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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: sax4u on 30 March 2009, 00:29
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I have bought my Golf Gti turbo with a atmospheric Bailey d/v already on it, and i read somewhere in this forum that its not doing it any good, and that i should stick to the re-circulating one..is this true, but i noticed i will need another pipe to put a standard valve back on, so was wondering if anyone may have one laying about that would like to sell it to me. At the moment, this d/v is seems to be running alright so im not sure whether to put an re-circulating one back on, or just leave it? I have an AGU engine, and no lights or anything is showing. I have took it to a VW garage to get the ecu checked out, and its showing no faults at all! Any help or suggestions is grately appreciated. thanx
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it is recomended BUT on agu engines ( i have the same) it is said an atmospheric is fine and will not give you any mechanical problems.. but are you getting any turbo lag through the rev range?? if so then its best to get a forge 007 or a forge splitter-r which is what i have in my golf .. and it does the job ace.. also gives nice whoosh sound :smiley:
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it is recomended BUT on agu engines ( i have the same) it is said an atmospheric is fine and will not give you any mechanical problems.. but are you getting any turbo lag through the rev range?? if so then its best to get a forge 007 or a forge splitter-r which is what i have in my golf .. and it does the job ace.. also gives nice whoosh sound :smiley:
Hi..thanx for your reply, yes i do get alil turbo lag when you put your foot down, but its only for a second or two, im not sure whether that d/v has anything to do with it, cos i heard that its a common thing on the Golfs!..is that true? If that d/v is def causing that turbo lag, then yes i would like to change it back to a re-circulating one, but im not sure how to put it back, cos i think i need an extra pipe to put it back, but not sure where to get hold of one.
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can you post up some pics mate of you'r dump valve layout so far .. :nerd:
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i've got a standard bosch DV if u want that. assuming the one from an AUM fits urs?
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the forge splitter dv will be fine with an agu engine as on the agu it doesn't have to re-circulate like on an aum engine and won't cause issues with the ecu etc the forge dv is preferable to the bailey unit
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Hi..mines the agu, but would yours fit on mine? thnx
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i've got a standard bosch DV if u want that. assuming the one from an AUM fits urs?
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Thanx for the advice, i feel ahell lot better now! but its just a normal Baileys thats on it now, so would that be alright?
the forge splitter dv will be fine with an agu engine as on the agu it doesn't have to re-circulate like on an aum engine and won't cause issues with the ecu etc the forge dv is preferable to the bailey unit
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Hi..im not so clever when it comes to posting pics im afraid, dont know how to do it, but all i know, its on the back of the engine on the driver side. Hope this helps?
can you post up some pics mate of you'r dump valve layout so far .. :nerd:
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Yes i would luv to take that off you, how mush do you want for it? thanx
i've got a standard bosch DV if u want that. assuming the one from an AUM fits urs?
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Im not sure whether your standard AUM d/v will fit on My AGU one, but if you can find out, and if it does, plz call, or txt me on 07973 241812, so we can arrange something. thanx
i've got a standard bosch DV if u want that. assuming the one from an AUM fits urs?
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Im not sure whether your standard AUM d/v will fit on My AGU one, but if you can find out, and if it does, plz call, or txt me on 07973 241812, so we can arrange something. thanx
i've got a standard bosch DV if u want that. assuming the one from an AUM fits urs?
im sure the standard bosh d/v will fit it as it is used throughout all the 1.8t VAG engines... but the bosh d/v is b******t.. your better of getting a forge 007 recirculating d/v or a forge splitter they are a direct fit .. http://www.forgemotorsport.com/content.asp?inc=product&cat=260301&product=FMCL007P http://www.forgemotorsport.com/content.asp?inc=product&cat=260301&product=FMDVSPLTR :smiley:
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Im not sure whether your standard AUM d/v will fit on My AGU one, but if you can find out, and if it does, plz call, or txt me on 07973 241812, so we can arrange something. thanx
i've got a standard bosch DV if u want that. assuming the one from an AUM fits urs?
im sure the standard bosh d/v will fit it as it is used throughout all the 1.8t VAG engines... but the bosh d/v is b******t.. your better of getting a forge 007 recirculating d/v or a forge splitter they are a direct fit .. http://www.forgemotorsport.com/content.asp?inc=product&cat=260301&product=FMCL007P http://www.forgemotorsport.com/content.asp?inc=product&cat=260301&product=FMDVSPLTR :smiley:
Yes i know what you mean, i hear about them, but the problem is that i dont have that extra pipe for using the re-circulating one if you know what i mean, its the one thats been bloked off!
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the pipe which is blocked off will be connected into the recirculating d/v.. will it not??? as the baileys one you have is using the vacum hose (thin one off the top) and the pressure pipe and the air pipe is then blocked?? a recirculating d/v will use all the pipes as same as the standard bosch d/v ...so all you gotta do is remove the bung or whatever you have blocking the pipe... dont really know if i explained it clearly :undecided: :grin:
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the pipe which is blocked off will be connected into the recirculating d/v.. will it not??? as the baileys one you have is using the vacum hose (thin one off the top) and the pressure pipe and the air pipe is then blocked?? a recirculating d/v will use all the pipes as same as the standard bosch d/v ...so all you gotta do is remove the bung or whatever you have blocking the pipe... dont really know if i explained it clearly :undecided: :grin:
Hi..yes i know what you mean, and ur right, but i think need that extra 'pipe' that connect to that blocked up bit! (sorry i dont know whats that bit called)! God hope u understand what im trying to say! lol. Do you have that pipe that i will need to put it back to that recirculating one back on, or know where i can get one from? thanx again for yr help.
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ok now u lost me :grin:
check out these pics ones with baileys type you have ....
(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh60/naveedali1/f_imageuploadm_5f073b6.jpg)
this one is with a recirculating d/v
(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh60/naveedali1/Photo-0001.jpg)
now by the stuff you said you dont have no missing pipe as you can see from the pics the bailey d/v ( top pic ) has the air pipe blocked off... and in the second pic the recirculating d/v just slots in the air pipe too so no pipe is blocked of using a recirculating d/v thats the only difference... have a close look and let me know if you have any pipes actually missing becuase a very much doubt you have becuase you would of had crazy engine codes up on the dash...
hope this sheds some light on it :smiley:
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where abouts you from?? i wouldnt mind havin a quick look for ya if your nearby.. if your still confused over it :smiley:
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where abouts you from?? i wouldnt mind havin a quick look for ya if your nearby.. if your still confused over it :smiley:
Right..sorry if i have confused you, cos im really confused now, cos the d/v on mine is on the other side (driver side)!, so i persume its been put at the wrong place then! Think thats why we both got confused with our discriptions! lol. Will this cause it to run poorly and yes would luv you to come and sort it out for me, but i think i live too far from you..im from Blackpool. Many thanx again for youe help.
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too far :shocked:
the d/v is normally placed at the back of the engine bay as you can see in the pics.. or they are relocated to the front of the engine.. iv never seen it anywhere else on a golf 1.8t so dont know really where to help you mate..
your best bet some how get sum pics up just take come on ur phone then photobucket them and post them up.. dat way be able see whats goin on..
but if ur cars running fine with no error codes and no serious turbo lag then don't see no problem..
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too far :shocked:
the d/v is normally placed at the back of the engine bay as you can see in the pics.. or they are relocated to the front of the engine.. iv never seen it anywhere else on a golf 1.8t so dont know really where to help you mate..
your best bet some how get sum pics up just take come on ur phone then photobucket them and post them up.. dat way be able see whats goin on..
but if ur cars running fine with no error codes and no serious turbo lag then don't see no problem..
Hi..right i hvae just find out something about my car, something i havent checked sinced i bought it! I was told its a AGU engine, so i just tooked his word for it, and just left it at that, but just by curiousity 2nite i had a look, and i found out it says ARZ on it! Have i read it right, or is that a dif design from the AGU ones altogether? Maybe thats why the d/v is located at the dif place. Plz help as this is worrying me all the time! Also whats the dif between the two? thnx
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too far :shocked:
the d/v is normally placed at the back of the engine bay as you can see in the pics.. or they are relocated to the front of the engine.. iv never seen it anywhere else on a golf 1.8t so dont know really where to help you mate..
your best bet some how get sum pics up just take come on ur phone then photobucket them and post them up.. dat way be able see whats goin on..
but if ur cars running fine with no error codes and no serious turbo lag then don't see no problem..
Hi..right i hvae just find out something about my car, something i havent checked sinced i bought it! I was told its a AGU engine, so i just tooked his word for it, and just left it at that, but just by curiousity 2nite i had a look, and i found out it says ARZ on it! Have i read it right, or is that a dif design from the AGU ones altogether? Maybe thats why the d/v is located at the dif place. Plz help as this is worrying me all the time! Also whats the dif between the two? thnx
ARZ is newer than an AGU and has the Ko3 turbocharger. All 1.8T engines have them placed in the position you can see from above
Closer pic of standard position.
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too far :shocked:
the d/v is normally placed at the back of the engine bay as you can see in the pics.. or they are relocated to the front of the engine.. iv never seen it anywhere else on a golf 1.8t so dont know really where to help you mate..
your best bet some how get sum pics up just take come on ur phone then photobucket them and post them up.. dat way be able see whats goin on..
but if ur cars running fine with no error codes and no serious turbo lag then don't see no problem..
Hi..right i hvae just find out something about my car, something i havent checked sinced i bought it! I was told its a AGU engine, so i just tooked his word for it, and just left it at that, but just by curiousity 2nite i had a look, and i found out it says ARZ on it! Have i read it right, or is that a dif design from the AGU ones altogether? Maybe thats why the d/v is located at the dif place. Plz help as this is worrying me all the time! Also whats the dif between the two? thnx
ARZ is newer than an AGU and has the Ko3 turbocharger. All 1.8T engines have them placed in the position you can see from above
Closer pic of standard position.
PLease tell me more about the ARZ engine as i have never heard of them before, what are those engine like compare to the AGUs, are they as good, and are they reliable, also are they good for higher performance mods? like to know as much as i can on it. thanx
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Yess..just managed to post a pic on here! My first attempt! lol. Plz let me know if the d/v is at the right place?
(http://i715.photobucket.com/albums/ww151/sax4u/GolfGtiTurbo007.jpg)
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Yess..just managed to post a pic on here! My first attempt! lol. Plz let me know if the d/v is at the right place? With it being a ARZ engine, will it be alright to run it on a atmospheric d/v, as i dont think im having a problem with it now, it seems to run quite smoothly? thnx
(http://i715.photobucket.com/albums/ww151/sax4u/GolfGtiTurbo007.jpg)
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From what i have heard on hear AGU engines are the only ones that are atmospheric d/v friendly the rest dont like them... check this out for more info on it >>
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=89491.0 (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=89491.0)
best give search button a go ...you will find loads info :smiley:
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Any chance of removing the engine cover and getting another picture closer up?
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Any chance of removing the engine cover and getting another picture closer up?
Hi..yes i will do that asap, but my misses always taking it to work!
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Any chance of removing the engine cover and getting another picture closer up?
Hi..im goin away on a holiday 2moro 5th April with the family, but will be back on the 21st April, so will post another pic of the engine then. Hope you wont have given up on me then. Hope to hear from you again soon. Have a gr8 Easter Holiday.