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Offline jacko16v

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Re: Roll cage
« Reply #10 on: 02 November 2008, 19:26 »
If you are going to put a roll cage in your road car, please be very aware that it is lethal to do so, unless you drive everywhere with a crash helmet on, including all passengers as well.
Only three weeks ago, my mate took his road legal (just) but otherwise full time race car out on the road, for a test drive, he lost control, and ended up hitting 5 parked cars, he had to be cut from the car, and ended up in hospital with severe head injuries, 40+ stitches! directly caused by the rollcage, plus other injuries,  luckily he will make a full recovery
If your fitting for a track day/race car, fit only the cage that is the correct application for your car, and that it meets current safety standards, correctly fitted cages are welded in, and never bolted, and should not be modified or drilled in any way..
Tom

Your mate sounds like a dick then, i only asked if it would fit from a 5 door to a 3 door, nothing else.....

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Re: Roll cage
« Reply #11 on: 02 November 2008, 19:29 »
Rah rah rah....

If your fitting for a track day/race car, fit only the cage that is the correct application for your car, and that it meets current safety standards, correctly fitted cages are welded in, and never bolted, and should not be modified or drilled in any way..
Tom

You go ahead and spout rubbish and generally get your funk on.

Here's another answer that the OP probably doesn't want to read.

By all means fit an OMP bolt-in cage, but that should be the start of your rollcage, not the finish of it.  Provided you are a competent welder then there are various beneficial add-ins you can make to a six-point cage:  bar across the car behind the dash, lower door bars, lower cross-brace on the main hoop and harness bars between the cross-bracing.  You will also gain quite a lot of stiffness by 'tabbing' the shell and the cage, so it has pick-up points on the windscreen pillars and B-posts.

All this should be done with 'proper' CDS or chro-moly tubing.

The harness bars are particularly important as it's simply not good enough to use rear seatbelt mounts - they're not designed for it, the harness is terminating too far away and if it's the lower mounts, generally too far down.  If you are in an impact it'll have a good go at crushing your spine.

Four point harnesses with 2" wide straps ain't good enough either - too thin and no lower securing point, so you'll submarine down in your seat, causing further damage to you.  This means that to fit harnesses that will improve your safety you need to fit proper bucket seats with the crutch-strap hole in them.

Oh and you need proper high-density harness padding on the bars to protect the helmet that you're now always going to have to wear when you drive the car.

So, unless you want to bolt in a rollcage and look like some sort of have-a-go-donkey-hero you need to buy in mind that it's just part of a complete safety package - cage, harnesses and bucket seats.

Bit more than a couple of hundred quid on a bolt in cage, isn't it.

Again not the answer i was looking for, all i asked is would it fit? not your thoughts on it, it is a track/project car and will be made safe. People on here are fools when it comes to questions like this, maybe i should have spoke to OMP and not on here!

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Re: Roll cage
« Reply #12 on: 02 November 2008, 19:32 »
Again not the answer i was looking for, all i asked is would it fit? not your thoughts on it, it is a track/project car and will be made safe. People on here are fools when it comes to questions like this, maybe i should have spoke to OMP and not on here!

your original question was - will i have any issues.

diamond hell has explained some issues.

so why doesn't that answer the question?

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Re: Roll cage
« Reply #13 on: 02 November 2008, 19:55 »
Again not the answer i was looking for, all i asked is would it fit? not your thoughts on it, it is a track/project car and will be made safe. People on here are fools when it comes to questions like this, maybe i should have spoke to OMP and not on here!

your original question was - will i have any issues.

diamond hell has explained some issues.

so why doesn't that answer the question?

As the question was will it fit? Not weather i can weld or be arsed to wear a helmet every time i drive my motor!

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Re: Roll cage
« Reply #14 on: 02 November 2008, 23:13 »
In the middle of buying a 5 door gti with a roll cage, want to put it in my 3 door gti, Will i have any issues, from what i have read there the same.

OMP bolt in job if that makes any odds?

Ok, you asked a simple question, by the reaction that youve given, a simple Yes or No was all you were looking for.. as my PC is not fitted with a crystal ball, I or anyone else for that matter, could, and have still yet to give you a definite Yes or No answer... what you got was valid opinions, which when you ask a question on a forum, is usually what you get! so sorry bout that...

Yes my mate is a Dick! and would probably the first to admit it! the accident happened  a few hundred meters from his workshop on a busy industrial estate, its looking like he skidded on spilt Diesel....
Have a nice day
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Re: Roll cage
« Reply #15 on: 02 November 2008, 23:54 »
the b pillar is in diffrent places on 3 and 5 door cars.    rest of the chassi is the same so  should fit in hole
all the VW's have gone bar 1.

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Re: Roll cage
« Reply #16 on: 05 November 2008, 15:27 »
For anyone asking this question in the future it fitted fine.

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Re: Roll cage
« Reply #17 on: 05 November 2008, 17:04 »
Pictures then.
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Re: Roll cage
« Reply #18 on: 05 November 2008, 17:13 »
Jesus H Christ guys, time of the month for you all!?

If this guy wants to put a cage in, who gives a sh!t, its his car, just like I could spray my car pink if I wanted, its nothing to do with you, buit I could ask you what the best type of paint is etc.

If he cracks his head and dies (No offence) thats his problem, wtf, why do you all have to jump on him?

My advice, if you have something to disagree with, PM him, not try to belittle people on here, thats why people leave,

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Re: Roll cage
« Reply #19 on: 05 November 2008, 17:14 »
It's called banter. Now get back in the kitchen, and make me some pie.