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Title: Xennon's and coming home lighting function
Post by: neilgcal on 07 September 2009, 22:57
I have the xennons on my mk6 GTI but for some reason when you park up at night the lights switch off when you pull the keys out of the ignition. I have double cheked through the computer and coming home lights are switched on for a 10 second delay and it does not work.

Has anyone noticed this or anyone with xennons have it working okay?

When i unlock the car at night they automatically come on before i get into the car so why it does not work for locking i do not know.
Title: Re: Xennon's and coming home lighting function
Post by: p3asa on 07 September 2009, 23:37
Are you not meant to flash them before switching off.
I'm sure I've read this somewhere as it is different from the MkV
Title: Re: Xennon's and coming home lighting function
Post by: ub7rm on 08 September 2009, 07:38
Silly question but is it dark when you get home?  Just because on the Mk5 if the lights are on because you were driving a bit quick or because the wipers were on constantly then they switch off as soon as you take the key out, they only stay on for a bit if its actually dark.  Sometimes if its twilight mine switch off as soon as you take they key out but other times when its proper dark they stay on for a bit...

Mk6 may of course be different...
Title: Re: Xennon's and coming home lighting function
Post by: R32UK on 08 September 2009, 08:34
Ha ha!! I was just about to post a similar question. Although I dont have the xenons my home coming lights dont seem to work?? :undecided:

I increased the time to 20sec using the mfd and it doesnt work. It is dark (of course :tongue:) and the lights are set to the auto function. Any help would be appreciated :smiley:
Title: Re: Xennon's and coming home lighting function
Post by: gc76 on 08 September 2009, 08:49
Are you not meant to flash them before switching off.
I'm sure I've read this somewhere as it is different from the MkV

You need to flash the lights before leaving the car for the coming home lights to work.  I was baffled with this one as I was expecting it to work the same as my old mk5
Title: Re: Xennon's and coming home lighting function
Post by: R32UK on 08 September 2009, 09:15
Are you not meant to flash them before switching off.
I'm sure I've read this somewhere as it is different from the MkV

You need to flash the lights before leaving the car for the coming home lights to work.  I was baffled with this one as I was expecting it to work the same as my old mk5

Cheers!! will try it tonight and report back. :wink:
Title: Re: Xennon's and coming home lighting function
Post by: matchboy on 08 September 2009, 09:34
i don't need to flash my lights for the coming home lights to stay on.  i pul the key out, get out of the car, walk to my front door and the lights are still on  :cool:
Title: Re: Xennon's and coming home lighting function
Post by: R32UK on 08 September 2009, 09:41
i don't need to flash my lights for the coming home lights to stay on.  i pul the key out, get out of the car, walk to my front door and the lights are still on  :cool:

 :huh:

thanks for errmmmm ..... clearing that up :laugh:
Title: Re: Xennon's and coming home lighting function
Post by: neilgcal on 08 September 2009, 09:46
Silly question but is it dark when you get home?  Just because on the Mk5 if the lights are on because you were driving a bit quick or because the wipers were on constantly then they switch off as soon as you take the key out, they only stay on for a bit if its actually dark.  Sometimes if its twilight mine switch off as soon as you take they key out but other times when its proper dark they stay on for a bit...

Mk6 may of course be different...

Yeah its pitch dark as we dont have street lights or anything where i live. I will give the flash a go tonight and see if it works. Maybe VW have redesigned this so as to save 6 months of going to the supermarket in winter and

"you've left your lights on!"
Title: Re: Xennon's and coming home lighting function
Post by: gc76 on 08 September 2009, 10:02
Silly question but is it dark when you get home?  Just because on the Mk5 if the lights are on because you were driving a bit quick or because the wipers were on constantly then they switch off as soon as you take the key out, they only stay on for a bit if its actually dark.  Sometimes if its twilight mine switch off as soon as you take they key out but other times when its proper dark they stay on for a bit...

Mk6 may of course be different...

Yeah its pitch dark as we dont have street lights or anything where i live. I will give the flash a go tonight and see if it works. Maybe VW have redesigned this so as to save 6 months of going to the supermarket in winter and

"you've left your lights on!"

 :grin: You may be right
Title: Re: Xennon's and coming home lighting function
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 08 September 2009, 15:04
Are you leaving your light switch in the 'auto' position?
Title: Re: Xennon's and coming home lighting function
Post by: R32UK on 08 September 2009, 15:14
yes i just tried in (in broad day light) and it worked. Why should I have to flick my beam everytime?? whats going on???
Title: Re: Xennon's and coming home lighting function
Post by: gizzywizzy on 08 September 2009, 15:16
TT My light switch is on auto which is what my dealer told me to leave it at, and my xenons go out as soon as I take the key out.  What should I switch to, sorry bit dense when it comes to technical issues. lol  :grin:
Title: Re: Xennon's and coming home lighting function
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 08 September 2009, 15:51
TT My light switch is on auto which is what my dealer told me to leave it at, and my xenons go out as soon as I take the key out.  What should I switch to, sorry bit dense when it comes to technical issues. lol  :grin:

Your light switch on the dash, to the right of the steering wheel, under the vent.  From 'left to right' - it should have something like '0', then a picture of a tunnel (like an upside down capital U), then a likkle light symbol (side lights), then big light symbol (dipped headlamps).  Set the switch to the 'tunnel' position - this is the 'auto' position.

Only other thing I can think of is that the time delay for the 'arriving home' (or whatever they now call it) has been set to zero.  You can set different time delays for the arriving home (when you take the keys out and lock the car), to the leaving home (when you unlock the car).

Does this help?
Title: Re: Xennon's and coming home lighting function
Post by: ub7rm on 08 September 2009, 17:35
TT My light switch is on auto which is what my dealer told me to leave it at, and my xenons go out as soon as I take the key out.  What should I switch to, sorry bit dense when it comes to technical issues. lol  :grin:

Your light switch on the dash, to the right of the steering wheel, under the vent.  From 'left to right' - it should have something like '0', then a picture of a tunnel (like an upside down capital U), then a likkle light symbol (side lights), then big light symbol (dipped headlamps).  Set the switch to the 'tunnel' position - this is the 'auto' position.

Only other thing I can think of is that the time delay for the 'arriving home' (or whatever they now call it) has been set to zero.  You can set different time delays for the arriving home (when you take the keys out and lock the car), to the leaving home (when you unlock the car).

Does this help?

On the newer mk5's the light switch says AUTO rather than the strange symbol that the earlier ones had.  I would presume they would carry this sensible advance forward to the mk6?
Title: Re: Xennon's and coming home lighting function
Post by: ub7rm on 08 September 2009, 17:37
Silly question but is it dark when you get home?  Just because on the Mk5 if the lights are on because you were driving a bit quick or because the wipers were on constantly then they switch off as soon as you take the key out, they only stay on for a bit if its actually dark.  Sometimes if its twilight mine switch off as soon as you take they key out but other times when its proper dark they stay on for a bit...

Mk6 may of course be different...

Yeah its pitch dark as we dont have street lights or anything where i live. I will give the flash a go tonight and see if it works. Maybe VW have redesigned this so as to save 6 months of going to the supermarket in winter and

"you've left your lights on!"

 :grin: You may be right

It would be a sensible move, its entertaining the first couple of times.  Bloody annoying after that!
Title: Re: Xennon's and coming home lighting function
Post by: gc76 on 08 September 2009, 18:01
Silly question but is it dark when you get home?  Just because on the Mk5 if the lights are on because you were driving a bit quick or because the wipers were on constantly then they switch off as soon as you take the key out, they only stay on for a bit if its actually dark.  Sometimes if its twilight mine switch off as soon as you take they key out but other times when its proper dark they stay on for a bit...

Mk6 may of course be different...

Yeah its pitch dark as we dont have street lights or anything where i live. I will give the flash a go tonight and see if it works. Maybe VW have redesigned this so as to save 6 months of going to the supermarket in winter and

"you've left your lights on!"

 :grin: You may be right

It would be a sensible move, its entertaining the first couple of times.  Bloody annoying after that!

It does get annoying trying to explain to joe bloggs in the car park that your lights are supposed to do that
Title: Re: Xennon's and coming home lighting function
Post by: gizzywizzy on 08 September 2009, 18:34
Great thanks TT will give it a go once darkness comes, which won't be too far away now as it seems summer has been and gone and autumn has arrived in all its glory. Cheers mate.
Title: Re: Xennon's and coming home lighting function
Post by: R32UK on 08 September 2009, 19:22
Silly question but is it dark when you get home?  Just because on the Mk5 if the lights are on because you were driving a bit quick or because the wipers were on constantly then they switch off as soon as you take the key out, they only stay on for a bit if its actually dark.  Sometimes if its twilight mine switch off as soon as you take they key out but other times when its proper dark they stay on for a bit...

Mk6 may of course be different...

Yeah its pitch dark as we dont have street lights or anything where i live. I will give the flash a go tonight and see if it works. Maybe VW have redesigned this so as to save 6 months of going to the supermarket in winter and

"you've left your lights on!"

 :grin: You may be right

It would be a sensible move, its entertaining the first couple of times.  Bloody annoying after that!

Went home this afternoon, whilst parked on the driveway I checked my settings on the mfd. then flashed my main beam before I got out and the headlights stayed on. As I went into my house the postman came to the door to deliver some mail, and said "think you have left your lights on mate". :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

what are the chances!! broad daylight too :cool:
Title: Re: Xennon's and coming home lighting function
Post by: neilgcal on 08 September 2009, 20:11
Silly question but is it dark when you get home?  Just because on the Mk5 if the lights are on because you were driving a bit quick or because the wipers were on constantly then they switch off as soon as you take the key out, they only stay on for a bit if its actually dark.  Sometimes if its twilight mine switch off as soon as you take they key out but other times when its proper dark they stay on for a bit...

Mk6 may of course be different...

Yeah its pitch dark as we dont have street lights or anything where i live. I will give the flash a go tonight and see if it works. Maybe VW have redesigned this so as to save 6 months of going to the supermarket in winter and

"you've left your lights on!"

 :grin: You may be right

It would be a sensible move, its entertaining the first couple of times.  Bloody annoying after that!

Went home this afternoon, whilst parked on the driveway I checked my settings on the mfd. then flashed my main beam before I got out and the headlights stayed on. As I went into my house the postman came to the door to deliver some mail, and said "think you have left your lights on mate". :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

what are the chances!! broad daylight too :cool:

I just tried this and it still doesn't work. How many times do you flash? once or twice and did you flash by pulling the stalk forward towards you as if flashing or away from you as if you were putting the main beam on? Have you got xennons R32UK?
Title: Re: Xennon's and coming home lighting function
Post by: R32UK on 08 September 2009, 20:28
^ No xenons.. but it was by pulling the stalk towards me. As if to flash some one twice :smiley:
Title: Re: Xennon's and coming home lighting function
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 09 September 2009, 00:09
^ No xenons.. but it was by pulling the stalk towards me. As if to flash some one twice :smiley:

I think this 'manual flash method' might just be a way of over-riding the light sensor.  They should still illuminate, when it's dark, without having to fiddle with anything!  :undecided:
Title: Re: Xennon's and coming home lighting function
Post by: R32UK on 09 September 2009, 07:55
^ No xenons.. but it was by pulling the stalk towards me. As if to flash some one twice :smiley:

I think this 'manual flash method' might just be a way of over-riding the light sensor.  They should still illuminate, when it's dark, without having to fiddle with anything!  :undecided:

Ended up taking the R home last night.. did exactly as it should. Will try the gti again tonight :nerd:
Title: Re: Xennon's and coming home lighting function
Post by: HA54SYM` on 09 September 2009, 08:00
So when you unlock your car when its dark, do the xennons automatically come on then, before you get in the car?

That is one of best features the mk5 has, along with the coming home lights delay too?

Why would they change that?

Dave
Title: Re: Xennon's and coming home lighting function
Post by: neilgcal on 09 September 2009, 09:45
So when you unlock your car when its dark, do the xennons automatically come on then, before you get in the car?

That is one of best features the mk5 has, along with the coming home lights delay too?

Why would they change that?

Dave

My Xenons come on fine when you unlock the car in the dark they just don't stay on when you leave for some reason!
Title: Re: Xennon's and coming home lighting function
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 10 September 2009, 08:36
Bumpy bump!

Any updates on this issue?  If a lot of you are still getting these probs, and you are 100% positive the the specific time delay is correctly set - then it looks like there could be a prob with the Convenience Control Module. :undecided:

Strike whilst the iron is still hot, and all that.  :wink:
Title: Re: Xennon's and coming home lighting function
Post by: R32UK on 10 September 2009, 08:40
I again took the R home last night, but would like to know if anyone has managed to find a fix for this :undecided:


on another note its quite nice having a white gti for daytime use and a black R32 for the evenings :evil:
(i know im a jammy geeet.... wont my pools coupon again yesterday too :laugh:)
Title: Re: Xennon's and coming home lighting function
Post by: p3asa on 10 September 2009, 11:35
Bumpy bump!

Any updates on this issue?  If a lot of you are still getting these probs, and you are 100% positive the the specific time delay is correctly set - then it looks like there could be a prob with the Convenience Control Module. :undecided:

Strike whilst the iron is still hot, and all that.  :wink:

I'm sure they changed this from the Mk5 so that you had to manually to tell the car to leave the lights on when you had finished driving. Something to do with folk fed up with the scenario  "Hey guv you've left your lights on". Now they can have the option of having the lights on or not.
Title: Re: Xennon's and coming home lighting function
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 10 September 2009, 11:44
Bumpy bump!

Any updates on this issue?  If a lot of you are still getting these probs, and you are 100% positive the the specific time delay is correctly set - then it looks like there could be a prob with the Convenience Control Module. :undecided:

Strike whilst the iron is still hot, and all that.  :wink:

I'm sure they changed this from the Mk5 so that you had to manually to tell the car to leave the lights on when you had finished driving. Something to do with folk fed up with the scenario  "Hey guv you've left your lights on". Now they can have the option of having the lights on or not.

OK - maybe you are right - just seems a backwards step if you ask me! :undecided:

Anyway when some clever tw@t tries to tell me I've left my lights on - usually some old geriatric driving some w@nky korean shyte like a Kia Pride, who really should have handed their licence back to the DVLA - I just smugly say to them sommat like "It's a German car - that means it's a clever car - that means they will turn themselves off" !!!! :evil: :evil:
Title: Re: Xennon's and coming home lighting function
Post by: gc76 on 10 September 2009, 12:09
Has anyone bothered to read what it says in the manual???
Title: Re: Xennon's and coming home lighting function
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 10 September 2009, 12:11
Has anyone bothered to read what it says in the manual???

^^ x2 :wink:
Title: Re: Xennon's and coming home lighting function
Post by: rjwojcik on 10 September 2009, 13:24
Has anyone bothered to read what it says in the manual???

^^ x2 :wink:

A ha, that's a RTFM then...   :grin:

Can't read mine as I haven't got my car, yet...
Title: Re: Xennon's and coming home lighting function
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 10 September 2009, 14:22
Has anyone bothered to read what it says in the manual???

^^ x2 :wink:

A ha, that's a RTFM then...   :grin:

Can't read mine as I haven't got my car, yet...

Yup! :wink:

So when is yours arriving?
Title: Re: Xennon's and coming home lighting function
Post by: rjwojcik on 10 September 2009, 14:51
So when is yours arriving?

Thanks for asking HTH, sorry TT.  Apparently, it build week 48, dealer reckons should be with them early Dec.  Long story, but not in blighty over Chrimbo so am planning to get it registered and collected upon my return, Jan 2010. Ooooooo  :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Xennon's and coming home lighting function
Post by: gc76 on 10 September 2009, 16:37
page 65 in the manual if anyone is interested


"The coming home function is activated by switching off the ignition and then briefly activating the headlight flasher...."
Title: Re: Xennon's and coming home lighting function
Post by: rjwojcik on 10 September 2009, 21:50
page 65 in the manual if anyone is interested


"The coming home function is activated by switching off the ignition and then briefly activating the headlight flasher...."

 :nerd:     :wink:
Title: Re: Xennon's and coming home lighting function
Post by: p3asa on 11 September 2009, 07:58
page 65 in the manual if anyone is interested


"The coming home function is activated by switching off the ignition and then briefly activating the headlight flasher...."

Answered in the second post [Why is there no banging your head off a brick wall icon]  :wink:
Title: Re: Xennon's and coming home lighting function
Post by: gizzywizzy on 11 September 2009, 15:16
I tried that last night on mine sitting on the drive.  I duly turned off the ignition and gave one flash and nothing absolute zip!! so I don't know what the answer is.  Once I'm allowed back driving again I'm taking it to the stealers to see if they can sort the problem.
Title: Re: Xennon's and coming home lighting function
Post by: matchboy on 11 September 2009, 17:58
page 65 in the manual if anyone is interested


"The coming home function is activated by switching off the ignition and then briefly activating the headlight flasher...."

correct. i mugged myself off earlier in this thread by saying mine were on when i took the key out.  wrong!  i tried it last night and you take your key out then flash your headlights and they come on.  apologies for the misinformation!
Title: Re: Xennon's and coming home lighting function
Post by: gizzywizzy on 11 September 2009, 18:03
Mine don't!! :angry:
Title: Re: Xennon's and coming home lighting function
Post by: matchboy on 11 September 2009, 18:06
Mine don't!! :angry:

stupid question, but have you 'ticked' the box on the computer screen and set the lights for, say, 10 seconds?
Title: Re: Xennon's and coming home lighting function
Post by: R32UK on 11 September 2009, 18:59
I increased mine to 20sec and it still didnt work. You have to flash the lights twice i believe.

Does this mean they are then activated to stay on permanently??? I only tried the once :undecided:
Title: Re: Xennon's and coming home lighting function
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 11 September 2009, 20:57
Mine don't!! :angry:

Check the actual time they are supposed to be on for - should be in the convenience settings in the MFD
Title: Re: Xennon's and coming home lighting function
Post by: gc76 on 11 September 2009, 21:36
If it doesnt work then go to the dealer.
Title: Re: Xennon's and coming home lighting function
Post by: R32UK on 12 September 2009, 08:08
ok checked all this yesterday. Settings are all correct

Opened the car and the homecome lights came on

Locked the car but the lights didnt stay on :sad:

Talk about taking a simple thing and complicating it :sad:
Title: Re: Xennon's and coming home lighting function
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 12 September 2009, 08:13
ok checked all this yesterday. Settings are all correct

Opened the car and the homecome lights came on

Locked the car but the lights didnt stay on :sad:

Talk about taking a simple thing and complicating it :sad:

And is your lightswitch left in the 'Auto' position?  :undecided:
Title: Re: Xennon's and coming home lighting function
Post by: R32UK on 12 September 2009, 08:28
ok checked all this yesterday. Settings are all correct

Opened the car and the homecome lights came on

Locked the car but the lights didnt stay on :sad:

Talk about taking a simple thing and complicating it :sad:

And is your lightswitch left in the 'Auto' position?  :undecided:

As always :undecided:
Title: Re: Xennon's and coming home lighting function
Post by: R32UK on 12 September 2009, 08:29
And someone pls tell me how to turn off those stupid drls!!!  :sick:

Talk about drawing attention to yourself. (he says in his white gti :laugh:)
Title: Re: Xennon's and coming home lighting function
Post by: Snoopy on 12 September 2009, 09:05
Deactivating the daylight running lights - Page 62 Mk6 manual

Move the turn signal and main beam lever both down and to the rear (left-hand turn signal and headlight flash) at the same time and hold it in this position.

Turn the ignition on for 3 seconds and then switch it off again. The daylight running lights function is deactivated.
Title: Re: Xennon's and coming home lighting function
Post by: R32UK on 12 September 2009, 09:12
Deactivating the daylight running lights - Page 62 Mk6 manual

Move the turn signal and main beam lever both down and to the rear (left-hand turn signal and headlight flash) at the same time and hold it in this position.

Turn the ignition on for 3 seconds and then switch it off again. The daylight running lights function is deactivated.

Cheers Snoopy!! very helpful :smiley:
Title: Re: Xennon's and coming home lighting function
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 12 September 2009, 09:28
And someone pls tell me how to turn off those stupid drls!!!  :sick:

Do you have VAG-COM?  Or are you anywhere near Hurdy (I think he has it)?


Talk about drawing attention to yourself. (he says in his white gti :laugh:)

Where's the pics - you must be the only the only Mk6 owner not to 'get em up'!  :tongue:
Title: Re: Xennon's and coming home lighting function
Post by: R32UK on 12 September 2009, 09:44


Talk about drawing attention to yourself. (he says in his white gti :laugh:)

Where's the pics - you must be the only the only Mk6 owner not to 'get em up'!  :tongue:


 :lipsrsealed: looks like I have been rumbled!! :grin:

Just waiting for a change of wheels, and good go at some polishing/cleaning first. Should hope fully get some up by net week!
Title: Re: Xennon's and coming home lighting function
Post by: Snoopy on 12 September 2009, 11:18
^Thats no excuse  :wink: :grin:
Title: Re: Xennon's and coming home lighting function
Post by: gizzywizzy on 12 September 2009, 12:36
In answer to your questions I've been through the settings and added 20 secs.  I tried it again last night and heh presto I flashed the lights twice pulled the key out of the ignition and nothing!! but then I tried again pulled the key out, opened the door and yeah they came on.  Seems a bit of a complicated way of doing things.  On my old 307 as soon as yo switched off, the lights were on, no problems.  Oh well I guess they call it "progress" :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Xennon's and coming home lighting function
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 12 September 2009, 15:24
I think 'opening the door' is the crucial bit!  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: Xennon's and coming home lighting function
Post by: gizzywizzy on 12 September 2009, 17:16
I think 'opening the door' is the crucial bit!  :lipsrsealed:

Yes I think you are right, but what a funny way of doing it! German idiosyncracy?
Title: Re: Xennon's and coming home lighting function
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 12 September 2009, 18:35
I think 'opening the door' is the crucial bit!  :lipsrsealed:

Yes I think you are right, but what a funny way of doing it! German idiosyncracy?

Well, unless you sleep in your car, I suppose it is quite a common sense way actually! :nerd:
Title: Re: Xennon's and coming home lighting function
Post by: gizzywizzy on 12 September 2009, 21:48
 :smiley:lol :laugh: