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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: squirrelGTi on 18 January 2010, 09:02
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Well, been to visit my dealer and have finally decided on the spec. It's going to be a GTi with a few added extras. Was debating the GTD.
Anyway, have been dealing with this chap from November and at that point estimated delivery time was about 4 months. At the weekend, the delivery wouldn't be until Aug! He said the GTi wouldn't be processed until April, so expected delivery date would be Aug!! He said it was due to the restricted right hand drive GTI's/GTD's in production, because of the lack of profit in the UK. (weak pound)
So i guess it really doesn't matter if i order now or in April. It'll still get processed at that time.
Should i wait and sit on my money and make VW sweat a bit, maybe encouraging them to either ramp production up (people not ordering due to poor delivery times) or reduce the price?
Wait for one to turn up at a dealership, either 2nd hand or one that a customer cancelled. Dealer told me that if i was to cancel my order due to delays, they would still process the order and sell in house.
Or should i just get my deposit down and get in line like all the other frustrated people here?
Obviously VW wont change their ways on just myself not putting my order in, but it would appear that there's a lot of people cancelling and going to different manufactures....... and that's just on this forum!
Cheers guys and good luck to all that are sticking out the wait!
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or go buy an audi :grin:
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Brand new Audi S3 in 6 weeks :lipsrsealed:
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And good discount of 8% and in some cases 10%! :laugh:
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Brand new Audi S3 in 6 weeks :lipsrsealed:
What he said :lipsrsealed: :lipsrsealed:
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And good discount of 8% and in some cases 10%! :laugh:
Lol
If you seriously think the same company that puts RHD GTI on hold due to lack of profit is going to offer brand new S3 in UK at a reasonable price AND offer 8-10% discount you must be dreaming...
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It's got nothing to do with a fat cat sitting behind a desk in head office. It does however have everyhting to do with Audi dealers competing against a newly released model in direct competition with them. They know the public are like magpies and will be attracted to the new model.
Dealers compete against each other regardless of the marque they work for.
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Lol
If you seriously think the same company that puts RHD GTI on hold due to lack of profit is going to offer S3 in UK at a reasonable price AND offer 8-10% discount you must be dreaming...
I got offered 9% discount the other day without even trying. They were trying to GIVE them away because theres a new model soon!
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yeah forthcoming new model and a runway full of old ones to get rid of.
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Lol
If you seriously think the same company that puts RHD GTI on hold due to lack of profit is going to offer S3 in UK at a reasonable price AND offer 8-10% discount you must be dreaming...
I got offered 9% discount the other day without even trying. They were trying to GIVE them away because theres a new model soon!
Precisely! You'll get nice discount on outgoing model but not on a new one I was referring to.
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And good discount of 8% and in some cases 10%! :laugh:
Lol
If you seriously think the same company that puts RHD GTI on hold due to lack of profit is going to offer S3 in UK at a reasonable price AND offer 8-10% discount you must be dreaming...
I know someone who has received 8% on his S3 ordered 3 weeks ago. That's another topic :smiley:
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Lol
If you seriously think the same company that puts RHD GTI on hold due to lack of profit is going to offer S3 in UK at a reasonable price AND offer 8-10% discount you must be dreaming...
I got offered 9% discount the other day without even trying. They were trying to GIVE them away because theres a new model soon!
Yep, my neighbour turned up on Saturday in a new S3 Sportback which he got 10% off. In November I was offered an S4 with 8% off plus the scrappage discount.
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Precisely! You'll get nice discount on outgoing model but not on a new one I was referring to.
You do realise the NEW S3 wont be out for quite some time.
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And good discount of 8% and in some cases 10%! :laugh:
Lol
If you seriously think the same company that puts RHD GTI on hold due to lack of profit is going to offer S3 in UK at a reasonable price AND offer 8-10% discount you must be dreaming...
I know someone who has received 8% on his S3 ordered 3 weeks ago. That's another topic :smiley:
Yes, but not the new model (if it is really coming out soon...).
Going back to your options. I feel your pain. 3 months was long enough for me before September. If I were told I'd have to wait 7 months I'd not be buying. You're right to be looking somewhere else.
However. You can be looking at an S3 which is an old (er) technology. For me it was no go as I like toys (ACC, park assist, cornering lights, voice integration for RNS-510). You can get cheaper GTI in SEAT Leon but then it's a brand image problem...
Difficult one...
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Precisely! You'll get nice discount on outgoing model but not on a new one I was referring to.
You do realise the NEW S3 wont be out for quite some time.
I had my doubts :) Now I know
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And good discount of 8% and in some cases 10%! :laugh:
Lol
If you seriously think the same company that puts RHD GTI on hold due to lack of profit is going to offer S3 in UK at a reasonable price AND offer 8-10% discount you must be dreaming...
I know someone who has received 8% on his S3 ordered 3 weeks ago. That's another topic :smiley:
Yes, but not the new model (if it is really coming out soon...).
Going back to your options. I feel your pain. 3 months was long enough for me before September. If I were told I'd have to wait 7 months I'd not be buying. You're right to be looking somewhere else.
However. You can be looking at an S3 which is an old (er) technology. For me it was no go as I like toys (ACC, park assist, cornering lights, voice integration for RNS-510). You can get cheaper GTI in SEAT Leon but then it's a brand image problem...
Difficult one...
My heart says VW, so i'll probably just be a mug and sit out the wait. But i'm not sure i'll see any benefit to handing over my deposit now rather than March/April.
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Why not grab yourself an introductory volume Golf R? Quite a few about and you can have it straigt away.
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Why not grab yourself an introductory volume Golf R? Quite a few about and you can have it straigt away.
hahaha. I took the Mrs over to the R they had in the showroom and said they have this one now to drive away next week.
Got her to sit in it and approve!
Then one by one i slid my hand away from each digit to reveal the price. Her response wasn't positive, lets say! :cry:
Having gone from and R32 i'd love to have the R, but sadly can't justify it.
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My heart says VW, so i'll probably just be a mug and sit out the wait. But i'm not sure i'll see any benefit to handing over my deposit now rather than March/April.
Protection against possible price rise March/April/May/June/July maybe... :) It depends how much they'd want.
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My heart says VW, so i'll probably just be a mug and sit out the wait. But i'm not sure i'll see any benefit to handing over my deposit now rather than March/April.
Protection against possible price rise March/April/May/June/July maybe... :) It depends how much they'd want.
Well he's willing to knock off £900!
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have a look on www.drivethedeal.com and see if he really is giving you the best deal
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have a look on www.drivethedeal.com and see if he really is giving you the best deal
Thanks very much for that link.
The price they quoted was just under 24. They price the dealer was offering was 26.
So who exactly are these people? Are they import vehicles?
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no...all they do is put you in touch with the best price UK garage supplying UK vehicles only. They don't take any money off you either - you deal direct with the garage. They must earn commission from the dealers.
My Dad bought his XC90 through them and I'm about to use them to replace my family car. Judging by the reviews of them online, most people share the feelings of my father...that they are well worth using. The only downside is that you can't part ex.
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According that I can 2k of a bog standard 3dr S3. NICE :D
I could never bring myself to buy a new car anyway but its nice to know lol
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I could never bring myself to buy a new car anyway but its nice to know lol
compare the second hand price of a 1 year old sub 10k mile car to a new car off that drivethedeal site. There is very little difference if any. It just proves how much the dealers rape you.
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I used DriveThe Deal as a bargaining tool. Went in, said if you can price match the business is yours and that I would prefer to deal with a local dealer. The dealer gave me the old sob stories, I walked and surprise, surprise got a phone call a few days later that they were prepared to price match. The benfit being that I got the car from a local dealer otherwise sometimes you need to travel 100's of miles to collect the car.
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It says free delivery to anywhere in the UK their webby ? ?
I agree its much easier to deal with a local dealer.
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Delivery in the UK... Agreed but I'd rather deal with someone face to face (especially when picking up) but if it's a matter of £1,000 then you'd be silly not to go with a dealer further out. But as a bargianing tool, I'd suggest you use it as a basis for negotiations.
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Delivery in the UK... Agreed but I'd rather deal with someone face to face (especially when picking up) but if it's a matter of £1,000 then you'd be silly not to go with a dealer further out. But as a bargianing tool, I'd suggest you use it as a basis for negotiations.
that's exactly what I'm doing. It cuts out all the bs if you say "this is the price I can get, what can you do?"
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I used dealdrivers.co.uk. Back in July had some superb prices. £2300 off or something similar. I took that offer and my local dealer agreed without moan. But they made about £2000 on my part-exchange so didn't lose too much.
Now it seems the dealdrivers' dealer no longer gets GTI allocation but you could bluff :)
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When I used DriveTheDeal the dealer did do a search and checked the price that was offered
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I'm waiting on that dealdrivers.co.uk to come back to me with a price - will let you know if better than drivethedeal
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I'm waiting on that dealdrivers.co.uk to come back to me with a price - will let you know if better than drivethedeal
just to let you know dealdrivers.co.uk has come back to me and were over £2.5k more than drivethedeal.com
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have a look on www.drivethedeal.com and see if he really is giving you the best deal
Thanks very much for that link.
The price they quoted was just under 24. They price the dealer was offering was 26.
So who exactly are these people? Are they import vehicles?
Just had a look over on www.drivethedeal.com they appear to have some good prices for the GTI. For my spec they are quoting about 11% off, which is good.
Have you gave them a phone to see if they have dealers with allocation?
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Phone around near the end of each month and find a few dealers with showroom cars, I paid exactly 25k for mine 3 weeks ago from a VW dealer, I think it works out about 15% discount compared to today's prices, obviously the old VAT rate helped.
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Have you gave them a phone to see if they have dealers with allocation?
the price comes from the dealers so I guess so. I'll find out for sure tomorrow.
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Phone around near the end of each month and find a few dealers with showroom cars, I paid exactly 25k for mine 3 weeks ago from a VW dealer, I think it works out about 15% discount compared to today's prices, obviously the old VAT rate helped.
That's a damm good price for the spec in your sig.
What was on the clock?
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Brand new, about 10 miles in the clock, if your lucky enough to phone around and a dealer has a stock car and it's the end of their quarter, normally you get a good deal! I think the deals will become more common with the arrival of the R and cancelled GTI orders.. A R to the same spec as my GTI would cost over 9k more than I paid.. Although I would love a R, who wouldn't, I couldn't justify 9k for 4WD, 60hp and Xenons...
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A few others to try:
http://www.drivethedeal.com/ (http://www.drivethedeal.com/)
http://www.autobytel.co.uk/ (http://www.autobytel.co.uk/)
http://www.broadspeed.com/ (http://www.broadspeed.com/)
http://www.carfile.net/ (http://www.carfile.net/)
http://www.dealdrivers.co.uk/ (http://www.dealdrivers.co.uk/)
http://www.coast2coastcars.co.uk/ (http://www.coast2coastcars.co.uk/)
http://www.ukcarbroker.co.uk/ (http://www.ukcarbroker.co.uk/)
http://www.autoebid.com/index.asp (http://www.autoebid.com/index.asp)
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Just wanted to update all.
I have now applied for a quote from Drive the deal and they are going to get back to me with estimated delivery times etc.... I'm sure it's going to be a long old wait either way.
I wondered what success you guys may have had with your local vw dealer matching or getting close to the offer made my drive the deal or any other broker?
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Just wanted to update all.
I have now applied for a quote from Drive the deal and they are going to get back to me with estimated delivery times etc.... I'm sure it's going to be a long old wait either way.
I wondered what success you guys may have had with your local vw dealer matching or getting close to the offer made my drive the deal or any other broker?
I've just got a quote from the ukcarbroker.
Quotation Details
VOLKSWAGEN GOLF 2.0 TSI GTI 5dr DSG (Hatchback Petrol)
Basic Vehicle Price £21557.23
Colour (Solid - Candy white) £0.00
Upholstery () £0.00
ACC - Adaptive chassis control £651.06
Cruise control £191.49
Park assist - front/rear parking sensors rear view camera £561.70
DVD Navigation w/6.5" colour touch screen, radio, armrest mounted 6CD/MP3, aux input,
30GB hard drive, SD card reader, dynaudio soundpack 8 speakers £1987.23
Flat tyre indicator £30.43
Electric glass sunroof £510.64
Bi-Xenon headlights and headlight washers £944.68
Multifunction steering wheel with bluetooth telephone preparation £348.94
Vienna leather with heated sports seats electric adjust drivers lumb front pass lumbar adjust £1544.68
Luxury pack 1 - Golf £100.00
Storage pack - Golf £59.57
Winter pack - Golf (when ordered with Bi-Xenon headlights and leather upholster) £204.26
18" Monza shadow alloy wheels £382.98
Total Factory Costs £7517.66
Less Discount £2616.74
Sub Total £26458.15
No Dealer Options Selected
Total Dealer Option Cost £0.00
Manufacturer Delivery £429.79
VAT £4705.39
Road Fund Licence £175.00
First Registration Fee £55.00
TOTAL VEHICLE PRICE £31823.33
Deposit £0.00
Part Ex Value £0.00
No Vehicle Extras Selected
TOTAL INVOICE PRICE £31823.33
Emailed the VW dealer and they offered to match the price if I ordered via there dealer.
Is this a good deal? I read a few posts the other day, with people saying that it was impossible to get a discount of the new GTI's?
Is a new model on the horizon and should I be waiting?
Also he specified that there would be a wait of approx. 12 weeks. But from the sound of things I presume this is going to be a lot longer.
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Have you tried drivethedeal.com think they are a lot less off the top of my head :wink:
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Done this twice now - printed off a drivethedeal quotation, went into my local and said "if you can match it, I'll order from you as I'd rather deal with a local dealer but if you can't then you can't expect me to pay more for something I can get cheaper elsewhere".
On both occassions they squirmed, made excuses so I just left it there. Low and behold, after a few days I get a call stating that they can match the deal.
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TOTAL VEHICLE PRICE £31823.33
Deposit £0.00
Part Ex Value £0.00
No Vehicle Extras Selected
TOTAL INVOICE PRICE £31823.33
Is this a good deal?
That's a lot of extras :grin:
IMHO the basic price is a good deal ... but for me, VW's options prices are just too much :shocked:
ETTO but I would rather have a basic spec R for that money which already includes Xenons, 18" Alloys and a few other bits as basic spec.
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TOTAL VEHICLE PRICE £31823.33
Deposit £0.00
Part Ex Value £0.00
No Vehicle Extras Selected
TOTAL INVOICE PRICE £31823.33
Is this a good deal?
That's a lot of extras :grin:
IMHO the basic price is a good deal ... but for me, VW's options prices are just too much :shocked:
ETTO but I would rather have a basic spec R for that money which already includes Xenons, 18" Alloys and a few other bits as basic spec.
Spec R was definitely considered, but I always liked the idea of a fully loaded car. Plus with the spec R the temptation to absolutely have the recaros in just pushed the price way to high.
So I guess based on a couple of the answers, there is now room to negotiate with your local dealers and get a discount. Thanks for the feed back guys. Can't wait to put my order in but worried about the actual lead time for delivery, especially after reading all the horror stories across the boards.
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Hi all, here's another update.
Went back yesterday and tried to get them to come down on the price after providing a print out of the drive the deal quote. Apparently their group wont deal with them and VW are investigating them. The best he could do was £500 and a tank of fuel.
If i go ahead with the order next week, it won't be delivered until Aug, so i may as well wait until 1st sept for the new reg plate.
I'm in West Sussex, any ideas who i should go and see to see if they can give me a better deal?
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Hi all, here's another update.
Went back yesterday and tried to get them to come down on the price after providing a print out of the drive the deal quote. Apparently their group wont deal with them and VW are investigating them. The best he could do was £500 and a tank of fuel.
If i go ahead with the order next week, it won't be delivered until Aug, so i may as well wait until 1st sept for the new reg plate.
I'm in West Sussex, any ideas who i should go and see to see if they can give me a better deal?
not much help, but that is a crap offer. 500 quid off a 30k car specced to the hilt?! also delivery in 6-7 months time?!!?!?!
I used dealdrivers last July and got around 10% off. Offers were better back then, but you should get much better than 500 quid off. PM me and I can share reference details to get an extra amount off for refferal. I basically got an email quote from dealdrivers, accepted it, then they put me in touch with a nearby VW dealer and from there on I dealt directly with that VW dealer. Reason why it is cheap is because you deal with the fleet dept of the dealer (so no pushy salesmen on a commission), but the whole experience was great. Got a BW within a few days and they delivered early :cool:
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I did a quick call arround and got £1000 off via internet broker (just first quick call about. The local VW dealer said he didn't do price patching with internet as car brokers unreliable blah blah blah and asked me what I would want to make the deal... I agreed to go away and call him back.
Glad I did as then did a proper call arround the UK and ended up with way bigger discount, AND these were actually dealers (as basically the broker just got a small finders fee) so then all your discussions etc and deposit are direct to their dealer.
I ended up with about a 9% discount off the list price. I simply then phoned the local dealer and said I can get the car for price X with a delivery date of price X, and yes or no could he match it (pre the local dealer as they're not too far from me so would be a lot less hassle and could pick up the car) he went off for a quick chat to his manager instantly agreed to match it. Job done.
Short answer is you may get told no initially but just go in there armed with the prices you've obtained, aim for a min of a 5% discount and they should match it. If not then take your £24k elsewhere as no matter what they say yes you can get good deals form VW dealers via brokers who get finders fees.
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I'm glad i posted now! I thought that deal offered was a bit naff!
I'm going to call around other dealerships this afternoon and see what kind of allocation they have and what deal they can do.
PM sent Keelaw, thanks!
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I'm glad i posted now! I thought that deal offered was a bit naff!
I'm going to call around other dealerships this afternoon and see what kind of allocation they have and what deal they can do.
PM sent Keelaw, thanks!
Keep us posted. When i was ordering mine there wasn't much of a discount being offered either. But after visiting a few i managed to get a decent deal. Now with the price rises you should be looking at 5% minimum discount.
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I think I would be asking do you have any allocations to order a car otherwise you are wasting your time. Most dealers cannot order GTI/GTDs at the moment as they have run out of allocations.
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Deal done. Managed to get my local to match the broker, well almost match the price.
Now the dull part of waiting until Aug for delivery! Which i'll probably hold out until sept for the new plates. :cry:
Thanks to everyone that helped, especially Keelaw who pointed me in the right direction to get a decent discount!
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Deal done. Managed to get my local to match the broker, well almost match the price.
Now the dull part of waiting until Aug for delivery! Which i'll probably hold out until sept for the new plates. :cry:
Thanks to everyone that helped, especially Keelaw who pointed me in the right direction to get a decent discount!
Was that Caffyns Haywards Heath?
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Deal done. Managed to get my local to match the broker, well almost match the price.
Now the dull part of waiting until Aug for delivery! Which i'll probably hold out until sept for the new plates. :cry:
Thanks to everyone that helped, especially Keelaw who pointed me in the right direction to get a decent discount!
Was that Caffyns Haywards Heath?
No Crawley called me back a few days later. As predicted by some on here!
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Well done.
Sounds a better deal than the one they offered initially. :smiley:
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Congrats Squirrell anyway mate. Hopefully VW will get their production ramped up a bit this year and you wont have the agonising wait that the rest of us orderers have suffered.
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No Crawley called me back a few days later. As predicted by some on here!
Good things come to those who wait :wink:
Congrats
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Nice one, glad to be of service. Bill's in the post :grin:
Noticed on another thread though that you have a 6 mth wait! Man, can't believe its come to this...!!
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Nice one, glad to be of service. Bill's in the post :grin:
Noticed on another thread though that you have a 6 mth wait! Man, can't believe its come to this...!!
Yep possibly more going by other members experiences. They always seem to put the build dates back! Who knows, things might get better, but i'm prepared for the worst!
On a positive note i might be one of the first with the new 60 reg plate GTi's.
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I was offered a very good price on my part x 56 reg 3 door GTI of £10,000 back in September and also got £900 knocked off the price of a new 5 door GTI.
My 56 reg GTI was an import UK spec from a broker and I paid around £18,000 so I think I have a good deal.
When I got the car I had to buy a space saver spare as it came with a can of foam and the lights had to be reset as they stayed on when the ignition was on otherwise no different from UK sourced car and I even got cruise control thrown in for free.The dealer knew car is an import from the swedish dealers stamp in the log book.
STill waiting on my new car expected April!