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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: Ivor Mk4 Turbo on 03 August 2009, 13:58
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The item in question:- http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/UNIVERSAL-CARBON-FIBRE-INDUCTION-KIT-AIR-FILTER-HOSE_W0QQitemZ260364931681QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item3c9ef59261&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
Some of you seem interested in how I've put this on, so I've started this thread for your perusal. :afro:
I've found this IK to be surprisingly good & haven't suffered from any heatsoak issues, as of yet. (What heat............... It's pi55ing down every day, I hear you say!!! :D) So far, it seems a bit of a bargain for about £45, if you ask me. :)
The only problem I had with it, was that it came with 3 x 3" jubilee type clips, but one of them is too big for the 'rubber reducer-to-MAF' connection. (Easily solved by a trip to your local DIY/Car Spares/VW dealer etc. to get a smaller jubilee clip).
You will see that I've wrapped some bubble wrap around the bracket (along with some hideous red insulation tape, which will get swapped soon) to stop the IAM cable chafing on the metal of the bracket. This bracket is quite long, but if you follow the angle I've used, you should just get it in there. Please also note, that I've shoved the end of the bolt from the clip in the 2nd picture (this clamps the ducting), through the last hole of the bracket to stop it potentially slipping off. (The clip isn't that tight, but don't worry, it's not going anywhere). ;)
If you've got any questions, or if you'd like any more pictures, then please don't hesitate to ask. :)
(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e345/ivormk4/Golf%20GTi%20Turbo/Engine%20Bay/eBayCarbonIK.jpg)
(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e345/ivormk4/Golf%20GTi%20Turbo/Engine%20Bay/eBayCarbonIK2.jpg)
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Cheers Ivor :wink: :wink:
Will need to sort me a breather filter as well, but think I'm gonna give it a go :smiley:
UPDATE: have just ordered kit, does anyone know how big breather filter is in mm??
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Can anyone shed any light on breather filter size required peeps............
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I don't know the exact size, but Halfords sell a Pipercross & Ripspeed breather filter for £20 & ~£16-17 respectively. Perhaps you could measure your hose, then go down to Halfrauds & see if you can measure them/read diameters on the pack etc. :afro:
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nice work ivor :afro: looks spot on especially for the money :wink:
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There is something bugging me about these induction kits perhaps you can explain. I see from your pics that the input goes into the centre of the filter and the output also comes out of the centre of the filter, the outside of the filter has c/fibre wrapped round it. Can you explain how the air gets filtered?
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its just a cone air filter wrapped in plastic! :wink:
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There is something bugging me about these induction kits perhaps you can explain. I see from your pics that the input goes into the centre of the filter and the output also comes out of the centre of the filter, the outside of the filter has c/fibre wrapped round it. Can you explain how the air gets filtered?
Via the filter inside the carbon cylinder!! :D :afro:
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its just a cone air filter wrapped in plastic! :wink:
You got it! ;)
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nice work ivor :afro: looks spot on especially for the money :wink:
Thanks, Matt. :)
It's pretty good, TBH. :o :D
Worked even better when I span it around 180 degrees, though - Not sure why! :undecided:
Perhaps I should get to the R-Tech RR to see if it's lossed/gained any bhp!! :P
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so what way round have you got the filter?
have you got the open end of the filter cone pointing towards or away from the MAF?
cheers!
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Not quite sure what you mean by the open end, but IIRC, the end with the black rubber/plastic rounded bit in the centre, is now facing the MAF. :afro:
Really could do with a picture here, but I can't be ringed to take the filter back off!! :D
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Always thought the pointy top of the filter for want of a better way of putting it would be facing away from MAF :undecided:
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Always thought the pointy top of the filter for want of a better way of putting it would be facing away from MAF :undecided:
That's exactly what I thought, so that's the way I fitted it to start with, but me & my mate were looking at his R32 BMC one day, & that looked like it was 'reversed' inside, so I thought I'd try it with mine. It seemed to pull more sharply & 'cleaner' with the 'small' end facing the MAF, so I've left it that way for now. :afro:
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Perhaps I should get to the R-Tech RR to see if it's lossed/gained any bhp!! :P
you busy tomorrow?
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Perhaps I should get to the R-Tech RR to see if it's lossed/gained any bhp!! :P
you busy tomorrow?
Free in the AM! ;)
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There you go then.. bring your old graph with you if you still have it. Don't think you've been down since they moved into the new unit? It's a lot easier to find!
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There you go then.. bring your old graph with you if you still have it. Don't think you've been down since they moved into the new unit? It's a lot easier to find!
No, not been to the new place - Been meaning to pop down for a while, now, to get the old Custom Code map back on (purely for comparison purposes - Nowt wrong with the R-Tech Spec 2, BTW)! Would that be an option after the RR on Nick's map? :P
p.s. Just hope there's no grumpy old man giving me grief about parking this time, lol!! :D
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p.p.s. Do you know if there are any Mk4 R32 Pipercross panel filters in stock, please? Could pick one up for my mate if you had. ;)
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haha no no.. plenty of parking available
not sure about the cc map, see what time is available i suppose.
don't recall seeing any filters in the cabinet today, i'm sure Nick can sort something for you though!
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haha no no.. plenty of parking available
not sure about the cc map, see what time is available i suppose.
don't recall seeing any filters in the cabinet today, i'm sure Nick can sort something for you though!
No problem - Thanks for getting me in! :afro:
I take it you're working there at the moment??
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Ooh, what time, then??
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Always thought the pointy top of the filter for want of a better way of putting it would be facing away from MAF :undecided:
That's exactly what I thought, so that's the way I fitted it to start with, but me & my mate were looking at his R32 BMC one day, & that looked like it was 'reversed' inside, so I thought I'd try it with mine. It seemed to pull more sharply & 'cleaner' with the 'small' end facing the MAF, so I've left it that way for now. :afro:
Will try mine the opposite way then as well I think :wink:
Very interested to see your rr session tomorrow as well......... :huh:
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working? i believe the appropriate term is "loitering" :grin:
There are 2 ED30's coming down at 9am.. so aim for then if you want to watch/get in the queue, or 10am-ish if you want to be on/off as quick as poss
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working? i believe the appropriate term is "loitering" :grin:
Good work if you can get it! :P :D
There are 2 ED30's coming down at 9am.. so aim for then if you want to watch/get in the queue, or 10am-ish if you want to be on/off as quick as poss
Prob aim for 9:30-10 if that's alright with you guys?
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can't see that being a problem - you might just catch the result of vaughn's stock ed30 vs leigh's stock ed30 :grin:
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How'd you get on Ivor?????
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How'd you get on Ivor?????
I dunno....................... I had that many power runs trying different map tweeks, I forgot what had happened, lol!! :D
I think on average, it made circa 200 bhp at the wheels, which was more than the 2 stock Ed. 30's that ran. 8)
I was down a bit on torque compared to the R-Tech RR day in March at Graham's X-Power place, but I've now deffo developed a boost leak somewhere........................... GREAT!! :rolleyes: :D
Anybody got a smoke test kit!! :kiss: :laugh:
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p.s. My engine mounts are deffo foobarred - The engine looked like it wanted to throw itself through the windscreen! :D
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I think you had 9 runs in total, never seen the dyno so busy.. even on a saturday!
Smoke machine will be on it's way! Just need the mac tools man to get a better price.
Something i forgot to mention yesterday - which you probably already know, but just in case.. make sure your battery is disconnected when you go investigating that ignitor ring :afro:
..and dont worry i've seen worse mounts than that :grin: the diesel posse seem to know something i don't about getting cheap THS performance mounts.. worth looking in to
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I think you had 9 runs in total, never seen the dyno so busy.. even on a saturday!
Smoke machine will be on it's way! Just need the mac tools man to get a better price.
Something i forgot to mention yesterday - which you probably already know, but just in case.. make sure your battery is disconnected when you go investigating that ignitor ring :afro:
..and dont worry i've seen worse mounts than that :grin: the diesel posse seem to know something i don't about getting cheap THS performance mounts.. worth looking in to
Yeah, I always disc. the battery when messing with explosives :D, but thanks anyway! :afro:
I did (kindly & very nobly) get the link from the derv boys, but the supplier seems to be out of stock at the special price, though! :cry:
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I think you had 9 runs in total, never seen the dyno so busy.. even on a saturday!
Smoke machine will be on it's way! Just need the mac tools man to get a better price.
Something i forgot to mention yesterday - which you probably already know, but just in case.. make sure your battery is disconnected when you go investigating that ignitor ring :afro:
..and dont worry i've seen worse mounts than that :grin: the diesel posse seem to know something i don't about getting cheap THS performance mounts.. worth looking in to
Yeah, I always disc. the battery when messing with explosives :D, but thanks anyway! :afro:
I did (kindly & very nobly) get the link from the derv boys, but the supplier seems to be out of stock at the special price, though! :cry:
THS are doing all 3 mounts for £145 delivered though :wink: Think Lee (johnson) has ordered the full set :smiley:
Will Nick have that boost leak tester soon Toph?
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dunno pal, i'll mention it again next week.. not sure how often the mac tools man drops in though!
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go down you're local disco equipment shop for a smoke machine :grin:
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I think you had 9 runs in total, never seen the dyno so busy.. even on a saturday!
Smoke machine will be on it's way! Just need the mac tools man to get a better price.
Something i forgot to mention yesterday - which you probably already know, but just in case.. make sure your battery is disconnected when you go investigating that ignitor ring :afro:
..and dont worry i've seen worse mounts than that :grin: the diesel posse seem to know something i don't about getting cheap THS performance mounts.. worth looking in to
Yeah, I always disc. the battery when messing with explosives :D, but thanks anyway! :afro:
I did (kindly & very nobly) get the link from the derv boys, but the supplier seems to be out of stock at the special price, though! :cry:
THS are doing all 3 mounts for £145 delivered though :wink: Think Lee (johnson) has ordered the full set :smiley:
Will Nick have that boost leak tester soon Toph?
Thanks, but I've already got the R32 dogbone! ;)
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Ivor buy the full set for the cheaper price then sell the uprated dog bone mount on it's own :wink:
£135 for all 3
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/THS-FR3-Engine-Mounting-System-Seat-Leon-Cupra-R-1-8T_W0QQitemZ370219636790QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item5632cf5836&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14
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Ivor buy the full set for the cheaper price then sell the uprated dog bone mount on it's own :wink:
£135 for all 3
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/THS-FR3-Engine-Mounting-System-Seat-Leon-Cupra-R-1-8T_W0QQitemZ370219636790QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item5632cf5836&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14
How much would I get for the DB, do you reckon??
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£50 ish
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Yeah £142 delivered, skip the £70 off voucher for a fiver and look though the listings, share fluke i found them.
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Aye, it was a complete fluke I spotted the engine mounts going for £80.
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Yeah £142 delivered, skip the £70 off voucher for a fiver and look though the listings, share fluke i found them.
Although the mounts are the same, the £135 mounts state Cupra R, but the £5 for £70 off voucher says Golf, so I'm not sure that it would accept the 2 together or not?? :undecided:
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Back on the ebay induction kit, just fitted mine [reverse Ivor :wink:], and have to say am quite impressed. A little more induction noise but not ridiculous, just a little roar :smiley:
Would advise 70-90mm jubilee clips for fittings as Ivor already mentioned, as supplied ones are poo!! Been to Hull today 70 miles for me, popped bonnet when arrived and it was as cool as a cucumber to the touch. Early days,but quite chuffed :wink:
Ps anyone with secondary hose needs a 25mm breather filter, mine was a tenner delivered from the bay.
PPs am considering replacing vents in front and running cold feed to them as I only have standard intake parts, will allow it to breathe easier I think..
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Back on the ebay induction kit, just fitted mine [reverse Ivor :wink:], and have to say am quite impressed. A little more induction noise but not ridiculous, just a little roar :smiley:
Would advise 70-90mm jubilee clips for fittings as Ivor already mentioned, as supplied ones are poo!! Been to Hull today 70 miles for me, popped bonnet when arrived and it was as cool as a cucumber to the touch. Early days,but quite chuffed :wink:
Ps anyone with secondary hose needs a 25mm breather filter, mine was a tenner delivered from the bay.
PPs am considering replacing vents in front and running cold feed to them as I only have standard intake parts, will allow it to breathe easier I think..
Ah, good! :afro: Have you tried it t'other way around as well??
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Not tried it 'conventional' way yet Ivor. What did you say difference was?? A little less noise was it. Might spin it round tomorrow...
Can't grumble for 40notes though. Can't see how a genuine BMC would be £200 more superior, you get what you pay for and all that, but I think sometimes companys do take the piss......
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Not tried it 'conventional' way yet Ivor. What did you say difference was?? A little less noise was it. Might spin it round tomorrow...
Can't grumble for 40notes though. Can't see how a genuine BMC would be £200 more superior, you get what you pay for and all that, but I think sometimes companys do take the piss......
Of course they're taking the pi55, but I'd imagine a lot more R&D went into the BMC kit, though! ;)
It wasn't the noise, chief, it felt a little more restrictive the 'logical' way around! ;)
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Well BMC spend thousand researchig this and then this company just use their idea for bugger all
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Well BMC spend thousand researchig this and then this company just use their idea for bugger all
Good old new company I say!! We'll call it utilising others findings :wink:
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Well BMC spend thousand researchig this and then this company just use their idea for bugger all
Good old new company I say!! We'll call it utilising others findings :wink:
They wouldn't be the first co. to do it! :D
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Back on the ebay induction kit, just fitted mine [reverse Ivor :wink:], and have to say am quite impressed. A little more induction noise but not ridiculous, just a little roar :smiley:
Would advise 70-90mm jubilee clips for fittings as Ivor already mentioned, as supplied ones are poo!! Been to Hull today 70 miles for me, popped bonnet when arrived and it was as cool as a cucumber to the touch. Early days,but quite chuffed :wink:
Ps anyone with secondary hose needs a 25mm breather filter, mine was a tenner delivered from the bay.
PPs am considering replacing vents in front and running cold feed to them as I only have standard intake parts, will allow it to breathe easier I think..
I bought the aluminium induction kit off ebay and it came with an adapter for the secondary hose that went straight into the original airbox and it plumbs straight into an intake on the ali pipe
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Not tried it 'conventional' way yet Ivor. What did you say difference was?? A little less noise was it. Might spin it round tomorrow...
Can't grumble for 40notes though. Can't see how a genuine BMC would be £200 more superior, you get what you pay for and all that, but I think sometimes companys do take the piss......
Hey Aboo...................
Did you try the filter the other way around in the end?
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my ebay job filter is gone :cry:
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my ebay job filter is gone :cry:
Why'd you sell it again? :undecided:
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my ebay job filter is gone :cry:
Why'd you sell it again? :undecided:
had crack in the pipe and MAf had a sissy fit :cry: so decided put it all back to standard incase wasnt just the MAf :sad:
i was tempted to yank another pipe on but dnt wana go through hassle again.. i may get a air box similiar to the ebay one and get sum metal alloy pipes made that way no cracks or maybe DSG stil thinking :wink:
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This I/K is now for sale if anyone's interested?
In excellent condition, & all the parts are still there.
Looking for £35 with free delivery, but I will fit this F.O.C. if anyone wants to collect (should only take 5/10 mins).
p.s. You don't have to have the ignition amplifier hooked over the bracket (as in the first picture on page 1) - I later moved it nearer the bulkhead. :)
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Hmmm that's tempting! Would go nicely with all my other 'silver bullet' goodies!
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I have one, I love it :cool:
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Ah, the infamous TJG.................................................... My no. 1 customer! :D ;)
It's nice to know that all of Golfy's old performance organs are going to help another forum members' Golf out-drag some CTR's! ha-ha! :laugh:
(Awaits Mr Jules for another Mk4 Golf bashing rant! :D).
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Or the sports cat onto mine! :grin:
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Special deal for your number 1 customer?
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Ah, the infamous TJG.................................................... My no. 1 customer! :D ;)
It's nice to know that all of Golfy's old performance organs are going to help another forum members' Golf out-drag some CTR's! ha-ha! :laugh:
(Awaits Mr Jules for another Mk4 Golf bashing rant! :D).
You'll be waiting ages then - he got deleted about 2 months ago :grin: :grin:
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Special deal for your number 1 customer?
Of course! ;)
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I'm expecting a PM then Keith!
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Done! :afro: