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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: Schuey on 13 January 2010, 21:30
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Any thoughts what I should advertise an 09 plate GTI for, spec as follows, Deep Black Metallic, 5 Dr, 2900 miles, DSG, Leather, RCD510, Winter Pack, Monza Shadows, front & rear park sensors, rear view cam.
Price new was £29,980.00
Thanks
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well there is one the same spec but 5 dr at vw dealers 2861 miles £22995
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well there is one the same spec but 5 dr at vw dealers 2861 miles £22995
Yeah that seems like a cheap car.......!! :shocked:
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and the dealer would want to take at least £1500 profit so £20,500? I'd start it privately at £22,750 and see who comes a knockin
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and the dealer would want to take at least £1500 profit so £20,500? I'd start it privately at £22,750 and see who comes a knockin
£20,500 is the p/ex value I have been offered so may sell it privately then.............My local dealers still have launch cars (silver, DSG, Leather etc....) up for £24K or more.
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its seems like you can get alot more spec on 2nd hand dsg cars for same or less £ than low spec 2nd hand manuals. Is that 29980 price taken off the new prices?
id be interested myself if it was manual
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its seems like you can get alot more spec on 2nd hand dsg cars for same or less £ than low spec 2nd hand manuals. Is that 29980 price taken off the new prices?
id be interested myself if it was manual
That's current list price, actual cost was £28K, plus a very long wait....!
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how old is it schuey?
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I work at Cheltenham VW we may be interested in buying it off you. Drop me a personal message with reg number of the car and I will see how much we will give you for it.
Lee Evans
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EVO1986 Lee
From your experience of GTI's MK5&MK6 which model holds there value better 3dr or 5 dr ?
Ben
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EVO1986 Lee
From your experience of GTI's MK5&MK6 which model holds there value better 3dr or 5 dr ?
Ben
there was a thread over on the MK5 board about this and it seems the 5drs do hold their value slightly better. but this was only one persons research.
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Schuey, I am getting offered £22,500 for 5 door Carbon Grey, DSG, Leather, DVD Sat Nav, Bluetooth, tyre indicator, cruise control, Monza shadows, front and rear sensors, rear parking camera, park assist and luxury pack. The car is immaculate save for one minor kerbing to the alloy which dealers don't care about. I would say that although there is a large waiting list for new that the bottom has dropped out of used. I have decided to keep mine and run it as a third car until things improve.
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^^^^ This is were people are getting it mixed up. There is no long waiting list but there is a long waiting time as production has been cut on the gti. Theres a difference.
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5 door DSG Holds best value. Less of them on Vw forecourts.
Stack loads of 3 door manuals available
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this is the mk6 section. there more dsg 5drs mk6 gtis than 3dr manual mk6 gtis for sale at Vw. around 30 dsg and 13 manual
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Dsg is what everyone wants FACT, 5 door much better to sell as so much more usable. 3 door manuals are not to good at all got to have the monza shadows on others wise might aswell have steel wheels. Carbon grey / black / steel grey all hugely diserable. Nav is a waste of money for resell leather is the one to go for.
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Dsg is what everyone wants FACT, 5 door much better to sell as so much more usable. 3 door manuals are not to good at all got to have the monza shadows on others wise might aswell have steel wheels. Carbon grey / black / steel grey all hugely diserable. Nav is a waste of money for resell leather is the one to go for.
Plenty out there (including me) that don't like Automatics/DSG and would never buy one.
Some prefer Autos/DSG but plenty don't. (Around 50/50....ish)
You should know that if you're in the trade.
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DSG's are the future, manual yes its a nice manual I have a manual revo'd gtd, but it would have to be dsg in the gti and of course in the golf r its a must. But hey some people just dont like it if you have not had the opportunity to have one for a while then you cant appreciate how good it is. Very few people when I test drive them in a dsg get long enough to drive it and because it so alien to them they save them selves they cant justify £1300 and stick with a manual.
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Automatics have been around for decades. DSG is an excellent, efficient and fast automatic.
If autos are your thing.
Not my thing I'm afraid and never will be.
I can see the pros and cons for both but for me and many others we will never buy automatic no matter how fast it changes gear or how many clutches it has or how well the 'manual' mode works.
It just is not for some people.
That's why it's not the future - just an improvement on long existing technology.
Anyway let's not turn this into yet another manual v DSG thread - the original one was very,very long. Probably because opinion is so divided.
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It just is not for some people.
True ive used a DSG quite regular for the past 4 years i prefer the manual. Each to there own but DSG is not quite there yet for me.
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mark my words dsg = future.
The amount of orders we get for cars now in dsg is growing especially that some deriatives are more economical than manuals less co2 faster. The info on the hybrid plus dsg going potentially in the new coupe golf / jetta is amazing.
I like my manual gtd but would prefer a dsg if I had a gti. In there own right both great drives.
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You work for VW? In sales?
Why are you plugging DSG??
Any serious salesman/woman would know the split between the two is down to personal preference.
What's your game?
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DSG makes more money, doesn't it. If it's the future and everyone wants it, VW would have the confidence to make it standard at no extra cost and make manual a discount option.
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Remember everyone he's in the trade and works for Vw, ie he knows fcuk all :smiley:
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ie he knows fcuk all :smiley:
afterall, hes the one that hears what potential buyers/owners are saying at the dealerships :rolleyes:
rather then biased owners thoughts of why they chose at the time when they bought their GTi.
I think hes more on the fence to comment carl then you are :lipsrsealed:.
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Well i surpose with coments like "Dsg is what everbody wants FACT" he is right. Not. i dont want one and theres a few on here with manuals. :rolleyes: :lipsrsealed:
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Well i surpose with coments like "Dsg is what everbody wants FACT" he is right. Not. i dont want one and theres a few on here with manuals. :rolleyes: :lipsrsealed:
+1. I test drove a DSG and a manual, for me it had to be the manual as I like to be in complete control of my car also I just didn't like the DSG but it's all a matter of opinion. I don't think a dealer salesman should come on here stating that DSG is the future, nobody knows that.
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DSG makes more money, doesn't it. If it's the future and everyone wants it, VW would have the confidence to make it standard at no extra cost and make manual a discount option.
SEAT has made DSG the only gearbox available in the Ibiza cupra models. My local dealer feels this has put a few people off.
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mark my words dsg = future.
How well is DSG doing in holding its value? Ie how much of the option price is retained 2nd hand?
Actually a full list of what does hold value vs what doesn't would be interesting and no doubt would help undedcided prospective owners.
Eg I saw a post which claimed that leather held its value well, whereas the RNS510 wasn't worth much 2nd hand at all.
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It would be interesting to know the theft ratio of the two too, as its much easier for a 10 year old (maybe thats a bit old nowadays) to drive a DSG than a manual.
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... as its much easier for a 10 year old (maybe thats a bit old nowadays) to drive a DSG than a manual.
Not to mention women....
(dons sex discrimanation proof vest)
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... as its much easier for a 10 year old (maybe thats a bit old nowadays) to drive a DSG than a manual.
Not to mention women....
(dons sex discrimanation proof vest)
Ooh bad boy!! I think Rolfe is the only woman on here with DSG and she had some problems getting used to it. Me? I'm a woman with a manual. He he :grin:
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Well i surpose with coments like "Dsg is what everbody wants FACT" he is right. Not. i dont want one and theres a few on here with manuals. :rolleyes: :lipsrsealed:
+1. I test drove a DSG and a manual, for me it had to be the manual as I like to be in complete control of my car also I just didn't like the DSG but it's all a matter of opinion. I don't think a dealer salesman should come on here stating that DSG is the future, nobody knows that.
To be fair he's only said he works in the sales dept at Cheltenham, not that he's a salesman. If he is let's hope his manager doesn't look on here. :lipsrsealed:
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Dsg cars have better 2nd hand forecourt Value. Just look on vw's national Car database prices.
Same spec cars with DSG to manual go for around £1500 more.
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If dsg is the future then I am going to move to a manufacturer that doesnt think so. Been in this dsg MK5 Gti for 4weeks now and its bored the life out of me. :undecided:
fast?yes
easy?yes
convenient?yes
fun? Nope. but ETTO i guess
As for economy... why can i only get 26.6mpg from the GTI??? Its not much more than the R32 used to give me. :embarassed:
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If dsg is the future then I am going to move to a manufacturer that doesnt think so. Been in this dsg MK5 Gti for 4weeks now and its bored the life out of me. :undecided:
fast?yes
easy?yes
convenient?yes
fun? Nope. but ETTO i guess
As for economy... why can i only get 26.6mpg from the GTI??? Its not much more than the R32 used to give me. :embarassed:
Sounds about right for town driving :undecided:
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If dsg is the future then I am going to move to a manufacturer that doesnt think so. Been in this dsg MK5 Gti for 4weeks now and its bored the life out of me. :undecided:
fast?yes
easy?yes
convenient?yes
fun? Nope. but ETTO i guess
As for economy... why can i only get 26.6mpg from the GTI??? Its not much more than the R32 used to give me. :embarassed:
Sounds about right for town driving :undecided:
Yes i would say so. great for town, or round a track for those that want to concentrate on steering :lipsrsealed: :rolleyes:
Anything inbetween... manual is more engaging.
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If dsg is the future then I am going to move to a manufacturer that doesnt think so. Been in this dsg MK5 Gti for 4weeks now and its bored the life out of me. :undecided:
fast?yes
easy?yes
convenient?yes
fun? Nope. but ETTO i guess
As for economy... why can i only get 26.6mpg from the GTI??? Its not much more than the R32 used to give me. :embarassed:
Automatics have always been easier and more convenient, less economical and more importantly less fun. That's why the Americans have had them for decades (try and and get a manual hire car in the states!!). DSG may be a brilliant Auto box - but at the end of the day that's all it is. An Automatic.
I'm not trying to score points or anything but the DSG is just a very modern (and very good) Automatic.
I know plenty of people really like the DSG - just my opinion.
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Dsg cars have better 2nd hand forecourt Value. Just look on vw's national Car database prices.
Same spec cars with DSG to manual go for around £1500 more.
Awesome! Cheers - I think I have made money on my DSG then given the discount I got on it :laugh:
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If dsg is the future then I am going to move to a manufacturer that doesnt think so. Been in this dsg MK5 Gti for 4weeks now and its bored the life out of me. :undecided:
fast?yes
easy?yes
convenient?yes
fun? Nope. but ETTO i guess
As for economy... why can i only get 26.6mpg from the GTI??? Its not much more than the R32 used to give me. :embarassed:
Sounds about right for town driving :undecided:
Yes i would say so. great for town, or round a track for those that want to concentrate on steering :lipsrsealed: :rolleyes:
Anything inbetween... manual is more engaging.
It was the mpg I was saying sounded right for about town. I have a mans gearbox in mine :grin:
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I like the DSG very well. I still grab for the gearstick sometimes though, and sometimes the whole shebang does a sort of double-take because it can't anticipate what I'm about to do. The answer to that last is to use the paddles of course, but you have to think about that and you may not be thinking about it at that moment.
I genuinely like it, but I can also see why some people don't and I can't see any reason for having an argument about it. I suspect it's true that the DSG is the future, but it's likely to be a generational thing, with younger drivers attracted to the technology, getting used to it from the start (it does need a slightly different style of driving), and then not knowing that there might be things the manual does better - or at least differently.
I think there will be a market for both systems for the foreseeable future.
Rolfe.
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In all these replies I have about 2 valuations.............. the rest of you start arguing over DSG & manual......AGAIN!!!!! :laugh: :rolleyes:
Post your own topic & argue on there in future :laugh:
Gotta agree though manual is better :shocked: