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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: jayboy on 12 October 2009, 11:36

Title: Is a very high mileage Golf GTi with DSG a risky buy?
Post by: jayboy on 12 October 2009, 11:36
Hi

I would be grateful for some advice as I am considering buying a very high mileage 05 plate Golf GTi DSG.

I have seen a 5dr Golf GTI DSG in the spec and colour I want for £9k (though I would only want to pay about £8k), the only problem is is that it has done 115k. It comes with FVWSH, and has had the cam belt and tensioners, and DSG oil change at 90k.

It looks in great condition with only some wear on the outer drivers side seat bolster.

An equivalent model with the spec I want with an average mileage would be around 12k-13k, so the chance to save circa £5k is very appealing. I would only do about 5k a year so the miles wouldn't sky rocket while I kept it for 4-5 years.

Now is this a risky buy at this mileage with the DSG box? Should I risk getting a bargain or add a few more grand to my budget and get a lower mileage model?

Grateful for any views.
Thank you.
Title: Re: Is a very high mileage Golf GTi with DSG a risky buy?
Post by: pridders on 12 October 2009, 12:03
Hmm not too sure to be honest mate, I had a Audi A3 with 80k on the clock when I brought it and ran it for another 70k with no problems at all. That was a 1.8t not sure about the 2.0TFSI with DSG. Dont think it will be a problem with the low mileage you are doing.

I have a 05 GTI, Black, Xenons, DSG, Leather, Parking Sensors etc... 52k miles Full VWSH. £13.5k if you decide not to go for that one :smiley:
Title: Re: Is a very high mileage Golf GTi with DSG a risky buy?
Post by: duffy78 on 12 October 2009, 13:26
the clutches in the dsg box are supposed to last the life of the car, whatever vw deem that to be i do not know.


05, laser blue, 5 door, dsg, 47k, full leather, highline mfd and factory fitted satnav here for 12k  :wink:
Title: Re: Is a very high mileage Golf GTi with DSG a risky buy?
Post by: jv on 12 October 2009, 13:33
how about taking out a warranty on the car with a slice of the savings?

that way you get the car you want at a price you like, plus still loads saved.

you could buy the theoretical 12k car and it still die! :)
Title: Re: Is a very high mileage Golf GTi with DSG a risky buy?
Post by: 2007GTI on 12 October 2009, 13:39
all this worry about DSG boxes failing and theres no evidence if they are looked after.  I would take the change and do what JV says and get a warranty and check its water tight!
Title: Re: Is a very high mileage Golf GTi with DSG a risky buy?
Post by: Ed30DSG on 12 October 2009, 13:50
Not so easy getting a water tight warranty on high mileage cars though. Max mileage is usually around 70k, after that there is a sliding scale that involves the owner part funding either the part or labour element (or sometimes both) to account for wear and tear.
Title: Re: Is a very high mileage Golf GTi with DSG a risky buy?
Post by: jayboy on 12 October 2009, 13:50
Are there any recommendations for where I could get a warranty from that would cover the gearbox?

I am having a comprehensive inspection by the AA done on the car this Thursday, if that comes back positive I think I will take the plunge....with the money saved I could hopefully get a warranty and get the bathroom done!
Title: Re: Is a very high mileage Golf GTi with DSG a risky buy?
Post by: Rhyso on 12 October 2009, 13:53
with the money saved I could hopefully get a warranty and get some modifications done!

corrected that for you  :wink:

can't be wasting your hard earned on home improvements  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Is a very high mileage Golf GTi with DSG a risky buy?
Post by: duffy78 on 12 October 2009, 13:58
all this worry about DSG boxes failing and theres no evidence if they are looked after.  I would take the change and do what JV says and get a warranty and check its water tight!

Wouldnt the full vwsh be the evidence that the box has been looked after?

its pretty hard to mistreat the dsg, it wont let you change down to early. off the top of my head i think there is only over modification and miss use of the launch control that may effect it.
Title: Re: Is a very high mileage Golf GTi with DSG a risky buy?
Post by: JC on 12 October 2009, 14:01
you could buy the theoretical 12k car and it still die! :)

or even buy a brand new mk6 from hell  :laugh:
Title: Re: Is a very high mileage Golf GTi with DSG a risky buy?
Post by: jv on 12 October 2009, 14:09
this lot get mentioned a fair amount on, er, another forum that has dsg car owners:

www.warrantywise.co.uk
Title: Re: Is a very high mileage Golf GTi with DSG a risky buy?
Post by: duffy78 on 12 October 2009, 14:16
good site that for piece of mind.

think i'll be using that in the future.
Title: Re: Is a very high mileage Golf GTi with DSG a risky buy?
Post by: jayboy on 12 October 2009, 14:19
Thanks for all the help and advice so far guys.

Had a look at Warrantywise and was quoted £350 for a warranty....they look pretty good too. Although I couldn't specify if my Golf GTI was auto or manual.
Title: Re: Is a very high mileage Golf GTi with DSG a risky buy?
Post by: jv on 12 October 2009, 15:28
i was looking the other day, only thing i thought was odd was the choice of garage labour rates, guess it just allows more flexibility
Title: Re: Is a very high mileage Golf GTi with DSG a risky buy?
Post by: Jimp on 12 October 2009, 17:16
There was a thread like this over on vwvortex recently. Some people there have mk5s with 150k+ and one guy had 220k  :shocked: Seems that they are alright once you take care of them and keep it serviced regularly.
Title: Re: Is a very high mileage Golf GTi with DSG a risky buy?
Post by: Hurdy on 12 October 2009, 19:55
At 115k miles the car is proven a good one. As long as it has all the necessary work done at the right intervals then there should be no reason that the car isn't as good as a 50k one. :smiley:
Title: Re: Is a very high mileage Golf GTi with DSG a risky buy?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 13 October 2009, 12:24
Are there any recommendations for where I could get a warranty from that would cover the gearbox?

I am having a comprehensive inspection by the AA done on the car this Thursday, if that comes back positive I think I will take the plunge....with the money saved I could hopefully get a warranty and get the bathroom done!

Does not compute . . . . does not compute . . . . does not comp . . . . . .

The 'AA' and 'comprehensive inspection' - especially on a Mk5 GTI with a DSG will probably not be worth the paper its written on.  You'd be far better getting a dedicated VAG independent specialist to inspect the car.  :wink:
Title: Re: Is a very high mileage Golf GTi with DSG a risky buy?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 13 October 2009, 12:30
all this worry about DSG boxes failing and theres no evidence if they are looked after.  I would take the change and do what JV says and get a warranty and check its water tight!

Wouldnt the full vwsh be the evidence that the box has been looked after?

Not really.  Just look at how many posts there are on this forum about VW stealers NOT using LongLife oils (which were mandatory for ALL cars serviced in their workshops from Dec 08), or those stealers using Quantum oils (which are NOT approved for franchised dealer use), or those stealers using semi-synthetic oil in a high performance turbo engine.

And more alarming, there are a number of stealers who are NOT following the correct procedure for the DSG oil change!  :angry:


its pretty hard to mistreat the dsg, it wont let you change down to early. off the top of my head i think there is only over modification and miss use of the launch control that may effect it.

Ohhhh - you certainly can mistreat the DSG!  :shocked:
Title: Re: Is a very high mileage Golf GTi with DSG a risky buy?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 13 October 2009, 12:32
Thanks for all the help and advice so far guys.

Had a look at Warrantywise and was quoted £350 for a warranty....they look pretty good too. Although I couldn't specify if my Golf GTI was auto or manual.

A DSG is always classed as an 'auto'.  :wink:
Title: Re: Is a very high mileage Golf GTi with DSG a risky buy?
Post by: jayboy on 13 October 2009, 14:51
No what I meant was, you could only pick a Golf GTI and couldn't specify whether it was a manual or DSG (auto) version....just struck me as odd as I would have thought the warranty for an auto would have cost more.
Title: Re: Is a very high mileage Golf GTi with DSG a risky buy?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 13 October 2009, 15:23
No what I meant was, you could only pick a Golf GTI and couldn't specify whether it was a manual or DSG (auto) version....just struck me as odd as I would have thought the warranty for an auto would have cost more.

Ahhhhhh, I see. :afro:  Some peeps just seem to get the hump if you try and tell them their beloved DSG is classed as an 'automatic gearbox'!  :laugh: :laugh:

But yes, I would agree with the DSG costing more for any warranty claim.  But maybe they know something we dont.  Maybe the DSG is proving far more reliable than the manual - afterall, manual boxes still need clutch changes (which seem fairly bullet-proof on the DSG), and still have issues with the Dual Mass Flywheels going noisy (I'm not sure if DSGs use a DMF - anyone?).

Or maybe the warranty company just use the DVLA database to tell them the spec of the car?  :undecided: