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Title: GTDi
Post by: olly1 on 08 July 2009, 17:49
Sorry guys have ordered a new Steel grey GTDi after having owned a Mark V gti. (Am I allowed on this forum??)
I have gone for the diesel after my engine exploded in the mark V  and after having had an Audi TT for two years.
Has anyone got a picture of their Steel grey GTI? mark VI that can be viewed?

I have not seen one.
Title: Re: GTDi
Post by: GolfTi on 08 July 2009, 21:03
You need the oil burner thread. (if it exists)
Title: Re: GTDi
Post by: Rolfe on 08 July 2009, 21:11
Lots of people have told me the diesel is great.  That I'm an idiot not to have considered it.  That it has torque you wouldn't believe.

Don't rain on the guy's perfectly nice parade!

Rolfe.
Title: Re: GTDi
Post by: GolfTi on 08 July 2009, 21:24
Isn't the GTD the same engine/power as the mk5 GT sport diesel?

Seems a peculiar marketing option from VW to give it the same (almost) body and interior as the GTI.
I know diesels have torque but it's really not in the the same league unless you want to talk about mpg (???)

Are they targeting company car buyers?

IF I was ever going to buy a diesel then it would be a GTD. :wink:
Title: Re: GTDi
Post by: GtiJames on 08 July 2009, 21:40
i would say very good choice especially when upgrading from a mk5gti, the mk5 lacked a performance diesel it only had the gt which really did not cut it when compared to the mk4gtdi, if diesel works for you and you want to keep the gti badge it is a sensible choice

i would say it is the most innovative car in the mk6 range

ps send it over to the guys at revo and you will probably have a monster of a car  :evil:
Title: Re: GTDi
Post by: Jay on 08 July 2009, 21:45
You're welcome here.

Nawt wrong with the GTD, they're 170PS and have a 0-60 of 8.1 seconds and 258lb/ft.
So only 1.2 seconds slower than a GTI and if you're a better driver than the bloke in a GTI you'd beat him.

With a remap it'll be even better :wink:

I love my GTD (even if it is 18yrs old)  :cool:

I drove the MK5 GT Sport (derv) and it was sweet, I can only imagine the MK6 is much better.
Title: Re: GTDi
Post by: Rhyso on 09 July 2009, 08:06
new GTD looks pretty cool but fook me it is pricey!!!  :shocked: :shocked:

i specced one up the other day and managed to get it to around £25,000!! And i missed out most of the pricey options!!

I would have thought they'd push the power a little more too  :undecided:

Title: Re: GTDi
Post by: Exonian on 09 July 2009, 17:49
Autoexpress first drive: http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/carreviews/firstdrives/238156/volkswagen_golf_gtd.html
Title: Re: GTDi
Post by: evo1986 on 22 October 2009, 10:35
Have had my GTD revo'd its now an incredible car much faster than the mk6 gti till you get to silly numbers.
Title: Re: GTDi
Post by: R32UK on 22 October 2009, 10:43
Have had my GTD revo'd its now an incredible car much faster than the mk6 gti till you get to silly numbers.

std v modded is not a fair comparison. try a revo'd gti then report back your findings :wink:
Title: Re: GTDi
Post by: AlanH on 22 October 2009, 10:45
Sorry guys have ordered a new Steel grey GTDi after having owned a Mark V gti. (Am I allowed on this forum??)
I have gone for the diesel after my engine exploded in the mark V  and after having had an Audi TT for two years.
Has anyone got a picture of their Steel grey GTI? mark VI that can be viewed?

I have not seen one.

Here's pic of my Steel Grey GTD if that helps (scroll down to bottom of page).
http://uk-mkivs.net/forums/t/300444.aspx
Title: Re: GTDi
Post by: p3eps on 22 October 2009, 11:15
I test drove a GTD a few weeks ago to try out DSG (my dealer didn't have the GTI in DSG).
I was very surprised as to how good it was.  It was quiet, powerful and smooth... and quick.
The GTI was more fun with higher revs, but I wouldn't say it was THAT much faster - especially as the DSG kept the GTD in the right gears for power!

If I did a lot of miles - I would certainly seriously consider a GTD.  Fortunately I only do about 15 miles a day on average - so I'll stick with petrol  :cool:
Title: Re: GTDi
Post by: AlanH on 22 October 2009, 11:20
Exactly why I went from a MK5 GTi Edition 30 to the GTD - I do around 25,000 miles year and needed to save money somewhere. Not at all disappointed.
Title: Re: GTDi
Post by: mds69 on 22 October 2009, 11:51
I test drove a GTD a few weeks ago to try out DSG (my dealer didn't have the GTI in DSG).
I was very surprised as to how good it was.  It was quiet, powerful and smooth... and quick.
The GTI was more fun with higher revs, but I wouldn't say it was THAT much faster - especially as the DSG kept the GTD in the right gears for power!

If I did a lot of miles - I would certainly seriously consider a GTD.  Fortunately I only do about 15 miles a day on average - so I'll stick with petrol  :cool:

Test drove a GTD/DSG yesterday (have a non-DSG GTD on order but VW not threatening to deliver any time soon!) - was seriously impressed!  Would take manual version if available...

Dealer actually talked me out of a GTi alternative!  They've just had 3 heavy mob thefts of GTi-s - presumably Manc/Scouse crims - all recovered by Tracker!  Not exactly common I suppose but stopped that line of enquiry dead!  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTDi
Post by: Spartacus on 22 October 2009, 15:18
Having owned several GTi's over the years I bought a MkV GT TDi 140bhp 4 Motion from new 4 years ago. Paid £18k for it.

It has been a very 'good' car and very reliable but not all exciting to drive in the same way as a petrol GTi.

Yes I can get 55mpg but that gets dull and boring. Traction in the wet and snow is nothing short of amazing. Full bore standing starts, drop the clutch and away you go with no tyre squeal or burning rubber.

Yes, it has mid range overtaking pull but it does not make my hairs stand up on the back of my neck as my old GTi's used to do.

So, that car is for sale for around £10k ( pretty damn good residuals ) while I wait for my new GTi to arrive in about 3 weeks.

Cannot wait to get back into a fun car again, that makes me feel special so that I can start enjoying my driving again. :smiley:
Title: Re: GTDi
Post by: R32UK on 22 October 2009, 15:21
I test drove a GTD a few weeks ago to try out DSG (my dealer didn't have the GTI in DSG).
I was very surprised as to how good it was.  It was quiet, powerful and smooth... and quick.
The GTI was more fun with higher revs, but I wouldn't say it was THAT much faster - especially as the DSG kept the GTD in the right gears for power!

If I did a lot of miles - I would certainly seriously consider a GTD.  Fortunately I only do about 15 miles a day on average - so I'll stick with petrol  :cool:

Test drove a GTD/DSG yesterday (have a non-DSG GTD on order but VW not threatening to deliver any time soon!) - was seriously impressed!  Would take manual version if available...

Dealer actually talked me out of a GTi alternative!  They've just had 3 heavy mob thefts of GTi-s - presumably Manc/Scouse crims - all recovered by Tracker!  Not exactly common I suppose but stopped that line of enquiry dead!  :smiley:

Dont want to pee on your bonfire but the chance are you were pushed towards the GTD because they are alot easier to get hold of than the GTI. not to take anything away from the GTD its still a great car and like its been said will easily map to 210bhp anyway... its just that I have found dont believe everything dealers tell you :wink:
Title: Re: GTDi
Post by: mds69 on 22 October 2009, 17:17
Dont want to pee on your bonfire but the chance are you were pushed towards the GTD because they are alot easier to get hold of than the GTI. not to take anything away from the GTD its still a great car and like its been said will easily map to 210bhp anyway... its just that I have found dont believe everything dealers tell you :wink:

Probably some truth in that  :smiley:!  Not sure about GTD being easier to get hold of though (not my experience)...probably depends on spec I guess.

Not sure why you'd remap the GTD - for track days surely a GTi/Petrol would be the only sane option?  Standard GTD plenty fast enough for me thanks - yes, past 40 and bit more sensible now!  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTDi
Post by: orca on 22 October 2009, 19:48
I used to have a Mk5 2.0 TDI (140bhp) before my Mk5 GTI and I can honestly say that it was a great car.  I could just about keep up with most GTIs.  It was great for motorway driving as you could keep it in 5th or even 6th gear and still have the overtaking power.

I would say that the GTI is only a bit faster but a lot more fun to drive.  In real world driving conditions, there won't be much between the two.

I recently got beaten by a MK5 2.0 TDI  :sad:.  I just couldn't catch up with him.  It must have been remapped.

The MK6 GTD does look pretty nice and if you are doing a lot of miles then it makes more sense than a GTI.
Title: Re: GTDi
Post by: denyason on 23 October 2009, 00:14
the review i'd read didnt give it any good compliments.  Can't remember what article it was, but it pointed that it was very slow, noisy and better getting a gti which is highly desirable.  plus them alloys aint as nice imo.
Title: Re: GTDi
Post by: VWKev on 23 October 2009, 10:51
whats a gtdi ?
Title: Re: GTDi
Post by: p3eps on 23 October 2009, 11:09
whats a gtdi ?

A typo I would think  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTDi
Post by: VWKev on 23 October 2009, 11:33
whats a gtdi ?

A typo I would think  :laugh:

Ahh  :grin:
Title: Re: GTDi
Post by: Snoopy on 23 October 2009, 12:23
Isn't the GTD the same engine/power as the mk5 GT sport diesel?

Seems a peculiar marketing option from VW to give it the same (almost) body and interior as the GTI.
I know diesels have torque but it's really not in the the same league unless you want to talk about mpg (???)

Are they targeting company car buyers?

IF I was ever going to buy a diesel then it would be a GTD. :wink:
As i cannot see any reply saying this.
No its a totally different engine to the mk5 it does not have the huge clatter and turbo lag the mk5 has as its not PD its common rail. Much quieter and far more refined in both noise and power delivey.
Theres a huge difference imo between the new CR engine and the older PD units.
Title: Re: GTDi
Post by: mds69 on 23 October 2009, 13:01
the review i'd read didnt give it any good compliments.  Can't remember what article it was, but it pointed that it was very slow, noisy and better getting a gti which is highly desirable.  plus them alloys aint as nice imo.

The Performance Car mag group test of VAG diesel 'warm' hatches this month is a good read and a bit more balanced opinion than the above.

Clearly the GTi will be better in certain obvious performance areas and GTD better for the obvious diesel benefits.

No arguing about the alloys though - GTD obviously looks a lot more conservative...
Title: Re: GTDi
Post by: evo1986 on 23 October 2009, 22:18
Have had my GTD revo'd its now an incredible car much faster than the mk6 gti till you get to silly numbers.

std v modded is not a fair comparison. try a revo'd gti then report back your findings :wink:
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std gtd vs gti std almost same till 100+
Title: Re: GTDi
Post by: Jay on 23 October 2009, 22:40
f@ck revo, get a compounded turbo with more blowing power, lightened & balanced forged con rods, ceramic pitons, larger injectors, bigger zhaust, better cam, stronger clutch then go for revo  :evil: