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Title: New Key for a New mark 4
Post by: hobbes on 18 July 2009, 21:17
Hi,
I suspect this might be an old topic here but I shall ask anyway.

Today I have bought a TD TDI on a 99/S however I think there is a problem with the immobiliser.  I managed to get a good chunk off the price to compensate but I think it will begin to give me grief.  So, I want to go about getting a new key coded to my central locking and the immobiliser.

I've referenced the maintenance section and have now recorded my part number and frequency - what is the most cost effective way of getting a new key?  Is it via somewhere like ebay or straight to VW?  also, the aforementioned post makes reference to immob2 and immob2 - how do i know which is relevant to mine.  It also states i need the SKC - how can i get this if i don't know where it is?

Sorry, all this electronic witch craft is new to me coming from a Mk2.....
Title: Re: New Key for a New mark 4
Post by: Wayne on 18 July 2009, 21:26
I believe VW would be you best and only bet.
Title: Re: New Key for a New mark 4
Post by: hobbes on 18 July 2009, 21:39
I believe VW would be you best and only bet.


Thank you.  Would you happen to know roughly what the cost might be?
Title: Re: New Key for a New mark 4
Post by: hobbes on 18 July 2009, 21:49
Am thinking some more....  I only have the one key and its a ropey one at that. 

Basically, the car sometimes will not start and i'm putting it down to a faulty immobiliser in the key itself - could it be something else thats commonly wrong on a mark 4?  Its only when the glo plug lights up when you turn the key will it start - sometimes the glo plug does not light up and therefore will not start......... 
Title: Re: New Key for a New mark 4
Post by: Ivor Mk4 Turbo on 18 July 2009, 21:51
I believe VW would be you best and only bet.


Thank you.  Would you happen to know roughly what the cost might be?


VW maybe the best bet, but not the only bet.  You're probably looking at ~£150 from the stealers.

You could get a blank key off the internet (~£40??), get it cut, program the RCL yourself & pay someone to code the immobiliser for you ~£25.


p.s.  Hobbes, I take it you've read this thread, then?  http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=111526.0
Title: Re: New Key for a New mark 4
Post by: topher on 18 July 2009, 21:55
Am thinking some more....  I only have the one key and its a ropey one at that. 

Basically, the car sometimes will not start and i'm putting it down to a faulty immobiliser in the key itself - could it be something else thats commonly wrong on a mark 4?  Its only when the glo plug lights up when you turn the key will it start - sometimes the glo plug does not light up and therefore will not start......... 

you would usually get a dash light for the immobiliser if that was preventing the car from starting
Title: Re: New Key for a New mark 4
Post by: Ivor Mk4 Turbo on 18 July 2009, 21:56
Am thinking some more....  I only have the one key and its a ropey one at that. 

Basically, the car sometimes will not start and i'm putting it down to a faulty immobiliser in the key itself - could it be something else thats commonly wrong on a mark 4?  Its only when the glo plug lights up when you turn the key will it start - sometimes the glo plug does not light up and therefore will not start......... 


Mmmmmmmmmm, not sure it's your immob., then, as the key light uses flashes & you get a immob. inactive message in the display, when that's playing up.  I think you need to get your car scanned for any DTC's. ;)
Title: Re: New Key for a New mark 4
Post by: hobbes on 18 July 2009, 22:03
Am thinking some more....  I only have the one key and its a ropey one at that. 

Basically, the car sometimes will not start and i'm putting it down to a faulty immobiliser in the key itself - could it be something else thats commonly wrong on a mark 4?  Its only when the glo plug lights up when you turn the key will it start - sometimes the glo plug does not light up and therefore will not start......... 


Mmmmmmmmmm, not sure it's your immob., then, as the key light uses flashes & you get a immob. inactive message in the display, when that's playing up.  I think you need to get your car scanned for any DTC's. ;)


DTC's?
Title: Re: New Key for a New mark 4
Post by: hobbes on 18 July 2009, 22:06
I believe VW would be you best and only bet.


Thank you.  Would you happen to know roughly what the cost might be?


VW maybe the best bet, but not the only bet.  You're probably looking at ~£150 from the stealers.

You could get a blank key off the internet (~£40??), get it cut, program the RCL yourself & pay someone to code the immobiliser for you ~£25.


p.s.  Hobbes, I take it you've read this thread, then?  http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=111526.0



I prefer c. £65 to £150....!

question - to what sort of person/company would I pay to get this done?  A VW specialist/auto electrician ????
Title: Re: New Key for a New mark 4
Post by: Ivor Mk4 Turbo on 18 July 2009, 22:06
Sorry, meant trouble codes.  DTC = Detect Trouble Codes. :afro:
Title: Re: New Key for a New mark 4
Post by: hobbes on 18 July 2009, 22:08
I believe VW would be you best and only bet.


Thank you.  Would you happen to know roughly what the cost might be?


VW maybe the best bet, but not the only bet.  You're probably looking at ~£150 from the stealers.

You could get a blank key off the internet (~£40??), get it cut, program the RCL yourself & pay someone to code the immobiliser for you ~£25.


p.s.  Hobbes, I take it you've read this thread, then?  http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=111526.0

Yeah i did read that post - i'm now armed with the part number and frequency. 

Another question - how do you program the central locking to the key - you say i can do this myself?
Title: Re: New Key for a New mark 4
Post by: Ivor Mk4 Turbo on 18 July 2009, 22:08
I believe VW would be you best and only bet.


Thank you.  Would you happen to know roughly what the cost might be?


VW maybe the best bet, but not the only bet.  You're probably looking at ~£150 from the stealers.

You could get a blank key off the internet (~£40??), get it cut, program the RCL yourself & pay someone to code the immobiliser for you ~£25.


p.s.  Hobbes, I take it you've read this thread, then?  http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=111526.0



I prefer c. £65 to £150....!

question - to what sort of person/company would I pay to get this done?  A VW specialist/auto electrician ????


Yeah, a local VAG specialist or a member nearby who has VAGCOM & would do it for a few beer tokens. ;)
Title: Re: New Key for a New mark 4
Post by: Ivor Mk4 Turbo on 18 July 2009, 22:10
I believe VW would be you best and only bet.


Thank you.  Would you happen to know roughly what the cost might be?


VW maybe the best bet, but not the only bet.  You're probably looking at ~£150 from the stealers.

You could get a blank key off the internet (~£40??), get it cut, program the RCL yourself & pay someone to code the immobiliser for you ~£25.


p.s.  Hobbes, I take it you've read this thread, then?  http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=111526.0

Yeah i did read that post - i'm now armed with the part number and frequency. 

Another question - how do you program the central locking to the key - you say i can do this myself?

Yes, there is a guide on the web somewhere.  It's something like old key in ignition, new key in drivers door, press certain keyfob buttons in a particular order etc. etc.. Have a google or something. ;)
Title: Re: New Key for a New mark 4
Post by: rapidrc on 31 July 2009, 19:32
hi if you tell me the year etc i can get the programming info for you off autodata if you want??? only for rcl not imob....

ta
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Title: Re: New Key for a New mark 4
Post by: Wurzel on 31 July 2009, 19:40
I have a problem - the previous owner of my car has superglues the two peices of the remote together so I cant open it! Anyone who what i should do? It's a 1999 1.8 20v non-turbo.
Title: Re: New Key for a New mark 4
Post by: duncan_t on 08 December 2009, 20:17
I believe VW would be you best and only bet.


Thank you.  Would you happen to know roughly what the cost might be?

Well I'm in the same boat, just went to my local VAG dealer, they quoted me £45 just to code the immobiliser! Daylight robbery  :cry:
VW maybe the best bet, but not the only bet.  You're probably looking at ~£150 from the stealers.

You could get a blank key off the internet (~£40??), get it cut, program the RCL yourself & pay someone to code the immobiliser for you ~£25.


p.s.  Hobbes, I take it you've read this thread, then?  http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=111526.0



I prefer c. £65 to £150....!

question - to what sort of person/company would I pay to get this done?  A VW specialist/auto electrician ????


Yeah, a local VAG specialist or a member nearby who has VAGCOM & would do it for a few beer tokens. ;)
Title: Re: New Key for a New mark 4
Post by: richw911 on 08 December 2009, 22:24
I believe VW would be you best and only bet.


Thank you.  Would you happen to know roughly what the cost might be?


VW maybe the best bet, but not the only bet.  You're probably looking at ~£150 from the stealers.

You could get a blank key off the internet (~£40??), get it cut, program the RCL yourself & pay someone to code the immobiliser for you ~£25.


p.s.  Hobbes, I take it you've read this thread, then?  http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=111526.0

Yeah i did read that post - i'm now armed with the part number and frequency. 

Another question - how do you program the central locking to the key - you say i can do this myself?

Yes, there is a guide on the web somewhere.  It's something like old key in ignition, new key in drivers door, press certain keyfob buttons in a particular order etc. etc.. Have a google or something. ;)

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=77197.0  :wink:
Title: Re: New Key for a New mark 4
Post by: Ant1981 on 09 December 2009, 01:59
I have a problem - the previous owner of my car has superglues the two peices of the remote together so I cant open it! Anyone who what i should do? It's a 1999 1.8 20v non-turbo.

Break it open, or get your own thread.
Title: Re: New Key for a New mark 4
Post by: duncan_t on 02 June 2010, 20:50
Did you ever get this sorted? I have a key that I need the immobiliser programming on (got a fob from ebay, got a key cut etc), but my local dealer refused to do it. My folks live in Christchurch, so if there is somebody you have found that will do it, can you pass on the details? Cheers
Title: Re: New Key for a New mark 4
Post by: Wurzel on 03 June 2010, 08:28
No my key is still superglued together. Going to sell the car this weekend not sure what to do about it.