if you got the 13" MacBook Pro from the new line up, they are twice as fast as last year's MacBook Pro 13" model. My 15" 2.0GHz i7 is faster than most of the current range of Mac Pros! :shocked: Even though the new i5's used in the 13" are dual-core, they are still extremely fast, but I would advise a 15" quad-core if you can afford it, and upgrade to a high-res screen as well. :afro:
Mine is just a 'Macbook' but if I wanted to upgrade would apple take my macbook as 'part exchange etc' I guess the only other thing is how i would go about transfering all the programs over etc
As Horney just said, eBay will see a good return on your MacBook, and just backup using Time Machine and on the new Mac you'd have the option to restore from Time Machine backup, that's what I did moving from my iMac to my MacBook Pro. :afro:
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ahhh good call as the timemachine just restores it to what it was like at the last save, so if you computer crashed and wiped everything it just restores it! good call!
good call on ebay, will hav eto check my spec and see what you guys think i could get for it and then can consider that in the future, cant afford to do anyhting right now and my mac is fine for what i need
would be more of a novelty :grin:
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ahhh good call as the timemachine just restores it to what it was like at the last save, so if you computer crashed and wiped everything it just restores it! good call!
good call on ebay, will hav eto check my spec and see what you guys think i could get for it and then can consider that in the future, cant afford to do anyhting right now and my mac is fine for what i need
would be more of a novelty :grin:
This is the thing, I wouldn't upgrade unless you needed to. I didn't want a desktop anymore so I sold the iMac for the MacBook Pro. If your machine works for what you do then I wouldn't worry too much about it. Upgrading the RAM would be worthwhile though, and even an SSD but they are expensive.
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If your machine works for what you do then I wouldn't worry too much about it.
+1
Regardless if you're running a mac a dell or a custom built desktop, each of our needs on here are different; even when it comes to a machine for photography the requirements can vary so much depending on what apps you're using.
The most important factor for working with images IMO is the screen.
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If your machine works for what you do then I wouldn't worry too much about it.
The most important factor for working with images IMO is the screen.
yeah thats why i bought the macbook in the first place, im just going to upgrade the ram and get the external hardrive :smiley:
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If your machine works for what you do then I wouldn't worry too much about it.
The most important factor for working with images IMO is the screen.
yeah thats why i bought the macbook in the first place, im just going to upgrade the ram and get the external hardrive :smiley:
Nail and head dude. I only bought my MBP this year because my old iBook was 7 years old and was really starting to struggle for my uses. My mate bought it and he's using it for Amiga emulation and a few othe rbits and he reckons he'll get another 5 years out of it!
I'm hoping my current MBP can manage 5 years before I need to replace it.
Nick
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If your machine works for what you do then I wouldn't worry too much about it.
The most important factor for working with images IMO is the screen.
yeah thats why i bought the macbook in the first place, im just going to upgrade the ram and get the external hardrive :smiley:
Nail and head dude. I only bought my MBP this year because my old iBook was 7 years old and was really starting to struggle for my uses. My mate bought it and he's using it for Amiga emulation and a few othe rbits and he reckons he'll get another 5 years out of it!
I'm hoping my current MBP can manage 5 years before I need to replace it.
Nick
If you consider how long your old one lasted and the spec if had, I'd imagine you'll find your new one last at least 5 years.
Personally I wish to keep mine for 4/5 years before selling on, which I feel is a sufficient time to keep it to then upgrade to keep up with the tech at the time.
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yeah wnat to keep mine for at least 4 yrs get good use out of it and im sure by that time, there will be even more fancy mac's around plus god knows what version of PS etc etc,
just need to speed mine up a bit but im sure once i dump all my stuff on the hardrive it will speed up any way before i even get the RAM upgraded
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I upgraded my RAM and my MacBook is about 4 years old and still runs like a dream.
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Right im off to my interview, lets see how this goes!
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Right im off to my interview, lets see how this goes!
Good luck Joe. :afro:
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Good luck fella.
Nick
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well . . .
was a nice studio but didnt get the job
mainly due to lack of experience with working with families, children, studio photography, make over photography :grin:
But was worth a punt, the photographer Neill Menneer liked a few of my shots, but when they were asking me questions etc about what ive done it quickly came apparent to both me and them that I wasn't right for the job
Nothing ventured nothing gained :smiley:
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Oh well, it's quite a different technique working with people that does only come with experience. My friend does family portraits and loads of fashion stuff, got no kids of his own but is awesome with children and people and that's what gets the right shot, making the subject feel comfortable. Think he would say his skills are 50% people person and 50% camera.
Keep trying
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Oh well, it's quite a different technique working with people that does only come with experience. My friend does family portraits and loads of fashion stuff, got no kids of his own but is awesome with children and people and that's what gets the right shot, making the subject feel comfortable. Think he would say his skills are 50% people person and 50% camera.
Keep trying
yeah thats what he was saying etc but hes being doing it 30yrs ive been doing it about 2 1/2 hahah :grin: