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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: GTD-Smurf on 09 January 2010, 20:20
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Has anyone had the Mobridge bluetooth unit installed to there MKVI
http://www.mobridge-ipod.co.uk/ (http://www.mobridge-ipod.co.uk/)
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No experience of it but it was discussed in a recent thread that might give you some info
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=139693.0 (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=139693.0)
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The mobridge for VW CanBus is new, so I doubt you'll find many (if any) users. Cartronics aren't far from me so I'm going to see if I can arrange a demo next week.
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Great!! Be interested to hear how good it is :smiley:
ask them if it is possible to add another digit to the call number you have dialed ie:- a lot of companys now once you have got through to them request you to press another number to get through to the required Dept, would be interested whether or not this is possible with this unit ??
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Do you guys think it would be easy to swap the VW "Premium bluetooth" out for a MoBridge unit ?
Im guessing both are Canbus and maybe it can use the factory mic etc...
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From what I read of the mobridge manual it states the same functionality as the VW equipment.
Phone compatibility matrix http://www.mobridge-ipod.co.uk/docs/mObridgeCompatibilityMatrix.pdf
Manual here http://www.mobridge-ipod.co.uk/_imgStoreVirt/resources/mObridge_BT_VW_Manual_V5.pdf
It states on page 5(pdf) or 6 of the manual numbers "The functionality provided by mObridge is identical to the factory telephone for the RNS-510 and RCD-510. You can refer to the respective user manual for your RNS-510 or RCD-510 for further information." so I would assume it uses the factory mic, it looks like a T connctor in the wiring so that it connects behind the radio. There is also a bypass switch which you can set it to when VW scan the car so that it just passes the signals straight to the radio otherwise it flags and error trying to talk to the radio.
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Found a utube Video Demo of VW Mobridge :-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQdD2FvqEAs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQdD2FvqEAs)
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They need to shoot the person that did that - it doesn't show anything really
I thought that when I watched the youtube video and so didnt bother posting it.
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Good info,
I'd be in but will not be able to commit until I see my car.
I reckon I'll be looking for a deal in March.
good luck with filling in the other places.
Am looking forward to reading your review.
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Right, i've spoken to Cartronics this morning ( 01932 332141 ) and they've said prices are as follows:
Beat me to it :wink: I'm interested but again, car's not due until April.
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Right, i've spoken to Cartronics this morning ( 01932 332141 ) and they've said prices are as follows:
Unit £349 inc VAT
Fitting and coding £126 inc VAT
Total : £475 fitted
If we can get 12 people to purchase, he will do a group buy as follows:
Unit £315 inc VAT
Fitting and coding £100 inc VAT
Total : £ 415 fitted
I'd be up for this, so should I start a seperate thread in the GB section ?
How funny... I emailed them last night about a group buy and have been dealing with Mark today. You posted first, so I'll let you deal with it. :grin:
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Oh, and count me in, obviously. :laugh:
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It was indeed. Great minds... :cool:
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Yep, £315 for the unit. Seems like a good deal and it looks to be better than the Fiscon, especially because it's Parrot under the hood.
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You can put me down for a Group buy fit. :smiley: will have to wait untill i get my motor first though, looks like it will be March 1st :angry:
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damian, you could always tell the guys from mobridge that if you get the discount you will put up a video and review it.
If they are shrewd they will agree. Really looking forward to a review...good luck
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This has probably been asked before when talking about Fiscon but does fitting an aftermarket bluetooth like MoBridge/Fiscon affect your manufacturers warranty at all?
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Wow £126 fitting!! Its plug and play. What exactly are they charging for?
I've kind of lost the jist of the MoBridge over the Fiscon.
What does it offer that the Fiscon can't?
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What does it offer that the Fiscon can't?
The ability to press a button during a call - i.e. press 1 for customer service, 2 for parts etc.
The other thing was to have more than 1 number per contact, but the other Fiscon thread says you can have more than 1 - as long as you use the RNS to select them.
I'll stick with the Fiscon. £300 fitted at one of their sessions - or mine was £300 delivered to fit myself. My dealer is going to enable it in the vagcom when I get the car for free. At least its a proven unit, as heaps of folk on here have it and rate it highly.
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full synchronization with the steering wheel buttons, check the pdf manual from the link posted earlier..
overall, even with the extra cost it still represents value, what value do you put on having full use of all those lovely buttons....
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I don't understand why the people at Fiscon can't code it so you can use the phone button? Seems like a great bit of kit with only a couple of silly ommissions.
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Also the fact that the mObridge has a Parrot chipset.
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The other thing was to have more than 1 number per contact, but the other Fiscon thread says you can have more than 1 - as long as you use the RNS to select them.
That was me and you can select more than 1 number from the same contact via the MFD
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Ah I see.
Maybe I am a bit biased as I have had the Fiscon from the first weekend of owning the car but if there were functions I was clearly missing I'm sure I would have realised that by now, 3 months on.
Ok here are my thoughts on the Fiscon.
The phone button on the steering wheel doesn't work. What function does this serve when working? I can answer and terminate calls using the OK button.
I can operate all the functions using this button but why would I want to go through a dozen key presses when I can select the same function on the headset with only a few key presses?
I can see the DTMF tones certainly being an added advantage. However strangely enough I've never needed this option in the 3 months and only tested it out when it was mentioned on another thread. I only ever call my wife or kids while driving and they are all programmed into the front screen of the RCD510. For those that make outgoing calls to companies and their mailboxes, I can see this is a must though for the DTMF.
One thing I would say though is the £100 or £126 fitting fee is an absolute rip off. It is childs play. Literally a 5 - 10 minute job. Fair enough the VAG COM may present you with problems but I'd rather give an independent £20 for a couple of minutes work. Or do like I did and gave my salesman a bottle for getting it done for me picking the car up. :laugh:
The unit looks identical to the Fiscon and I believe it will be, so why could Fiscon offer "free fitting" via the group buy?
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One thing I would say though is the £100 or £126 fitting fee is an absolute rip off. It is childs play. Literally a 5 - 10 minute job. Fair enough the VAG COM may present you with problems but I'd rather give an independent £20 for a couple of minutes work.
The unit looks identical to the Fiscon and I believe it will be, so why could Fiscon offer "free fitting" via the group buy?
My thoughts exactly, I just need some info about what needs doing with the VAG-COMM as I`m friends with my local indie, and he`ll code it no problem for me as long as I know what needs doing. I think I want the MoBridge and will jump on the GB if anyone can give me any info, tried googling and couldnt find it.
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I think I want the MoBridge and will jump on the GB if anyone can give me any info, tried googling and couldnt find it.
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=140047.0
:)
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Does anyone know what microphone the mObridge uses? The pic on the Cartronics website shows this twin Parrot one, which I'm not keen on.
(http://www.gadgetguy.com.au/assets/images/7456_Parrot-mki9200-microphone.jpg)
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The mic is fitted by the interior light. Fitting day is tomorrow....review will follow asap afterwards..
well done that man...roll on the review....(with plenty of pics etc etc etc....)
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The mic is fitted by the interior light. Fitting day is tomorrow....review will follow asap afterwards..
Looking forward to it!
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My thoughts exactly, I just need some info about what needs doing with the VAG-COMM as I`m friends with my local indie, and he`ll code it no problem for me as long as I know what needs doing.
I'm sure I have already posted they details but here it is again.
Enable telephone 77 on the CAN gateway.
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One premium feature which the VW kit has that neither the Fiscon nor the MoBridge has is voice command. This means it is much much safer for drivers to use to the phone.
It also means that there is one button that neither kit uses and that is the little mic button on the left of the MFSW.
MoBridge therefore is not accurate when it says it has the same functionality of the VW kit. If you look at the pdf, there is no reference to the mic button nor voice activated control at all.
All said though, it depends on how much you value voice activated controls for your phone versus the ability to pair more than just rSAP phones.
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I posted that mobridge has the same functionality as OE and I stand correct.
So, when all said and done the best choice for someone who owns a blackberry is Mobridge.
As a blackberry owner, that's the point..(VW missed a trick here) but each to their own....
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I posted that mobridge has the same functionality as OE and I stand correct.
blame MoBridge, you did rightly quote from their brochure.
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My thoughts exactly, I just need some info about what needs doing with the VAG-COMM as I`m friends with my local indie, and he`ll code it no problem for me as long as I know what needs doing.
I'm sure I have already posted they details but here it is again.
Enable telephone 77 on the CAN gateway.
Ah, musta missed it....thanks
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I'd just like to thank my local council for doing bugger all with the £1800 council tax I pay them every year....
:grin: +1 :angry:
Looking forward to your thoughts on the mobridge.
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ah - the manual says the iphone isn't supported for SMS
The Fiscon does though doesn't it?
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Yes the Fiscon read my SMS when I first installed it but the memory seems to be full on the Fiscon unit or something similar as it is displaying a SMS from around Christmas time as my last one.
I think it all depends on the phone.
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I think even the Fiscon won't read iPhone text messages - it's the phone, rather than the Bluetooth handsfree, afaik.
Thanks for the info, Damian. :)
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Good to hear. :cool:
Come on people, sign up to the group buy. :grin:
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Doesn't sound good, I had pretty much decided on the Mobridge over Fiscon... What iphone have you got? Was it working fine at first?
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Hmmm - it's going back on Monday..
1) the mic keeps falling down
2) it keeps telling me " new telephone book available " even though there isn't
3) it keeps telling me it's downloading the phonebook even though it's present on the highline.
4) when these things happen, no sound comes out - even though the iPhone is playing
5) it shuts the system down and gives a blank screen where I can't access anything
6 ) when I press 'phone' it says " system starting" for about 2 minutes
Something is clearly not right....
Sounds easier just not to use the phone when driving, saves money too.
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Doesn't sound good, I had pretty much decided on the Mobridge over Fiscon... What iphone have you got? Was it working fine at first?
I went with Fiscon - tried and tested by loads of people on here.
Its currently sitting in a box under my computer desk with my RNS510 - waiting for my car to come!!
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Hmmm - it's going back on Monday..
1) the mic keeps falling down
2) it keeps telling me " new telephone book available " even though there isn't
3) it keeps telling me it's downloading the phonebook even though it's present on the highline.
4) when these things happen, no sound comes out - even though the iPhone is playing
5) it shuts the system down and gives a blank screen where I can't access anything
6 ) when I press 'phone' it says " system starting" for about 2 minutes
Something is clearly not right....
maybe just a poor installation?
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That doesn't sound good. On paper, the mObridge looks to be the better system, but if it's unreliable in practice, I will go for the Fiscon, which as pointed out by some else is tried and tested.
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I have a 3Gs
I'm assuming it's either an installation problem or a fault with the unit. It all worked perfectly when I picked the car up and these "errors" don't happen everytime. The "new telephone book available " has happened since day one but the other things have only happened since yesterday.
For example, I wanted to call someone so I pressed the phonebook button on the screen, then pressed the search, then started typing in the name. After 3 letters, it threw me out and when I went back into the phonebook, it said " no phone book available. There is no phone connected ". But when I went into the highline, the phonebook was there...
Baffled....
Could it be more to do with the connection between the phone and the box? i.e. interference with the bluetooth.
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It really should be fine there.
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Hmmm - it's going back on Monday..
1) the mic keeps falling down
2) it keeps telling me " new telephone book available " even though there isn't
3) it keeps telling me it's downloading the phonebook even though it's present on the highline.
4) when these things happen, no sound comes out - even though the iPhone is playing
5) it shuts the system down and gives a blank screen where I can't access anything
6 ) when I press 'phone' it says " system starting" for about 2 minutes
how is the mic attached is it just stuck on?
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Just thinking, perhaps it needs a firmware update?
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A lot of places wouldn't do it, or even think to do it, and if it's old stock...
Do you know which version it has installed?
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I noticed in one of your earlier posts that you get the message "new telephone book available" when connecting. I get the same with iPhone 3GS, Fiscon and RCD510. Does your unit display a full call list, including calls made/received when not connected to MoBridge?
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Interesting - seems to be an iPhone issue rather than a MoBridge/Fiscon one.
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I don't doubt the iPhone is ultimately to blame, but it sounds like the firmware on the Fiscon/mObridge needs to be updated to correct this issue.
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I think here:
http://www.mobridgeinc.com/support/updates
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I don't doubt the iPhone is ultimately to blame, but it sounds like the firmware on the Fiscon/mObridge needs to be updated to correct this issue.
You're right. My previous Sony Ericsson integrated perfectly with Fiscon, and displayed full call lists on the MFD.
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Keep the iPhone - sell the car...
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It might be worth letting mObridge know, or perhaps they're already aware. If they're a good company, they'll want to know, and they'll want to fix any issues.
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To be perfectly honest, I think if it was as easy to just upgrade the firmware, then Fiscon would have done this long ago. Looks like a compatibility issue between the iphone and these units.
Apple being awkward?!? Surely not :rolleyes:
Sonyericcson works a treat with full call list.
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Sonyericcson works a treat with full call list.
shame their phones aren't much cop nowadays
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Is it more stable with the media cable unplugged?
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It doesn't sound great. I'd email mObridge direct.
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I wonder if I was too hasty and confused the system by pressing buttons before it was ready and fully active ?
Probably. The RNS510 is a computer running Windows Mobile. Together the RNS, mobridge and DIS are a little network - and you know what they're like :grin:. Chuck some software by Apple into the mix and I'm surprised it works at all...
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Here's some feedback on the VW kit today.
Was driving around as usual and the kit was working fine. Then parked up to pick up the missus from hospital (she's fine by the way), but she wasn't ready yet so I went off again to get some dinner. Noticed that the connecting message was on for longer than normal, then the MFD blanked out. Other menus were fine, just the phone was blank. Pressing a button noticed that it was still connecting... very weird. Anyway, got to Burger King, had a burger whilst watching the Manchester derby, got back into the car and after a break I thought the kit might be ok. Still no joy as it was "connecting". Getting worried now since was expecting call from the wife.
Pulled over and realised that the phone was off. I had turned it off in the hospital! :grin:
Kit was fine.... my brain clearly wasn't!! :embarassed:
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Right, connected the media-in and no issues. I got in, started the car and waited a minute or so before connecting to the M-in.
How do you mean "before connecting"? Does it not connect automatically when you get in the car without any intervention from yourself?
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Any chance of some piccies now? we've all been very patient! :rolleyes:
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Yes, Pic's and a Review please :smiley: what it will do and what it will not do, reliabilty Ect :smiley:
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come on damian, you promised, we need a review and pics please,
cheers, J
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Dead?!
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Do you think it could have anything to do with the mobridge mate?
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Did the dealer mention it at all?