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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: Jkctr on 20 October 2009, 19:10
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...that i just realised how awesome MK2's are?
Getting a house means i need to sell my car (well not really but works out the best)
So im looking into a car that i will like, will not depreciate, fun and reliable (is the mk2 reliable?) and couldnt believe i overlooked the mk2 GTI! My uncle owned one years ago and always thought they were cool but just never had the intention of getting as i had a Type R from 20 so just progressed from there and, no offence, the mk2 would be a step back from there.
I looked at MK4's and the reliability issue is to big a put off. I think i could own a mk2 and lose nothing (disregarding insurance, tax etc) over a year and be able to save for the next car i want in the process!
Looking online there are some awesome examples with engine changes and the like and then just mint standard ones!
Not 100% on the budget but around £5k to purchase is likely
so what do you think? What are my options with that budget...should i go higher?
Cheers :cool:
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Why would you want a mk2 if you had £5k to spend? :huh:
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Why would you want a mk2 if you had £5k to spend? :huh:
x a f**king million
£5k buys some strong cars, thinking S3 or M3 Evo.
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Thats close to G60/rallye money you should be able to get a mint mk2 for that money.
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I want something that is cheap and wont depreciate, its also the bottom end of something like an S3 or M3 evo. I wont do many miles, 3-5k tops in the year so wouldnt mind owning something like a mk2!
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I looked at MK4's and the reliability issue is to big a put off.
Reliability issue on a MK4, is that a typo? Make sure you allocate 50p out of your £5k for a notepad and pen to write down the daily faults your MK2 will develop.
If I had £5k - I wouldn't even be thinking MK2.
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Ah bloody hell! Is there a reliable golf!? :laugh:
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if your car is relaible your just not driveing it fast enough.
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My R32 gets hammered at every occasion :laugh:
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reliable cars are boring! weekends were made for lookin under the bonnet of a mk2 gti. if u want reliable buy a honda :laugh:
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A mk2 is something you buy becuase you really want a mk2, not because it's going to be a super reliable, economical, cheap runabout or whatever.
If you really want one because you have a passion for them then go for it. Don't end up spending 5k on some daft low miles stuck in grandads garage wonder though. Spend a couple of grand and keep some in the bank for the inevitable replacements/fixings!
At the end of the day mk2s are all at least what, 17 years old? Average miles they'll have 170k on the clock. Things will fail and need replacing. If you love the car and it's what you want it won't bother you (as it doesn't me, example, took mine out the other day and saw the oil light flashing at lower revs so instantly booked it in for a new pump and now it's sorted). If it isn't what you really want it'll irritate the hell out of you!
I would say if you don't love them, don't go there :grin:
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If you want reliability, buy an old Audi.
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If you want reliability, buy an old Audi.
+1. You won't go far wrong there.
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If you want reliability, buy an old Audi.
+1. You won't go far wrong there.
I beg to differ :lipsrsealed:
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If you want reliability, buy an old Audi.
+1. You won't go far wrong there.
I beg to differ :lipsrsealed:
With any make of car, there are good ones and there are bad ones. Its just that Audi produce more good ones than bad ones, where as French cars..........well, need I say more! :undecided:
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If you want reliability, buy an old Audi.
+1. You won't go far wrong there.
I beg to differ :lipsrsealed:
What was your experience?
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not because it's going to be a super reliable, economical, cheap runabout or whatever.
Errr that's why I bought one.
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what was your experience?
i'd say he bought a proper old audi, not a ghey a8.
fast old cars have generally had a hard life, and it shows. once they are sorted in the end it's well worth it.
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i'd say he bought a proper old audi
Maybe, i've own some old Audi's myself, well underrated.
not a ghey a8
There's nothing 'ghey' about an A8. Luxury,performance,handling,build quality,reliability, mine has everything you could want for a mere three grand. Talking about gays, i thought you were the only gay in the village? :tongue:
fast old cars have generally had a hard life, and it shows. once they are sorted in the end it's well worth it.
Not always. Some are actually very well looked after. Its just finding one.
I wasn't suggesting necessarily buying a performance Audi. There are plenty of good 80's,90's,100's,A3's,A4's,A6's. The list goes on and on.
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Jules, get one - just don't spend all your budget on one and keep some of that for repairs :grin: 3-5k miles per year is not a lot and only time mine has let me down is because of a dodgy connection to the injection pump :rolleyes: not bad for over 200k miles :wink:
Just make sure you've got good service history with it and maybe take your uncle with you to view them if he knows about them.
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a8s are the size of the f**king titanic. they are comfy but hardly what would be classed as a performance car, even with the v8.
the only way you will get an old car that is not needing work done; is if the previous owner has done it all themselves first.
anyway JULES for £5k you could have a sexy m535i and £2,500 for the 4 finest hoes to ride with.
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a8s are the size of the f**king titanic
Yep :grin:
they are comfy but hardly what would be classed as a performance car, even with the v8.
What utter rubbish. 0-60 in 6.9 seconds and top speed of 155mph isn't bad. The same as a mk5 gti.
The 0-60 doesn't do the car justice, once on the move, 30mph+, it is extremely fast. Testing it, it did 30-70 in 6 seconds, which i bet is faster than any golf gti, probably faster than the R32.
the only way you will get an old car that is not needing work done; is if the previous owner has done it all themselves first.
True. But if you have the ability and the patience, then these cars are out there.
The A8's are so silly cheap now that buyers can easily budget for any extra work.
It depends if the buyer has the ability to fix these cars because they aren't easy to work on.
Out of interest have you actually driven an A8?
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Cheers everyone. Ill keep an open mind on them and will try and view some if i can
Should i steer clear or engine transplanted ones (cant see it helping reliability!)
http://pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1255127.htm
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Having a cool old car thatis still on the road because you have kept it going also gives you satisfaction.
I see my car as more of a hobby,i like getting under the bonnet at weekends and searching for parts and writing daft questions on here asking whats wrong buts its a learning curve and i would be bored sh!tless otherwise.
My mate had a honda and spent 2500 getting someone else to put a vtech lump in it and then took all the credit for it.
What did he learn from that? how to open his chequebook?
Think it all boils down to whether you ve got the patience to get your hands dirty or spend lots of money.
Im on my 8 th one now and i take a bit of stick for it but at the end of the day no matter what car ive had ive always wanted another mk 2.
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no matter what car ive had ive always wanted another mk 2.
Couldn't have put it better myself.
I'm always getting stick for pouring money into my car. Since I've owned it I've replaced loads of stuff, and had it in the garage more times than I would like. But as you said, it's a hobby.
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If you want reliability, buy an old Audi.
+1. You won't go far wrong there.
I beg to differ :lipsrsealed:
What was your experience?
I have had 9 Audis in various guises and truly rate them. I will always have another one.
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0-60 in 6.9 seconds and top speed of 155mph isn't bad. The same as a mk5 gti.
you seem to think that going fast in a straight line makes it a performance car. it certainly does not. a mk5 golf would knock an a8 senseless the minute you introduce any kind of corner.
The A8's are so silly cheap now that buyers can easily budget for any extra work.
It depends if the buyer has the ability to fix these cars because they aren't easy to work on.
Out of interest have you actually driven an A8?
the cars are cheap because the running costs are high (insurance, fuel, maintenance.) I have driven an a6 but not an a8. I've been out in one a friend of mine has a couple of times (very rarely admittedly) but he hardly drives the thing due to the petrol it uses.
there is no denying it's a big pimpin car, but don't try to argue that it's something it's not.
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Cheers everyone. Ill keep an open mind on them and will try and view some if i can
Should i steer clear or engine transplanted ones (cant see it helping reliability!)
http://pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1255127.htm
i don't know why you wouldn't want that?
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if u aint handy with a spanner and have uber amounts of patience i wouldnt bother + i dont see it as a step backward being as i used to own a mk5 (i feel like a stuck record saying that) mk2 is a great car and much better for my needs!
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Cheers everyone. Ill keep an open mind on them and will try and view some if i can
Should i steer clear or engine transplanted ones (cant see it helping reliability!)
http://pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1255127.htm
i don't know why you wouldn't want that?
For £5k I'd want the central locking to work properly and the sunroof rail fixed and 12 months MOT. I paid £750 for my car and it came with working central locking, working sunroof (not leaking :afro: ) 12months MOT and 6 months tax, can't argue there!
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Having a cool old car that is still on the road because you have kept it going also gives you satisfaction.
I see my car as more of a hobby,i like getting under the bonnet at weekends and searching for parts and writing daft questions on here asking whats wrong buts its a learning curve and i would be bored sh!tless otherwise.
Think it all boils down to whether you ve got the patience to get your hands dirty or spend lots of money.
Im on my 8 th one now and i take a bit of stick for it but at the end of the day no matter what car ive had ive always wanted another mk 2.
+1
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you seem to think that going fast in a straight line makes it a performance car. it certainly does not. a mk5 golf would knock an a8 senseless the minute you introduce any kind of corner.
Actually you would be very surprised how well it takes corners. The sport model is exceptional(which i have), the non-sport isn't as good. But you wouldn't have a clue because you've never driven one :grin:
the cars are cheap because the running costs are high (insurance, fuel, maintenance.)
Correct. Its probably the maintenance costs more than anything. Parts don't usually fail, but worn out or failed parts can cost a fortune, and its not easy to repair.
there is no denying it's a big pimpin car, but don't try to argue that it's something it's not.
Its a great car. The A8 certainly is a performance car, but i would probably only count the sport model as the true all rounder. Forget the 2.8 and 3.7, the 4.2 is a must.
I've been out in one a friend of mine has a couple of times (very rarely admittedly) but he hardly drives the thing due to the petrol it uses.
Was that a sport model or a normal model? It does make alot of difference. The non sport bounces all over the place. The sport is very firm and has endless grip.
I have driven an a6 but not an a8
So how can you really comment at all? That would be like me saying bmw's are crap, but i've never driven one :rolleyes:
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If you want reliability, buy an old Audi.
+1. You won't go far wrong there.
I beg to differ :lipsrsealed:
What was your experience?
i has an s2 avant. Its fooking awesome for short periods in between bits falling off.
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This threads doing well.....i thought this only happened in the mk6 section :laugh:
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I was going to comment about how crap mk6's are, oh yes i've never driven one :laugh:
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If you want reliability, buy an old Audi.
+1. You won't go far wrong there.
I beg to differ :lipsrsealed:
What was your experience?
i has an s2 avant. Its fooking awesome for short periods in between bits falling off.
Awesome machine. 2.2L 20v 5 cylinder turbo, 220bhp?
What fell off of it? :huh:
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Imagine a mk5 but tweaked to be slightly (but only just noticeably) better.
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Imagine a mk5 but tweaked to be slightly (but only just noticeably) better.
But they are crap too. Have i driven one? no :rolleyes:
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If it's only for a year or two you should get one just for the experience and hopefully you'll get a goodun that doesn't break down (I've had two that haven't needed much work mechanically, so there must be more out there).
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If it's only for a year or two you should get one just for the experience and hopefully you'll get a goodun that doesn't break down (I've had two that haven't needed much work mechanically, so there must be more out there).
Thats what im thinking...not much can go wrong if its only going to be doing around 30 miles a week tops!
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For 5k :shocked:
I could find an excellent mk2, overhaul it better than factory, tax it, insure it and still have enough left over to build you a garage to keep it in...
Reckon you could pick up an excellent one for max 1500... I picked up mine for 800.00 all in, always get people commenting on what a nice car it is, even beeen offered cash in the carpark for it :wink: Leather, BBS, Oak Green :cool:
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Oak green is certainly the most desirable colour :smiley:
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Oak green is certainly the most desirable colour :smiley:
Cheers Bud, As my girlfriend keeps telling me it was a once in a life time deal, actually got it for 300.00 but needed new clutch/ power steering pipes etc for MOT which ran to about 500.00 :rolleyes: but I did haggle 500.00 off the asking price so can't complain :smiley:
Just a few niggly wee things to sort and it'll be perfect
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Oak green is certainly the most desirable colour :smiley:
Cheers Bud, As my girlfriend keeps telling me it was a once in a life time deal, actually got it for 300.00 but needed new clutch/ power steering pipes etc for MOT which ran to about 500.00 :rolleyes: but I did haggle 500.00 off the asking price so can't complain :smiley:
Just a few niggly wee things to sort and it'll be perfect
You lucky bastard :laugh:
I wish i was offered a car like that with those faults. Fairly easy to sort, total bargain :cool:
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Oak green is certainly the most desirable colour :smiley:
Cheers Bud, As my girlfriend keeps telling me it was a once in a life time deal, actually got it for 300.00 but needed new clutch/ power steering pipes etc for MOT which ran to about 500.00 :rolleyes: but I did haggle 500.00 off the asking price so can't complain :smiley:
Just a few niggly wee things to sort and it'll be perfect
You lucky fatherless son :laugh:
I wish i was offered a car like that with those faults. Fairly easy to sort, total bargain :cool:
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Yeah, was a deal, a steal, sale of the F***ing century. Right place time right time. Fortunately for me the guy was emigrating so I pretty much named my price. Been having dirty thoughts about this though
http://carandclassic.com/car/C113586/
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Unless you need a Golf for the practicality, for the money you're talking about, having recently started enjoying a Corrado I would suggest you go try one.
Don't go for the G60 or the VR6, jump into the 16V for the simplicity and lower cost.
£5k should net you a minter and as far as I can make out you'll feel like approximately a million bucks driving down the road..... then you'll find a twisty road and have some fun.
Put some proper management on the motor and it should be a touch more economic, too.
Just remember it's just a Golf2 underneath, but a touch stiffer.
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Unless you need a Golf for the practicality, for the money you're talking about, having recently started enjoying a Corrado I would suggest you go try one.
Don't go for the G60 or the VR6, jump into the 16V for the simplicity and lower cost.
£5k should net you a minter and as far as I can make out you'll feel like approximately a million bucks driving down the road..... then you'll find a twisty road and have some fun.
Put some proper management on the motor and it should be a touch more economic, too.
Just remember it's just a Golf2 underneath, but a touch stiffer.
Happy with it then? I'm slightly disturbed you appear to have got the Corrado smugness already and it's only been 4 days, I thought youd be immune or that it would take at least a month or two to kick in!
nick
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If it were just me I'd be driving round impervious, but t'other half was hogging it earlier in the week and kept coming back saying that everyone looked at it. 'Yeah right!' I thought 'probably cos the exhaust's rattling and knocking' but then I repaired the exhaust and drove it for a couple of days and bu99er me if people don't all stare at it and gawp. I can't remember the last time I got so much attention (and remember I used to have a jacked up 4WD VW camper, with a throaty Subaru motor in the back, so I am kinda familiar with getting a bit of attention).
Then I snapped the bolt in the subframe tonight and I remembered what having elderly VWs was all about.
Still, when that's sorted it'll ride and handle even better and I'll have an even bigger smug-git-grin!!
Can't wait to get the EFi on it.
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Don't go for the G60 or the VR6, jump into the 16V for the simplicity and lower cost.
thats a new one :huh:
you could have a vr6 storm for that budget if a corrado is what you want (or 2 g60's, or 4 16v's :laugh: )
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You are doing exactly what I did back in March this year. Put it this way... I bought the best minter I could find at the time and I've had no regrets (or problems) so far. Best of all she has continued going up in value. :)
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how much is it worth now then? £7k? :grin: :grin:
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how much is it worth now then? £7k? :grin: :grin:
LOL, no, and funnily enough I have not seen that guy since he harassed me to sell! :grin:
I have her insured with an agreed & guaranteed £5k value. :)
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Don't go for the G60 or the VR6, jump into the 16V for the simplicity and lower cost.
thats a new one
You really expected any less from me?
Obviously, for the money the man's got to spend a better choice would be a G60 Syncro Golf from Germany (and a charger rebuild), but that might be a toughie to find.
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I have her insured with an agreed & guaranteed £5k value. :)
Gotta love agreed value insanity ... :grin:
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I have her insured with an agreed & guaranteed £5k value. :)
Gotta love agreed value insanity ... :grin:
Insanity... why?
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Well...I've just taken delivery of an Audi A4 2.0 tdi. But surprise surprise..I'll be keeping the golf.
The Audi surpasses the Golf in most respects...fuel economy..comfort..refinement...toys....safety..etc..
But everybody has an Audi A4 diesel. How many people own a MK2 16v Gti?
I'm afriad that it will be confined to weekend toy status from now on. But boy...what a joy to thrash on the B-roads to Brecon after spending M-F in the Audi motorway cruiser.
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Man, jealous of having a "grown up", commuter.
I've just got down to one car for the first time in years( if you don't count the mk3 donor car sitting out back :smiley:)
but seriously started thinking that my mk2 might not be best suited to the daily commute, what with mk3 diesels going for 400 with t&t
Mind you if I get the heater working, tracking sorted, ISV fixed, new headunit and the mk2'd make a more attractive daily... :grin:
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dont worry about all the things said in this thread, you have an r32 now, so any mk2 is gonna feel a bit poo compared, if you fancy that one in the pistonheads link, just make sure its got reciepts for the work done and service history, and its not rotten of course, then go for it mate, 250+ brake in a mk2 shell will be mental and lots of fun. mine only has 140 on tap and i love it. good luck whatever you do. :wink: