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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: chrismorby on 27 January 2011, 07:29
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so, simple really Ebc green stuff Vs Black diamond pads? need to renew my brakes and thought about a softer compound. also 280 or 288mm on a 96 8v golf?
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96 should be 288, EBC I think would be the better choice.
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check your calipers, 288 on the left, 280 on the right:
(http://vwtech.no-ip.info/images/golf/caliper280-288.jpg)
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I went for green stuff's, mainly on account of them being a low dust formula..well lets say a bit less dust anyway, moderate quality.. overall i'd probably go for them again.
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cheers guys, ill double check the calipers in a bit and the have a look on the tinter net for a pair
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Ferodo ds2500 are an excellent choice. I've heard lots of bad things about the greenstuff pads.
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Ferodo ds2500 are an excellent choice. I've heard lots of bad things about the greenstuff pads.
I've heard a lot of good things though. Hmmm....
I was looking at what I'd need for my brakes the other day, and as I have braided hoses, drilled/vented discs, and some pic chunky red calipers, I don't know what the hell I'm doing. :grin:
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96 should be 288, EBC I think would be the better choice.
My last 96 8v had 280mm discs but yeah i know some have the larger ones fitted. I guess it comes down to when the car was registered really.
The Green Stuff pads seemed to fine on my mk2 16v...
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where do you reckon is the best place to pick them up from really, need them in a hurry lol ? silly question i know but i cant stand using venom any more (as usefull as a cock flavoured lolli pop)
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EBC themselves lol?
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I rate greenstuff very low! They are really bad cold. They are however good when warm, but when they get hot they are sh!t!
My abs packed up and I had grooved disc's with greenstuff up front and standard on the rear. and when I braked semi hard cold the rears locked up. and you have to brake hard when cold because the car won't stop if you don't lol I won't be buying them again.
If you drive hard and brake alto don't get them I heard redstuff work when hot. Greenstuff are just to stop your wheels getting dirty.
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I rate greenstuff very low! They are really bad cold. They are however good when warm, but when they get hot they are sh!t!
My abs packed up and I had grooved disc's with greenstuff up front and standard on the rear. and when I braked semi hard cold the rears locked up. and you have to brake hard when cold because the car won't stop if you don't lol I won't be buying them again.
If you drive hard and brake alto don't get them I heard redstuff work when hot. Greenstuff are just to stop your wheels getting dirty.
I didn't notice any difference with the Greenstuff pads at all. Yes they dont release as much brake dust so that I rate highly.
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I rate greenstuff very low! They are really bad cold. They are however good when warm, but when they get hot they are sh!t!
My abs packed up and I had grooved disc's with greenstuff up front and standard on the rear. and when I braked semi hard cold the rears locked up. and you have to brake hard when cold because the car won't stop if you don't lol I won't be buying them again.
If you drive hard and brake alto don't get them I heard redstuff work when hot. Greenstuff are just to stop your wheels getting dirty.
I didn't notice any difference with the Greenstuff pads at all. Yes they dont release as much brake dust so that I rate highly.
I clean my car regularly so brake dust isn't a problem. That was my opinion on them you don't have to take it.
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I rate greenstuff very low! They are really bad cold. They are however good when warm, but when they get hot they are sh!t!
My abs packed up and I had grooved disc's with greenstuff up front and standard on the rear. and when I braked semi hard cold the rears locked up. and you have to brake hard when cold because the car won't stop if you don't lol I won't be buying them again.
If you drive hard and brake alto don't get them I heard redstuff work when hot. Greenstuff are just to stop your wheels getting dirty.
I didn't notice any difference with the Greenstuff pads at all. Yes they dont release as much brake dust so that I rate highly.
I clean my car regularly so brake dust isn't a problem. That was my opinion on them you don't have to take it.
I agree with your opinion :huh: Or was that to the OP?
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I rate greenstuff very low! They are really bad cold. They are however good when warm, but when they get hot they are sh!t!
My abs packed up and I had grooved disc's with greenstuff up front and standard on the rear. and when I braked semi hard cold the rears locked up. and you have to brake hard when cold because the car won't stop if you don't lol I won't be buying them again.
If you drive hard and brake alto don't get them I heard redstuff work when hot. Greenstuff are just to stop your wheels getting dirty.
I didn't notice any difference with the Greenstuff pads at all. Yes they dont release as much brake dust so that I rate highly.
I clean my car regularly so brake dust isn't a problem. That was my opinion on them you don't have to take it.
I agree with your opinion :huh: Or was that to the OP?
OP lol you already have them.
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I rate greenstuff very low! They are really bad cold. They are however good when warm, but when they get hot they are sh!t!
My abs packed up and I had grooved disc's with greenstuff up front and standard on the rear. and when I braked semi hard cold the rears locked up. and you have to brake hard when cold because the car won't stop if you don't lol I won't be buying them again.
If you drive hard and brake alto don't get them I heard redstuff work when hot. Greenstuff are just to stop your wheels getting dirty.
I didn't notice any difference with the Greenstuff pads at all. Yes they dont release as much brake dust so that I rate highly.
I clean my car regularly so brake dust isn't a problem. That was my opinion on them you don't have to take it.
I agree with your opinion :huh: Or was that to the OP?
OP lol you already have them.
Okay :grin:
They are no better at breaking than standard pads for twice as much in my opinion. Redstuff is the one to go for, but be warned don't keep em cold.
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Ferodo ds2500 are an excellent choice. I've heard lots of bad things about the greenstuff pads.
I was thinking Ferodo's pads with VW disks, Good choice?
any idea how much id be looking at paying?? (i havent done any research yet :embarassed:)
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Ferodo pads are expensive last time I looked, I think about £80 for a front set.
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They are no better at breaking than standard pads for twice as much in my opinion. Redstuff is the one to go for, but be warned don't keep em cold.
Redstuff?
The worst pads I've ever tried...I took them out as they were dismal...utterly dismal cold, warm or hot.
BD Predator weren't much better.
I did lots of road and track miles on Greenstuffs with no issues.
But, as has been said...Ferodo DS2500s are in a different league.
Or Mintex M1144/M1155s.
I also have some Mintex Racing F4R Tarmac Rally pads...the pukka competition stuff. If they get wet it takes you a week to clay-bar the crud off the side of the car...and they squeal like a pig..
But you cannot stop facter unless you hit a wall.
Utterly insane.
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How much do the Mintex M1144 pads sell for roughly?
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How much do the Mintex M1144 pads sell for roughly?
Upto £100 if you're looking at the 288mm ones but they are good quality.
Wouldn't touch ebc brake pads ever again, green are crap and red are just as bad.
Never had a real problem with the standard pads and discs unless you go out on the track or really give the car lots of stick round the country lanes.
Paul
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So these are bloody cheap then?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280617514953&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
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So these are bloody cheap then?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280617514953&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
Blimey, if that is genuine then I'll be buying a set straight away!
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I can't work out if these will fit my 97 16v though?
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I can't work out if these will fit my 97 16v though?
Me neither.
However I just sent him a question asking if my 1997 16v calipers will be compatible :smiley: Will let you know :smiley:
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I can't get on the link. What are they and how much?
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Mintex M1144 front pads for £40 posted :shocked:
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Mintex M1144 front pads for £40 posted :shocked:
Minted good I take it? Lol!
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So these are bloody cheap then?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280617514953&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
Blimey, if that is genuine then I'll be buying a set straight away!
Looks like they are 288mm spec, going by engine and years
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Minted :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
XTRA ICE :laugh:
Yes Mintex sell for about £100 for the 288mm pads as Paul stated further up the page :smiley:
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So these are bloody cheap then?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280617514953&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
Blimey, if that is genuine then I'll be buying a set straight away!
Looks like they are 288mm spec, going by engine and years
That's what I thought, it says they are for Lucas calipers....Can't remember which ones the lucas were, 280 or 288?
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they're listed to fit golf G60, so they're 280s. also from the pic you can see they're for 280, but not a good idea to trust the piccy alone. as long as the fitting list is correct though, then they're for pre-96 280mm setup :)
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This is the reply I got from them.
Hi, yes it's a set of four to do both sides. These will fit your vehicle, although yours may have warning wires fitted which may need either looping or splitting as these are not listed as coming with them (many fast road pads don't use the wires). Hope that helps. Cheers
Will let you guys know how they fit the 288 calipers :smiley:
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ah right ok, fingers crossed then.
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Ferodo pads are expensive last time I looked, I think about £80 for a front set.
best get saving then :shocked:
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Ferodo pads are expensive last time I looked, I think about £80 for a front set.
best get saving then :shocked:
Dude, the ebay link posted one page back. The mintex M1144 are equal to the Ferodo DS2500 and for some reason they're up for £40 posted!
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Those pads listed will definitely not fit the 288mm brake set up.
The 288mm brake calipers are ATE.
The code for the mintex 288mm pads is MDB1741 followed by the pad compound code.
If the fitment chart also includes Mk11's they not be the 288mm ones.
Paul
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Yeah that's also confusing me but for some reason it lists the late 16v mk3's - Odd :huh:
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Yeah that's also confusing me but for some reason it lists the late 16v mk3's - Odd :huh:
Yeah :undecided:
Well I've just sent the seller another email.
I've just had confirmed that these pads that you said will fit my 1997 16v 288mm brakes, in fact won't fit. The part number for the mintex pads for the 288mm brakes is in fact MDB1741 followed by the pad compound code, and the 288mm calipers are ATE not Lucas.
Also, I was told that the listing includes Mk2 brakes, which none have 288mm (G60 has the largest, 280mm).
Could I please have a full refund if that information is in fact trust, otherwise I have no use for these pads.
Let's see what he replies with :undecided:
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These are the right ones for the 288mm brake set up
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230293001874&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230293001874&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)
He will sell them for £40 plus postage if you make an offer.
Not listed for the Golf but they are the right ones.
Paul
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These are the right ones for the 288mm brake set up
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230293001874&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230293001874&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)
He will sell them for £40 plus postage if you make an offer.
Not listed for the Golf but they are the right ones.
Paul
Nice one Paul! The seller replied saying he was sorry if information was misleading and that if I had the wrong pads I could send them back for a full refund. He would check on Monday to see if he has some MDB1741 to swap them for.
If he doesn't, I'll get a refund and buy them off the guy you suggested :smiley:
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Yeah that's also confusing me but for some reason it lists the late 16v mk3's - Odd :huh:
Yeah :undecided:
Well I've just sent the seller another email.
I've just had confirmed that these pads that you said will fit my 1997 16v 288mm brakes, in fact won't fit. The part number for the mintex pads for the 288mm brakes is in fact MDB1741 followed by the pad compound code, and the 288mm calipers are ATE not Lucas.
Also, I was told that the listing includes Mk2 brakes, which none have 288mm (G60 has the largest, 280mm).
Could I please have a full refund if that information is in fact trust, otherwise I have no use for these pads.
Let's see what he replies with :undecided:
Ive just received a message from the seller and insists that they will fit out valvers.
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Yeah that's also confusing me but for some reason it lists the late 16v mk3's - Odd :huh:
Yeah :undecided:
Well I've just sent the seller another email.
I've just had confirmed that these pads that you said will fit my 1997 16v 288mm brakes, in fact won't fit. The part number for the mintex pads for the 288mm brakes is in fact MDB1741 followed by the pad compound code, and the 288mm calipers are ATE not Lucas.
Also, I was told that the listing includes Mk2 brakes, which none have 288mm (G60 has the largest, 280mm).
Could I please have a full refund if that information is in fact trust, otherwise I have no use for these pads.
Let's see what he replies with :undecided:
Ive just received a message from the seller and insists that they will fit out valvers.
:undecided: :undecided: :undecided:
Odd :undecided:
Nevertheless, I made an offer to the bloke selling the Sharan ones from Paul's link and hopefully he'll accept it (tried to be cheeky, £38 rather than £40 as Paul said :tongue:).
And I have asked the seller of the other pads to please give me a full refund so it saves up both postage and time. He said Monday morning first thing he will refund :smiley:
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Greeenstuff All they way :)
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Dont mean to hijack this thread, but how much more would drilled/vented discs kill the pads by compared to standard?
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I heard grooved discs grate the pads, not sure about drilled.
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Ive just received a message from the seller and insists that they will fit out valvers.
well he is wrong then, simple. no way a pad can fit both a G60 and a late MK3 GTI/16v, because the calipers are totally different. can see from the pic they are early type as well
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The seller of the correct pads from the link Paul posted has accepted my £38 offer :smiley:
Need to clean up and paint the new calipers, get some new discs and get it all together :smiley:
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So the Mintex M1144 ones will fit an early ('94) 16v? Will be needing some new pads soon and stumbled over this thread ...
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Ferodo ds2500 are an excellent choice. I've heard lots of bad things about the greenstuff pads.
got Ferodo pads on mine too and mintex discs - fantastic combo
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So the Mintex M1144 ones will fit an early ('94) 16v? Will be needing some new pads soon and stumbled over this thread ...
All 16v were 288mm I think :undecided: So no.
I need to buy some decent discs, however I've run out of money with car insurance and the brake pads now, so may have to wait a while longer for that.
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no mk3 8v,16v and vr6 pre-95/6 have the same 280mm setup, then post-95/6 they all changed to the 288.
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Can someone tell me what these are? Got them with the pads that have just arrived :cool:
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/IMG_20110203_131015.jpg)
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anti-squeal pads.
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I see.
Do they go between the pad and the calipers?
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I see.
Do they go between the pad and the calipers?
Yes as not much good between the disc and pad :laugh: :laugh:
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I see.
Do they go between the pad and the calipers?
Yes as not much good between the disc and pad :laugh: :laugh:
Oi wayne! :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Sorry :rolleyes:
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I see.
Do they go between the pad and the calipers?
Yes as not much good between the disc and pad :laugh: :laugh:
Oi wayne! :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Left yourself open for the one Khare :grin:
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I reckon you should make some well pimpy sleeping masks with them instead. :rolleyes:
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I see.
Do they go between the pad and the calipers?
Yes as not much good between the disc and pad :laugh: :laugh:
Oi wayne! :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Left yourself open for the one Khare :grin:
:embarassed: :embarassed: :embarassed:
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I see.
Do they go between the pad and the calipers?
Yes as not much good between the disc and pad :laugh: :laugh:
Epic reply! :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
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Yeah it was pretty epic :laugh:
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Some are good, some are just bollocks and flap about, rust away and seize.