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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: jimmyhodge on 17 May 2010, 21:56

Title: Weber carb help!!!!!!!!! Close to tears kinda stuff...
Post by: jimmyhodge on 17 May 2010, 21:56
Right I'll get straight to the point, I've been tinkering with my 1.3 mk2 Golf just making her run as sweet as a dream. Had some issues with carburation put it down to just needing a drive well it gradually got worse and I've now decided to clean the carb.

One thing led to another and I ended up with a Twin Choke Webber carb that was supposedly off a 1.3 golf originally so I presumed it would bolt straight on. How wrong I was... I haven't paid my mate for the carb yet as I want to hear her running on the carb 1st before paying ££ for it.

The problem I found upon removing the carb was the inlet is completely different,not even similar kinda thing. I was wondering if anyone has come across this before or knows about a different manifold available on the market that allows you to fit a Twin choke to the 1.3 golf.

Any help would be much appreciated as no-one I speak to seems to know anything about running a twin choke on these cars which has come as a bit of a surprise to me as I'm pretty sure they have ran them on these cars before and the guy I got it of said he runs one on his Rocco...

I'd love to go around and gut his car but before I get to this stage I was hoping someone on here would pipe up and show me the light at the end of the tunnel or who has fitted a Twin Choke before. :cry:

If it helps its a 32/34 Twin choke dmtl

Cheers
Title: Re: Weber carb help!!!!!!!!! Close to tears kinda stuff...
Post by: Alec on 17 May 2010, 22:18
Not sure if inlet manifolds are different or if you use some kinda adaptor, does this carb look like yours? Also the bits that come with it

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-GOLF-MK2-1-3-WEBER-CARB-/220576408561#ht_500wt_1182
Title: Re: Weber carb help!!!!!!!!! Close to tears kinda stuff...
Post by: Diamond Hell on 17 May 2010, 22:49
Errr, you have a carb for a 1.6 or a 1.8 engine which is a totally different engine to the 1.3.
Title: Re: Weber carb help!!!!!!!!! Close to tears kinda stuff...
Post by: jimmyhodge on 17 May 2010, 22:58
So the guy who supposedly removed it off a 1.3 Golf is having my mate on?


The picture of the carb I have is very similer but the code is actually different...
Title: Re: Weber carb help!!!!!!!!! Close to tears kinda stuff...
Post by: Wayne on 17 May 2010, 23:25
As DH said 32/34 is 1.6 and 1.8
Title: Re: Weber carb help!!!!!!!!! Close to tears kinda stuff...
Post by: danny_p on 18 May 2010, 01:10
there is an adaptor that has to do between the base of the carb and manifold to make it work.

there is a 32/34 for the 1300 dut it's not normaly a dmtl but a dmtr.   they are almost identical well look identical
Title: Re: Weber carb help!!!!!!!!! Close to tears kinda stuff...
Post by: jimmyhodge on 18 May 2010, 11:00
See mines defintly a 32/34 DMTL

What i'm trying to conclude is wether this carb would do the job or not... Wether a manifold is available on the market or not for my 1.3 Golf.

You help is much aprietiated :grin:
Title: Re: Weber carb help!!!!!!!!! Close to tears kinda stuff...
Post by: Wayne on 18 May 2010, 11:45
See mines defintly a 32/34 DMTL

What i'm trying to conclude is wether this carb would do the job or not... Wether a manifold is available on the market or not for my 1.3 Golf.

You help is much aprietiated :grin:

You should be able to use the standard manifold.
Title: Re: Weber carb help!!!!!!!!! Close to tears kinda stuff...
Post by: jimmyhodge on 18 May 2010, 12:24
The carb manifold does not match the car manifold. I could happily make a manifold outa alloy but wouldn't want to waste my time doing this only to find out it won't work...

Has anyone ever fitted a twin choke weber to a 1.3 golf?  :cool:

Wayne are you suggesting retain the original manifold and make an adapter to replace the rubber one to match my Weber carb?



Title: Re: Weber carb help!!!!!!!!! Close to tears kinda stuff...
Post by: Wayne on 18 May 2010, 13:34
The carb manifold does not match the car manifold. I could happily make a manifold outa alloy but wouldn't want to waste my time doing this only to find out it won't work...

Has anyone ever fitted a twin choke weber to a 1.3 golf?  :cool:

Wayne are you suggesting retain the original manifold and make an adapter to replace the rubber one to match my Weber carb?


Sort of yes but needs to be rubber.
Title: Re: Weber carb help!!!!!!!!! Close to tears kinda stuff...
Post by: jimmyhodge on 18 May 2010, 13:54
What reason would it have to be alloy? Sorry to sound clever,i've just made many a manifolds outa alloy before in cnc machines and with gaskets work very well...

Will it not work on a Golf?  :sad:
Title: Re: Weber carb help!!!!!!!!! Close to tears kinda stuff...
Post by: Wayne on 18 May 2010, 16:26
Nope the carb mount needs to be rubber.
Title: Re: Weber carb help!!!!!!!!! Close to tears kinda stuff...
Post by: tobz. on 18 May 2010, 16:44
Yes I fitted a weber to my 1.3 mk2, however as mentioned above it was a 32dmtr.
The golf I was fitting it on was an early A plate and the manifold was a different pattern to the carb so I had to buy the relevant adaptor direct from webcon.co.uk

So in answer to your question there are two patterns of manifold on a 1.3 golf, I believe it changed in 1985

If you have a dmtl carb though it's wrong and you're wasting your time.
Title: Re: Weber carb help!!!!!!!!! Close to tears kinda stuff...
Post by: jimmyhodge on 18 May 2010, 17:42
Right the latest on this Carb mystery. The carb defintly came off a 1.3 mk2 Golf. It is defintly a Dmtl 32/34 type Twin choke weber. Spoke to the owner the carb came off today. He assures me that his car is a 1.3 Mk2 Golf.
After some haggling i've managed to convince him to sell me his manifold for the Golf so should mean the carb will bolt straight on  :smiley: Happy days.

Just need to find a desent air filter to mount on ther enow and to find out if all this talk of these carbs not working on a 1.3 mk2 Golf can be answered  :cool:

I'll let you guys know either way,

Thanks again for your help,really was aprietiated.

Also whats the reason for the manifold having to be rubber?
 :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: Weber carb help!!!!!!!!! Close to tears kinda stuff...
Post by: Wayne on 18 May 2010, 21:34
Right the latest on this Carb mystery. The carb defintly came off a 1.3 mk2 Golf. It is defintly a Dmtl 32/34 type Twin choke weber. Spoke to the owner the carb came off today. He assures me that his car is a 1.3 Mk2 Golf.
After some haggling i've managed to convince him to sell me his manifold for the Golf so should mean the carb will bolt straight on  :smiley: Happy days.

Just need to find a desent air filter to mount on ther enow and to find out if all this talk of these carbs not working on a 1.3 mk2 Golf can be answered  :cool:

I'll let you guys know either way,

Thanks again for your help,really was aprietiated.

Also whats the reason for the manifold having to be rubber?
 :lipsrsealed:


Not the manifold but the mount that bolts to the manifold, it needs to be rubber for various reasons.
Title: Re: Weber carb help!!!!!!!!! Close to tears kinda stuff...
Post by: jimmyhodge on 19 May 2010, 09:02
Fair enough  :smiley:

Thanks for your help guys :cool:
Title: Re: Weber carb help!!!!!!!!! Close to tears kinda stuff...
Post by: jimmyhodge on 19 May 2010, 13:50
Right Fitted the MK2 Golf with the Twin Choke Weber carb. Plumbed everything in.  Got talking to a few frineds and they all recon I will have to up-rate the manual cam driven fuel pump for something high pressure or the carb will be starved... Does anyone agree or do you recon the cam Driven fuel pump will not be up to it.

cheers
Title: Re: Weber carb help!!!!!!!!! Close to tears kinda stuff...
Post by: jamrock on 19 May 2010, 14:22
i am currently running a webber on my 1.3

i fitted this with no problems, it bolted straight down onto the existing manifold. my mk2 is a 1990 H reg.

i have not uprated the fuel pump and it works fine. the only slight problem i have is that if it is not used for say two days it runs very strange, as if it is struggling for some reason :huh:

this could just be a problem with my set up of the carb. you will notice the difference straight away. the sound alone is worth it, even if it is only a 1.3

i am also running a K&N bolt on air filter.

i will try and up load some pics tonight.
Title: Re: Weber carb help!!!!!!!!! Close to tears kinda stuff...
Post by: jimmyhodge on 19 May 2010, 14:41
Swaaaeeeet would be much aprietiated to see pics  :smiley:

I've got a dmtl 32/34 type twin choke that everyone said would not work... so i'm waiting to be proved wrong...  :grin:

Yours bolted straight on? Was this with a kit that came with the carb outa interest.

Where'd you get the k&n i'm still trying to track one down
Title: Re: Weber carb help!!!!!!!!! Close to tears kinda stuff...
Post by: jamrock on 19 May 2010, 17:52
got the K&N from demon tweeks.

when i brought the carb it arrived with the ID plate broken, so im not sure what model number it is.
Title: Re: Weber carb help!!!!!!!!! Close to tears kinda stuff...
Post by: jimmyhodge on 20 May 2010, 08:49
Trick! Atleast I know where to get an air filter now  :smiley: Thats the only thing that is needed for the carb.
Should be inprinted on the lower side of the bowl on the carb along one of the edges.  :cool:
Title: Re: Weber carb help!!!!!!!!! Close to tears kinda stuff...
Post by: shaolindan on 22 May 2010, 09:35

i fitted this with no problems, it bolted straight down onto the existing manifold. my mk2 is a 1990 H reg.


H is '91 ?
Title: Re: Weber carb help!!!!!!!!! Close to tears kinda stuff...
Post by: Mew on 23 May 2010, 12:30

H is '91 ?

and 90
Title: Re: Weber carb help!!!!!!!!! Close to tears kinda stuff...
Post by: jamrock on 23 May 2010, 15:54
(http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss173/jameock/IMGP0119.jpg)

(http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss173/jameock/IMGP0118.jpg)

not sure if its that helpfull but this is my weber in my 1.3

 :smiley:
Title: Re: Weber carb help!!!!!!!!! Close to tears kinda stuff...
Post by: mwep201081 on 23 May 2010, 17:38
I've seen these filters before but was always put off.

What do you use for the breather hose when you use these filters?

And how do you prevent carb icing in the winter?