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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: Ess_Three on 11 June 2010, 17:32

Title: Dynaudio - on or off?
Post by: Ess_Three on 11 June 2010, 17:32
Anyone know how you can confirm the Dynaudio amps are on and working -I presume the Dynaudio system uses remote amps, like the old Bose system did?

RNS510 starts up, displays Dynaudio splash screen...and sounds fine.
But doesn't go as loud as I'd have expected for all the extra 'grunt'
I can regularly run with the volume up 80% (with the sunroof open) and I'm not sure the Dynaudio amps are actually doing the work.

If the car has Dynaudio from the factory, would you get any sound at all if the Dynaudio amps weren't turned on correctly in the coding?

Could the coding be wrong?

Or does the volume level sound about right?
Title: Re: Dynaudio - on or off?
Post by: am1w on 11 June 2010, 18:18
Interesting.
Looking at the cost of the total Dynaudio system (amps and speakers not the RCD upgrade), it does not seem very high to me. Maybe most of the money has gone on the loudspeakers with just a booster amp to improve on the standard unit's headroom.
I maybe talking rubbish.

PS: The standard amps produce 4x20 Watts RMS (total 80 Watts RMS). A 3dB increase in dB SPL would require 4x40 watts. A 9dB increase which is equivalent subjectively to nearly twice the loudness would require 4x160 Watts RMS (total 640 Watts RMS).

Are the Dynaudio amps this powerful?

I was under the impression (and I might be totally wrong) that their power was much lower and so the increase in overall dB SPL compared to the standard set-up will not be so obvious.
Title: Re: Dynaudio - on or off?
Post by: AlanH on 11 June 2010, 18:38
Dynaudio amp sits under the passenger seat. Have you gone into the menu and played with the EQ settings - that might help.
Title: Re: Dynaudio - on or off?
Post by: ajmoir36 on 11 June 2010, 22:40
Dynaudio is 4x75w (300RMS)
Title: Re: Dynaudio - on or off?
Post by: am1w on 11 June 2010, 23:36
Dynaudio is 4x75w (300RMS)

If this is the case, then the increase in dB SPL with the Dynaudio amplifier will be approx 5 dB. Hence it will go only slightly louder. :smiley:

Note: 2 x power = 3 dB increase, therefore an increase from 20 watts to 80 watts will be 6 dB increase in dB SPL. The decibel is a logarithmic scale.

Title: Re: Dynaudio - on or off?
Post by: ajmoir36 on 12 June 2010, 09:19
Anyone know how you can confirm the Dynaudio amps are on and working -I presume the Dynaudio system uses remote amps, like the old Bose system did?

RNS510 starts up, displays Dynaudio splash screen...and sounds fine.
But doesn't go as loud as I'd have expected for all the extra 'grunt'
I can regularly run with the volume up 80% (with the sunroof open) and I'm not sure the Dynaudio amps are actually doing the work.

If the car has Dynaudio from the factory, would you get any sound at all if the Dynaudio amps weren't turned on correctly in the coding?

Could the coding be wrong?

Or does the volume level sound about right?

I have to admit I thought the same the other day with the windows down.  Sometimes it really impresses then other days its just average.
Title: Re: Dynaudio - on or off?
Post by: Snoopy on 12 June 2010, 16:14
http://www.dynaudio.com/eng/auto/golf.php
Title: Re: Dynaudio - on or off?
Post by: AndyC on 13 June 2010, 22:17
I've never been able to turn mine up over 20 as it's too loud ( that's 2/3rds ). I'd certainly check the "loudness" setting ( settings, media then there's a low, medium and high option. ) mine is set at medium but occasionally defaults to low, even though the screen says medium...

thanks for the info there mate
Title: Re: Dynaudio - on or off?
Post by: daviescotland on 14 June 2010, 11:05
More than happy with the sound produced from my Dynaudio. Although it does obviously depend on the quality of the audio source. Not had any serious distortion yet, even at max volume and a resonably poor source.
Title: Re: Dynaudio - on or off?
Post by: simonpolly on 15 June 2010, 15:32
I've never been able to turn mine up over 20 as it's too loud ( that's 2/3rds ). I'd certainly check the "loudness" setting ( settings, media then there's a low, medium and high option. ) mine is set at medium but occasionally defaults to low, even though the screen says medium...

Where ?,mine does not do this and there is no mention of this in the manual :undecided:,is that for a aux input only ?
Title: Re: Dynaudio - on or off?
Post by: simonpolly on 21 June 2010, 19:20
If you want to try the dynaudio out give it some of this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWjrMTWXH28  :grin:
Title: Re: Dynaudio - on or off?
Post by: daviescotland on 21 June 2010, 22:56
If you want to try the dynaudio out give it some of this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWjrMTWXH28  :grin:

Agreed  :smiley:
Title: Re: Dynaudio - on or off?
Post by: RickS on 22 June 2010, 10:07
Mine is as below. Setup then media brings the below screen up:

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y147/damianmonk/204e3023.jpg)


As it says, isn't that just for the AUX input? [Jack plug in front of centre armrest] Don't think that will affect input volume from other sources.

The volume you will get for any given setting on the RCD unit depends upon the input level from the source, I can get much more volume from my SD card as the music is recorded at a higher level. My iPod has a low input level so it's not as loud as other sources at the same volume setting; but still easily adequate unless you want to damage your hearing. [I think turning up the volume on the iPod itself would increase the level for any given setting on the RCD]
Title: Re: Dynaudio - on or off?
Post by: simonpolly on 22 June 2010, 14:34
Mine is as below. Setup then media brings the below screen up:

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y147/damianmonk/204e3023.jpg)


As it says, isn't that just for the AUX input? [Jack plug in front of centre armrest] Don't think that will affect input volume from other sources.

The volume you will get for any given setting on the RCD unit depends upon the input level from the source, I can get much more volume from my SD card as the music is recorded at a higher level. My iPod has a low input level so it's not as loud as other sources at the same volume setting; but still easily adequate unless you want to damage your hearing. [I think turning up the volume on the iPod itself would increase the level for any given setting on the RCD]

On mine it does not give you the option of low, medium or high,just three different voltage settings :undecided: don`t know why its different ?
Title: Re: Dynaudio - on or off?
Post by: Snoopy on 22 June 2010, 18:19
If you want to try the dynaudio out give it some of this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWjrMTWXH28  :grin:
Or some properly recorded music with dynamics & imaging, recorded to CD to a high standard by one or two of the real properly recording companys out there.  :tongue:
Title: Re: Dynaudio - on or off?
Post by: simonpolly on 23 June 2010, 17:11
If you want to try the dynaudio out give it some of this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWjrMTWXH28  :grin:
Or some properly recorded music with dynamics & imaging, recorded to CD to a high standard by one or two of the real properly recording companys out there.  :tongue:
Ok Grandad each to their own :wink: :grin:
Title: Re: Dynaudio - on or off?
Post by: Snoopy on 24 June 2010, 19:20
Not old just know how to test setups, and speakers properly and know how badly most modern music is recordered. I use to work in test for a highend home audio company
Title: Re: Dynaudio - on or off?
Post by: Ess_Three on 24 June 2010, 20:17
Not old just know how to test setups, and speakers properly and know how badly most modern music is recordered. I use to work in test for a highend home audio company

Recorded badly, ripped to MP3 on a low bitrate making a poor source even poorer...then played loud in a car with it's poor acoustics, medeorce amplification and poorly damped speaker enclosures.

I went through the whole ICE phase many years ago and gave up after it's obvious you'll never get a car to sound as good as a decent home hi-fi.
If it plays loud enough to drown out the road noise...it'll do.
After that, I'll save proper listening for home.

Hell, I can't bear to listen to low bitrate MP3s on my home hi-fi as it sounds tragic.
Title: Re: Dynaudio - on or off?
Post by: am1w on 24 June 2010, 21:54
Not old just know how to test setups, and speakers properly and know how badly most modern music is recordered. I use to work in test for a highend home audio company
Recorded badly, ripped to MP3 on a low bitrate making a poor source even poorer...then played loud in a car with it's poor acoustics, medeorce amplification and poorly damped speaker enclosures.
I went through the whole ICE phase many years ago and gave up after it's obvious you'll never get a car to sound as good as a decent home hi-fi.
If it plays loud enough to drown out the road noise...it'll do.
After that, I'll save proper listening for home.
Hell, I can't bear to listen to low bitrate MP3s on my home hi-fi as it sounds tragic.

Absolutely 100% :smiley:
Title: Re: Dynaudio - on or off?
Post by: wilobach on 30 June 2010, 17:58
just to ad on th dynaudio amp its stamped on the inner side of my amp blaupunkt so it must use there parts in the kit