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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: R32UK on 04 September 2009, 07:46
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Tis a sad day. Think i just drove the R for the last time before it gets collected later this morning :cry:
Very emotional I have to say, its been an absolute joy to drive over the last 2 years and would put it down as the best all round car I have ever owned (i know i havent actually owned that many). The engine seems to be absolutely bullit proof, as its probably well know to some of you on here I dont like to hang around :lipsrsealed: and often dont have time to wait for formalities such waiting for the oil/engine temp to reach the right level... but the R hasnt put a foot wrong!!
If I had to choose another car to do 30k in... I would chose the R32 at the drop of a hat (as long as someone else picks up the fuel bill :grin:). Im genuinely more sad about seeing this car go that getting a new one! On the way to work this morning i gave it one last blast and that engine is the best sounding sub £30k car you will hear!! simply awsome!
Hope you find a good new home buddy! :cry: :cry:
R32 = :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:
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Sad news letting a car go that you’re happy with. Yes, I was seriously thinking about an R32 too (nice car all round including that sound), but the fuel consumption and road tax hits are now just too high. :sad: And I still can't understand why the government decided to hike up road tax for older cars that people may already have, but that's another story.
Although my requirements are for a car that's enjoyable and entertaining to drive, it also needs to be economical to run and so I'll be joining you soon in a GTI.
Cheers
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Gutted for you mate. The R's are lovely cars. My bro's got one (mk5) that he's thinking of selling now because of buying a house. I'll never forget the day he bought it and came to pick me up from work in it. You're right about the noise - feckin' awesome!
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Sad day... :cry:
Enjoy the MKVI experience, though!
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Hope she finds a good home. You might even see your 'old flame' from time to time! :grin:
But I bet you won't be sad to get rid of her 'drink problem' - you can now cancel your membership to 'VPA'.
V-Power Anonymous! :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
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V-Power Anonymous! :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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I loved my R32 and like you, missed it when it went. As an all-weather car, I thought it was very good!
Having said that, I don't miss the fuel bills or it's weight. Although I had a lot of fun in it, it was a heavy old girl. I also couldn't get my head around the power. It's a 3.2 litre V6 but only produced 247bhp standard. What I found frustrating was that tuning it was expensive and didn't yield the sorts of gains you would get from remapping a GTI.
For this reason, I think you'll enjoy your GTI a lot more! I always felt that my R32 did a lot of things very well but nothing exceptionally and for this reason, if I was buying a VW again, it would be the GTI and not the R32.
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Cheers Chris.. thats helped me along a little. I probably cant see it right now but a couple of months in the GTI and a visit to Revo should help!! :laugh:
Shes still sat outside looking all sad like puppy who knows its going to be put down :embarassed:
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V-Power Anonymous! :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Never bothered with v-power tbh... didnt find it made much difference. but a £80 drop in insurance(inc wheels and remap) only £275 pm (inc vat) as opposed to £420 with the .:R and god only knows how much I will be saving in fuel!!!
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I also couldn't get my head around the power. It's a 3.2 litre V6 but only produced 247bhp standard. What I found frustrating was that tuning it was expensive and didn't yield the sorts of gains you would get from remapping a GTI.
And that is the fundamental problem of the 'VR' engine design.
They are difficult to cool efficiently - especially when pushing up power outputs. And they also suffer from a fundamental design 'flaw' - in that the inlet ports and exhaust ports cross along side each other. This is similar to a 'pre-crossflow' cylinder head design, whereby both inlet and exhaust ports are on the same side of the head. On the VR design (and pre-crossflow), this causes unresolveable issues regarding the hot exhaust gasses heating up the inlet gasses - and vice versa. Hotter inlet air temps reduce the volumetric effieciency, and therefore the combustion efficiency. And the 'cooled' exhaust gasses reduce the effectiveness of the catalytic converter. This is why VR engines not only produce less power than a conventional 'wide angle' vee engine, but also suffer with worse emissions too. :nerd:
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I also couldn't get my head around the power. It's a 3.2 litre V6 but only produced 247bhp standard. What I found frustrating was that tuning it was expensive and didn't yield the sorts of gains you would get from remapping a GTI.
And that is the fundamental problem of the 'VR' engine design.
They are difficult to cool efficiently - especially when pushing up power outputs. And they also suffer from a fundamental design 'flaw' - in that the inlet ports and exhaust ports cross along side each other. This is similar to a 'pre-crossflow' cylinder head design, whereby both inlet and exhaust ports are on the same side of the head. On the VR design (and pre-crossflow), this causes unresolveable issues regarding the hot exhaust gasses heating up the inlet gasses - and vice versa. Hotter inlet air temps reduce the volumetric effieciency, and therefore the combustion efficiency. And the 'cooled' exhaust gasses reduce the effectiveness of the catalytic converter. This is why VR engines not only produce less power than a conventional 'wide angle' vee engine, but also suffer with worse emissions too. :nerd:
F00k me, that's some in depth knowledge :shocked:
Interesting :cool:
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If youre leasing...be careful remapping...... :lipsrsealed:
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I also couldn't get my head around the power. It's a 3.2 litre V6 but only produced 247bhp standard. What I found frustrating was that tuning it was expensive and didn't yield the sorts of gains you would get from remapping a GTI.
And that is the fundamental problem of the 'VR' engine design.
They are difficult to cool efficiently - especially when pushing up power outputs. And they also suffer from a fundamental design 'flaw' - in that the inlet ports and exhaust ports cross along side each other. This is similar to a 'pre-crossflow' cylinder head design, whereby both inlet and exhaust ports are on the same side of the head. On the VR design (and pre-crossflow), this causes unresolveable issues regarding the hot exhaust gasses heating up the inlet gasses - and vice versa. Hotter inlet air temps reduce the volumetric effieciency, and therefore the combustion efficiency. And the 'cooled' exhaust gasses reduce the effectiveness of the catalytic converter. This is why VR engines not only produce less power than a conventional 'wide angle' vee engine, but also suffer with worse emissions too. :nerd:
F00k me, that's some in depth knowledge :shocked:
Interesting :cool:
That is what I am basically about - years and years of professional studying! :wink:
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If youre leasing...be careful remapping...... :lipsrsealed:
Yup! :wink:
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I also couldn't get my head around the power. It's a 3.2 litre V6 but only produced 247bhp standard. What I found frustrating was that tuning it was expensive and didn't yield the sorts of gains you would get from remapping a GTI.
And that is the fundamental problem of the 'VR' engine design.
They are difficult to cool efficiently - especially when pushing up power outputs. And they also suffer from a fundamental design 'flaw' - in that the inlet ports and exhaust ports cross along side each other. This is similar to a 'pre-crossflow' cylinder head design, whereby both inlet and exhaust ports are on the same side of the head. On the VR design (and pre-crossflow), this causes unresolveable issues regarding the hot exhaust gasses heating up the inlet gasses - and vice versa. Hotter inlet air temps reduce the volumetric effieciency, and therefore the combustion efficiency. And the 'cooled' exhaust gasses reduce the effectiveness of the catalytic converter. This is why VR engines not only produce less power than a conventional 'wide angle' vee engine, but also suffer with worse emissions too. :nerd:
F00k me, that's some in depth knowledge :shocked:
Interesting :cool:
That is what I am basically about - years and years of professional studying! :wink:
It's amazing.
I have used and abused threads when talking to my local VW stealer about issues with the car.
Nice one :grin:
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Hope the GTI lives up to the R32 mate!
Have to say i was driving back in the torrential rain on weds night and couldnt understand why anyone would get a GTI over an R32 if they had the choice! Passed a few GTI's, astra vxr's, mini cooper s's and all of them had to drive slowly because of fwd. I just hammered on home with the fast lane all to my self and no power restrictions and the amazing noise behind me! Was a similar story in the dry before the rain hit as well. Followed a VXR on the way down in the dry (nothing in it) then it rained, out of no where...very hard! He had to move over as he lost all his power being unable to use it. I carried on as normal :laugh:
Im doing everything i can to not have to sell it at the moment, im not sure anything under £30k new can match it as an all round car!
Look forward to hearing some long term reviews on the GTI mate, im sure it will be superb as its a brilliant car; not sure it will ever fill the void the 32 is going to leave, irrelevant of the few quid a week you save on fuel :wink:
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Well strangely enough... no one turned up to collect the .:R :laugh:
So now I have both parked outside work and get to chose which one I take home!! :grin:
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Take the GTI so you can hear the 32 from outside! :evil:
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Take the GTI so you can hear the 32 from outside! :evil:
Done that already! opened drivers door, slid my ass in, started her up and then slammed her to 6k revs :laugh: oooh the popping n rumbling :evil:
Gti sounds alot better than I found the mk5.. but lets face it, its a tad diesel like on startup and anything less than full chat!
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Reading this has made me think that it's a bit like that perfect foreign girlfriend who eventually had to leave to go back home overseas - You will always have very fond memories - Better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all.
You've driven a R32 for over 30k miles and loved doing so - No-one can take that away from you.
1,000 miles into your new Mk6 GTI you'll find new things to love.
As the song by Stephen Stills says: "Love the one you're with" - Showing my age going back to the hippie days of Woodstock.
Have Fun but Safe Journeys,
:afro: Robin
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Not fancy the rocco then? Or is it mkvi gti? You'd get a pretty good 911 for £30k...
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Not fancy the rocco then? Or is it mkvi gti? You'd get a pretty good 911 for £30k...
not new and leased you wouldnt, and don't forget if chipping it then you could always go for the one that enables you to return it to standard and "hides" the remap from dealers etc.
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Not fancy the rocco then? Or is it mkvi gti? You'd get a pretty good 911 for £30k...
not new and leased you wouldnt, and don't forget if chipping it then you could always go for the one that enables you to return it to standard and "hides" the remap
from dealers etc.
true.... Though plenty roccos leasable.... When is the superdooper one out? I'd get a banger for a few months and wait....
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Not fancy the rocco then? Or is it mkvi gti? You'd get a pretty good 911 for £30k...
not new and leased you wouldnt, and don't forget if chipping it then you could always go for the one that enables you to return it to standard and "hides" the remap from dealers etc.
Ermmm . . . . . NOTHING is hidden from the stealers! Even with Bluefin or Revo with SPS, or any of the others, the stealer will STILL know it has been remaped! :rolleyes:
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Not fancy the rocco then? Or is it mkvi gti? You'd get a pretty good 911 for £30k...
not new and leased you wouldnt, and don't forget if chipping it then you could always go for the one that enables you to return it to standard and "hides" the remap
from dealers etc.
true.... Though plenty roccos leasable.... When is the superdooper one out? I'd get a banger for a few months and wait....
But what would SWMBO say to that? :wink: :evil: :evil:
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Tried the rocco..
great to look, drove well, but it was let down by poor visibility, less practicality than the golf, interior too similar to mk5, and some little niggling issues that I just couldnt live with.
there were some great deals on lease.. but i think i got an even better one on the golf :wink:
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Not fancy the rocco then? Or is it mkvi gti? You'd get a pretty good 911 for £30k...
not new and leased you wouldnt, and don't forget if chipping it then you could always go for the one that enables you to return it to standard and "hides" the remap from dealers etc.
Ermmm . . . . . NOTHING is hidden from the stealers! Even with Bluefin or Revo with SPS, or any of the others, the stealer will STILL know it has been remaped! :rolleyes:
weren't meaning that it would be totally hidden, but it wouldn't be immediate...they'd have to have a reason to be looking for it is what i meant, as the car would drive and respond electronically as normal, only if they were doing a full diagnostic would it show up. i also suspect you could have a few of the chip remap companies for lying about the stealth of these if it isnt the case. :wink:
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all depends on skills possesed by various people.
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My insurance company knows about it.. so im ok on that front :wink:
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There was a saluatory tale in here last year I think where the dude mapped his lease car.... It went tits up somehow, he was left with no car and a bill for the replacement... Can't remember the facts but it's on here somewhere...was a total mare for the guy.
Just be aware of the risks when you go remapping someone elses car...
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Not fancy the rocco then? Or is it mkvi gti? You'd get a pretty good 911 for £30k...
not new and leased you wouldnt, and don't forget if chipping it then you could always go for the one that enables you to return it to standard and "hides" the remap from dealers etc.
Ermmm . . . . . NOTHING is hidden from the stealers! Even with Bluefin or Revo with SPS, or any of the others, the stealer will STILL know it has been remaped! :rolleyes:
weren't meaning that it would be totally hidden, but it wouldn't be immediate...
What is your definition of 'immediate'? Because the moment the stealer connects their VAS5051 or 5052, and scans for fault codes - it will be as clear as daylight that the car has been remaped! :rolleyes:
they'd have to have a reason to be looking for it is what i meant,
The reason is that the car is in the stealers for work! :rolleyes:
as the car would drive and respond electronically as normal, only if they were doing a full diagnostic would it show up.
Erm . . . they do a 'full diagnostic' on every service. And also every time it goes in for warranty issues (which are likely to store a fault code).
You really are greatly mis-informed if you think the stealer won't know about a remap!
i also suspect you could have a few of the chip remap companies for lying about the stealth of these if it isnt the case. :wink:
Erm . . . I have NEVER stated anything about how the stealers can work out WHO has applied WHICH remap. But the stealers do NOT need to know which map has been applied. They just need to know that the original VWAG map is no longer on the chip - and will therefore know that the car's ECU has been flashed with another map. VW Germany will know EXACTLY how many times the ECU has officially been flashed - and if there are discrepancies between VW Germany, and your own ECU - then it is 'Goodnight Nurse' to any warranty on your engine!
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all depends on skills possesed by various people.
Agreed - but the 'usual suspects' of purveyors of remaps don't have those skills! :lipsrsealed:
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There was a saluatory tale in here last year I think where the dude mapped his lease car.... It went tits up somehow, he was left with no car and a bill for the replacement... Can't remember the facts but it's on here somewhere...was a total mare for the guy.
Just be aware of the risks when you go remapping someone elses car...
Yeah, it was someone who had a Seat Leon Cupra - over on one of the Seat forums.
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Tis the reason I will be using a reputable company like revo :nerd:
So in reality nothing should be going wrong.. but hence my reason for leaving it for a couple of 1000 miles first.
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Tis the reason I will be using a reputable company like revo :nerd:
But even Revo leave a 'footprint', which is detectable by the stealer and VW Germany. :nerd:
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Tis the reason I will be using a reputable company like revo :nerd:
But even Revo leave a 'footprint', which is detectable by the stealer and VW Germany. :nerd:
Dont think the dealer i will be taking it to is the same as the dealer I got it from :wink:
Also i know what happens to the cars when they go back now :nerd: :smug:
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I also couldn't get my head around the power. It's a 3.2 litre V6 but only produced 247bhp standard. What I found frustrating was that tuning it was expensive and didn't yield the sorts of gains you would get from remapping a GTI.
And that is the fundamental problem of the 'VR' engine design.
They are difficult to cool efficiently - especially when pushing up power outputs. And they also suffer from a fundamental design 'flaw' - in that the inlet ports and exhaust ports cross along side each other. This is similar to a 'pre-crossflow' cylinder head design, whereby both inlet and exhaust ports are on the same side of the head. On the VR design (and pre-crossflow), this causes unresolveable issues regarding the hot exhaust gasses heating up the inlet gasses - and vice versa. Hotter inlet air temps reduce the volumetric effieciency, and therefore the combustion efficiency. And the 'cooled' exhaust gasses reduce the effectiveness of the catalytic converter. This is why VR engines not only produce less power than a conventional 'wide angle' vee engine, but also suffer with worse emissions too. :nerd:
F00k me, that's some in depth knowledge :shocked:
Interesting :cool:
That is what I am basically about - years and years of professional studying! :wink:
reads suspiciously like the wikipedia article if you ask me, unless your wink is acknowledging that fact
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I also couldn't get my head around the power. It's a 3.2 litre V6 but only produced 247bhp standard. What I found frustrating was that tuning it was expensive and didn't yield the sorts of gains you would get from remapping a GTI.
And that is the fundamental problem of the 'VR' engine design.
They are difficult to cool efficiently - especially when pushing up power outputs. And they also suffer from a fundamental design 'flaw' - in that the inlet ports and exhaust ports cross along side each other. This is similar to a 'pre-crossflow' cylinder head design, whereby both inlet and exhaust ports are on the same side of the head. On the VR design (and pre-crossflow), this causes unresolveable issues regarding the hot exhaust gasses heating up the inlet gasses - and vice versa. Hotter inlet air temps reduce the volumetric effieciency, and therefore the combustion efficiency. And the 'cooled' exhaust gasses reduce the effectiveness of the catalytic converter. This is why VR engines not only produce less power than a conventional 'wide angle' vee engine, but also suffer with worse emissions too. :nerd:
F00k me, that's some in depth knowledge :shocked:
Interesting :cool:
That is what I am basically about - years and years of professional studying! :wink:
reads suspiciously like the wikipedia article if you ask me, unless your wink is acknowledging that fact
T_T actually writes a few of the wiki articles :wink: :grin:
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Have to say i was driving back in the torrential rain on weds night and couldnt understand why anyone would get a GTI over an R32
It doesnt rain 24/7 365 days a year. Thats why I didnt buy an R32.
Yes we may live in the UK which does get a considerable amount of rain. But there are still plenty of dry days where the ED30 can be enjoyed (even with the TC off).
And also, because loosing traction is sometimes fun (reminds me of me RWD days).
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You will always have very fond memories. You've driven a R32 for over 30k miles and loved doing so - No-one can take that away from you. Better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all.
Couldn't have put it better. I think I'll shed a tear when mine eventually goes. GL with the Mk6 chap, hope you enjoy it as much as the .:R. :wink:
PS. Pazz, nice to see someone using my artwork :smug:
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Tis the reason I will be using a reputable company like revo :nerd:
But even Revo leave a 'footprint', which is detectable by the stealer and VW Germany. :nerd:
Dont think the dealer i will be taking it to is the same as the dealer I got it from :wink:
Doesn't matter. ANY dealer - VW, Audi, Seat, Skoda - will all use the same VAS machine, and they will see the flash counter. And all dealers VAS machines are connected directly to the main database in Wolfsburg.
Just be careful, mate, that's all. :smiley:
Also i know what happens to the cars when they go back now :nerd: :smug:
Huh, explain?
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I also couldn't get my head around the power. It's a 3.2 litre V6 but only produced 247bhp standard. What I found frustrating was that tuning it was expensive and didn't yield the sorts of gains you would get from remapping a GTI.
And that is the fundamental problem of the 'VR' engine design.
They are difficult to cool efficiently - especially when pushing up power outputs. And they also suffer from a fundamental design 'flaw' - in that the inlet ports and exhaust ports cross along side each other. This is similar to a 'pre-crossflow' cylinder head design, whereby both inlet and exhaust ports are on the same side of the head. On the VR design (and pre-crossflow), this causes unresolveable issues regarding the hot exhaust gasses heating up the inlet gasses - and vice versa. Hotter inlet air temps reduce the volumetric effieciency, and therefore the combustion efficiency. And the 'cooled' exhaust gasses reduce the effectiveness of the catalytic converter. This is why VR engines not only produce less power than a conventional 'wide angle' vee engine, but also suffer with worse emissions too. :nerd:
F00k me, that's some in depth knowledge :shocked:
Interesting :cool:
That is what I am basically about - years and years of professional studying! :wink:
reads suspiciously like the wikipedia article if you ask me, unless your wink is acknowledging that fact
Cheeky fcuker! I got my qualis long before arsepedia was even invented - and I said PROFESSIONAL - which usually means formally examined! :rolleyes:
But I did write the Wiki article on DSG. :wink:
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I also couldn't get my head around the power. It's a 3.2 litre V6 but only produced 247bhp standard. What I found frustrating was that tuning it was expensive and didn't yield the sorts of gains you would get from remapping a GTI.
And that is the fundamental problem of the 'VR' engine design.
They are difficult to cool efficiently - especially when pushing up power outputs. And they also suffer from a fundamental design 'flaw' - in that the inlet ports and exhaust ports cross along side each other. This is similar to a 'pre-crossflow' cylinder head design, whereby both inlet and exhaust ports are on the same side of the head. On the VR design (and pre-crossflow), this causes unresolveable issues regarding the hot exhaust gasses heating up the inlet gasses - and vice versa. Hotter inlet air temps reduce the volumetric effieciency, and therefore the combustion efficiency. And the 'cooled' exhaust gasses reduce the effectiveness of the catalytic converter. This is why VR engines not only produce less power than a conventional 'wide angle' vee engine, but also suffer with worse emissions too. :nerd:
F00k me, that's some in depth knowledge :shocked:
Interesting :cool:
That is what I am basically about - years and years of professional studying! :wink:
reads suspiciously like the wikipedia article if you ask me, unless your wink is acknowledging that fact
T_T actually writes a few of the wiki articles :wink: :grin:
How do you know that? :undecided: :huh:
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I also couldn't get my head around the power. It's a 3.2 litre V6 but only produced 247bhp standard. What I found frustrating was that tuning it was expensive and didn't yield the sorts of gains you would get from remapping a GTI.
And that is the fundamental problem of the 'VR' engine design.
They are difficult to cool efficiently - especially when pushing up power outputs. And they also suffer from a fundamental design 'flaw' - in that the inlet ports and exhaust ports cross along side each other. This is similar to a 'pre-crossflow' cylinder head design, whereby both inlet and exhaust ports are on the same side of the head. On the VR design (and pre-crossflow), this causes unresolveable issues regarding the hot exhaust gasses heating up the inlet gasses - and vice versa. Hotter inlet air temps reduce the volumetric effieciency, and therefore the combustion efficiency. And the 'cooled' exhaust gasses reduce the effectiveness of the catalytic converter. This is why VR engines not only produce less power than a conventional 'wide angle' vee engine, but also suffer with worse emissions too. :nerd:
F00k me, that's some in depth knowledge :shocked:
Interesting :cool:
That is what I am basically about - years and years of professional studying! :wink:
reads suspiciously like the wikipedia article if you ask me, unless your wink is acknowledging that fact
T_T actually writes a few of the wiki articles :wink: :grin:
How do you know that? :undecided: :huh:
More of an ass-umption :smiley: I knew you wote the dsg article so thought you may have written a few more :wink:
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Also i know what happens to the cars when they go back now :nerd: :smug:
Huh, explain?
At the end of the lease an independent bca vehicle inspector comes to check over the car. Then (when they can be bothered :rolleyes:) they come and collect the car. It then goes round the block :smiley:
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end of my lease with audi for a god awful A6 was a mare,.....(worst automotive mistake EVER that car).
1 tiny scuff on an alloy, a scuff under the front splitter (where you would NEVER see it) they then tried to stuff me for about a grand!
I told them to stick it since I knew a the work was not done on the car (it went to a local auction the very next day).
We eventually reached an agreement when a credit collection agency hassled me for months, i paid £150 which actually had I the inclination would have reported them to the vat man for since they were claiming vat on work that wasnt done! total screw over...still, it didnt really put me off leasing just sh!te audi's (not the good ones).
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You do have to be careful as alot of them try to stitch you... but as this is the second car I have had from VW the inspector was ok. He did note the thickness of the paint where I had the repair done (but was VW repaired) so that was ok. Also had 2 of the wheels re-done and a dent taken out. Apart from that the car was mint anyway :cool:
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Also i know what happens to the cars when they go back now :nerd: :smug:
Huh, explain?
At the end of the lease an independent bca vehicle inspector comes to check over the car. Then (when they can be bothered :rolleyes:) they come and collect the car. It then goes round the block :smiley:
Do you know if they plug anything into the OBD port?
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But I did write the Wiki article on DSG. :wink:
But there are nowhere near enough quotations on that page for it to be your work :lipsrsealed:
:tongue:
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But I did write the Wiki article on DSG. :wink:
But there are nowhere near enough quotations on that page for it to be your work :lipsrsealed:
:tongue:
Huh? :huh:
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You do have to be careful as alot of them try to stitch you... but as this is the second car I have had from VW the inspector was ok. He did note the thickness of the paint where I had the repair done (but was VW repaired) so that was ok. Also had 2 of the wheels re-done and a dent taken out. Apart from that the car was mint anyway :cool:
Out of interest and apologies if you have posted this somewhere before, but how much could you of had the car for from the lease company?
I am looking at getting a Mk5 R32 next year and as prices have risen for them just wondered if the lease companies had followed suit...
Yours on a forecourt I would expect to be in the £18k - £20k bracket roughly with 30k ish miles....
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You do have to be careful as alot of them try to stitch you... but as this is the second car I have had from VW the inspector was ok. He did note the thickness of the paint where I had the repair done (but was VW repaired) so that was ok. Also had 2 of the wheels re-done and a dent taken out. Apart from that the car was mint anyway :cool:
Out of interest and apologies if you have posted this somewhere before, but how much could you of had the car for from the lease company?
I am looking at getting a Mk5 R32 next year and as prices have risen for them just wondered if the lease companies had followed suit...
Yours on a forecourt I would expect to be in the £18k - £20k bracket roughly with 30k ish miles....
Think they quoted me just under 18k but this was back in july. Had prices continued the way they had towards the end of last year, I was expecting to pick it up for £12.5k :shocked:
I would normally have bought it from them and sold it on, however this time the prices just seem a little tempramental to take a gamble on. Great car, and I would have one again at the drop of a hat! :wink:
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Pretty much bang on with the money then... I think you probably could of had it for around the £14k mark if the prices had kept going like they were. End of last year my local dealer was selling two brand new R32's for £22k and they were specced with leather and met paint so not standard spec. I think one of them was DSG... I bet who ever bought those cars is laughing now as they were depriciation free at that money!
I will get one next year. Am hoping to get a 07 car with DSG and leather for about £15k with 40k miles on it. Once the R20T or whatever they call it comes out, the prices should slide a bit again.
It's good to know they are good cars and that you enjoyed yours. Good luck with the Mk6 :wink:
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Just been collected :cry: :cry: :cry:
Sounded seriously sexy as it flew off down the road burbbling and growling.... you will be missed! :embarassed:
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I feel for you man.
Hope the GTI gives you something different to enjoy over time.
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I feel for you man.
Hope the GTI gives you something different to enjoy over time.
Either way I will be getting another one sometime soon (with turbo :evil:)!!
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I feel for you man.
Hope the GTI gives you something different to enjoy over time.
Either way I will be getting another one sometime soon (with turbo :evil:)!!
JNU was never yours in the first place.
Get over it man and enjoy your Mk6.
(Update the sig, that's some other blokes drive now)
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I feel for you man.
Hope the GTI gives you something different to enjoy over time.
Either way I will be getting another one sometime soon (with turbo :evil:)!!
JNU was never yours in the first place.
Get over it man and enjoy your Mk6.
(Update the sig, that's some other blokes drive now)
I will change my sig when you change you name to "Hairy C0ck" as you should be called.
p.s. I was the registered keeper and paid for it thx :wink:
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A common misunderstanding.
The registered keeper may or may not be the owner. They are two different things.
The mods don't allow name changes.
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Egbert, sorry, Hairy have you ever thought of getting your schizophrenia checked out?
Your bizarre behaviour and social disfunction appears to be worsening. :laugh:
R32UK - sorry for your loss mate!! :cry:
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A common misunderstanding.
The registered keeper may or may not be the owner. They are two different things.
The mods don't allow name changes.
Would you let someone else be the registered keeper of your car unless they paid for it?? No didnt think so. If you pay for something its yours.. until you agree to give it back.
Why dont you try not paying for your road tax the next time its up for renewal. Im sure your local council will be happy to lift your car for you... despite your silly name on the v5. :rolleyes:
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A leased car is owned by the leasing company.
They just rent out the car to you.
It is never yours (unless they sell it to you at the end of the lease).
The registered keeper is the poor sap that pays the road tax and speeding fines.
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A leased car is owned by the leasing company.
They just rent out the car to you.
It is never yours (unless they sell it to you at the end of the lease).
The registered keeper is the poor sap that pays the road tax and speeding fines.
Yep.
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A leased car is owned by the leasing company.
They just rent out the car to you.
It is never yours (unless they sell it to you at the end of the lease).
The registered keeper is the poor sap that pays the road tax and speeding fines.
It is true, my works van is a lease vehical, you dont own it unless youve payed the full or outstanding balance.
Same applys as your morgage on your bricks n mortar, its not yours, the bank-building society own the origonal deeds untill balance is payed.
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A leased car is owned by the leasing company.
They just rent out the car to you.
It is never yours (unless they sell it to you at the end of the lease).
The registered keeper is the poor sap that pays the road tax and speeding fines.
Incorrect. I dont pay the road tax and I dont get speeding fines.
the same could be true of anything you buy on finance. The shopping you did last week on your credit card could be classed as the same. Only difference is, that I am not committed to buying me car at the end of the lease. Whilst I am paying for it, the car is essentially mine.
If what you say is true.. then even when they sell it to me at the end of the lease, i could whack it on a credit card and the car still wont be mine.
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A leased car is owned by the leasing company.
They just rent out the car to you.
It is never yours (unless they sell it to you at the end of the lease).
The registered keeper is the poor sap that pays the road tax and speeding fines.
Incorrect. I dont pay the road tax and I dont get speeding fines.
the same could be true of anything you buy on finance. The shopping you did last week on your credit card could be classed as the same. Only difference is, that I am not committed to buying me car at the end of the lease. Whilst I am paying for it, the car is essentially mine.
If what you say is true.. then even when they sell it to me at the end of the lease, i could whack it on a credit card and the car still wont be mine.
what kind of lease did / do you have then? :huh:
all our works vans are leased but we still have to pay road tax and as one of them found out last week, speeding fines too.
If what you say is true then technically you could drive everywhere over the speed limit and never get a fine :undecided:
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^ re: speeding. I just meant that I dont get done for speeding as i dont speed :lipsrsealed:
re: road tax. I never paid it as that is paid by VW. :smiley:
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^ re: speeding. I just meant that I dont get done for speeding as i dont speed :lipsrsealed:
re: road tax. I never paid it as that is paid by VW. :smiley:
you'd fine then if you did get caught speeding that you'd be hit with the fine and most likely an admin charge from the leasing company
was that part of your deal??
If so then you don't own the car and if you missed so many payments it would be taken away :sad:
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^ re: speeding. I just meant that I dont get done for speeding as i dont speed :lipsrsealed:
re: road tax. I never paid it as that is paid by VW. :smiley:
you'd fine then if you did get caught speeding that you'd be hit with the fine and most likely an admin charge from the leasing company
was that part of your deal??
If so then you don't own the car and if you missed so many payments it would be taken away :sad:
No admin charges.
But yes like I states above its no different from anything you have on credit. if you miss you mortgage payments they take your house from you.
Its the same with a lease car.... Its your car whilst you are paying for it.
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Credit cards are unsecured lending, anything leased is usually secured on the item you decide to lease, meaning they retain the rights of ownership and can therefore take it back if it all goes pete tong :cry:
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No admin charges.
But yes like I states above its no different from anything you have on credit. if you miss you mortgage payments they take your house from you.
Its the same with a lease car.... Its your car whilst you are paying for it.
clue is in the title 'keeper' - you are the keeper of the car NOT the owner
with a mortgage you own the property and have placed it up as security against the loan (which you used to buy the property) in order to take possession of your home the mortgage company have to get a court order, they do not get it as of right!
the legal definition of a lease ( car, flat, house or whatever) is quiet possession for x amount of years. quiet possession is normal use not interrupted by the legal owner, x years being the length of the lease :nerd:
You had it on loan nothing more :sad:
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A fool and his money are soon parted.
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A fool and his money are soon parted.
If thats directed at me you have no idea :smug:. You cant even keep hold of your own dog.
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So getting back to the thread topic.... It must of been a shame to see the black V6 beast be driven away. RIP :wink:
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does RIP stand for Race In Peace? :evil: :grin: :grin:
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So getting back to the thread topic.... It must of been a shame to see the black V6 beast be driven away. RIP :wink:
Was collected by an elderly gent... which I thought would mean he would coast away. He got it rev'd it to 4k and blasted off down the road... a worthy send off :evil:
Now I realise why that car turned so many heads, not often I got to experience being a bystander :undecided:
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does RIP stand for Race In Peace? :evil: :grin: :grin:
:evil: :evil: :evil: no doubt :wink:
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Must admit, there was an R32 next to me at the traffic lights last night. Had to turn the radio down and wind my window down to listen to it burble away. Lovely, jubbly.
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Just been collected :cry: :cry: :cry:
Sounded seriously sexy as it flew off down the road burbbling and growling.... you will be missed! :embarassed:
Got no excuse now for not updating your sig pic! :tongue: :tongue:
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Just been collected :cry: :cry: :cry:
Sounded seriously sexy as it flew off down the road burbbling and growling.... you will be missed! :embarassed:
Got no excuse now for not updating your sig pic! :tongue: :tongue:
Very true.. although she's covered in dead insects at the moment. So first opportunity this week, a clean and some pics :smiley:
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As a potential Golf R buyer can I ask why you went for a standard GTI after the R32?
Is the 4WD not needed (as in the Golf R)?
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Lease car, he had to change :wink:
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Lease car, he had to change :wink:
That's a shame. :cry:
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Lease car, he had to change :wink:
That's a shame. :cry:
It is. the only benifit is better mpg and nicer interior... :undecided:
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Hi Gilly it was nice to meet you the other day, your golf looks awesome bud. Hope every thing is working has it should now? thanks for the beer :grin:
Darren
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Hi Gilly it was nice to meet you the other day, your golf looks awesome bud. Hope every thing is working has it should now? thanks for the beer :grin:
Darren
No probs pal! Yes everything is working spot on.. thanks for taking time out to see me. Will get back to you on the wheels this week hopefully :wink:
p.s. Keep me posted on the new disk :smiley:
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Soon has the cams are sorted ill let you know bud, cheers
Darren