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Offline cohiba

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Re: AWESOME
« Reply #20 on: 27 October 2008, 15:34 »
No idea what the boost pressure readings are, what i would like to comment on is the apr torque arm insert.The manuel gear box is more presice and a lot smoother, having no mods to the shock or roll bars, yet you can really feel the difference and there are no vibration or any difference in ride quality.

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Re: AWESOME
« Reply #21 on: 27 October 2008, 15:39 »
bear with me, i dont really know how a RR works BUT what if the prosport measures whp aswell as flywheel and the RR tech guy clicked on whp on his comp, thats why it printed out?? if this doesnt make sence then feel free to shoot me down  :laugh:

maybe joe...and you cant be shot down for asking questions :smiley:
The RR can only measure wheel hp directly, then calculate transmission losses on the coastdown.
The difference is added back to get 'estimated' flywheel hp.
from what Peter said the torque value is calculated from that using the revs
Traditionally the older 'braked' dynos gave a @ wheels figure only , but they can be very hard on a car.

fyi stage 1 APR =  22 psi peak!  dropping to 15-17psi sustained
fyi the dogbone is the dogs  :evil:

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Re: AWESOME
« Reply #22 on: 27 October 2008, 15:45 »
torque is measured, hp is calculated, like i said on page 2.. which is why that graph looks jackanory if you take the point of peak bhp and work it out yourself from the torque and rpm

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Re: AWESOME
« Reply #23 on: 27 October 2008, 15:50 »
torque is measured, hp is calculated, like i said on page 2.. which is why that graph looks jackanory if you take the point of peak bhp and work it out yourself from the torque and rpm

Agreed, looks like they calculated it then bunged on 10% for good measure!

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« Reply #24 on: 27 October 2008, 15:56 »

Agreed, looks like they calculated it then bunged on 10% for good measure!

Nick

I think they drew it on an Etch-a-sketch

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Re: AWESOME
« Reply #25 on: 27 October 2008, 16:02 »
i dont understand?? are you on about the prosport RR or AWESOME? i dont really understand how it can go from one RR to another 2days later and get stupid difference??!!?? even thow nothing was touched on the car!? but the fly figure at prosport matches the whp figure at awesome!!??


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Re: AWESOME
« Reply #26 on: 27 October 2008, 16:07 »
Me and Toph are talking about the graphs in this thread.

hp = (Torque x RPM) / 5252.

If you take any point on the torque graph and multiply the torque marked on the graph to it's corresponding RPM then divide by 5252 you don't get the hp they claim on the same graph.

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Re: AWESOME
« Reply #27 on: 27 October 2008, 16:11 »
i dont understand?? are you on about the prosport RR or AWESOME?

Awesome's rollers

i dont really understand how it can go from one RR to another 2days later and get stupid difference??!!??

Me neither, and that 421lbft torque figure from awesome for the same untouched car a few days earlier has to be added into the mix too.

The transmission losses seem way off and like i said the calculated bhp doesn't seem to relate to the measured torque the way it should.

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Re: AWESOME
« Reply #28 on: 27 October 2008, 16:12 »
is that how bhp is calculated, pritty simple really?  :smiley:

 is it possible that is ps??  :huh:


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Re: AWESOME
« Reply #29 on: 27 October 2008, 16:14 »
i dont understand?? are you on about the prosport RR or AWESOME?

Awesome's rollers

i dont really understand how it can go from one RR to another 2days later and get stupid difference??!!??

Me neither, and that 421lbft torque figure from awesome for the same untouched car a few days earlier has to be added into the mix too.

The transmission losses seem way off and like i said the calculated bhp doesn't seem to relate to the measured torque the way it should.

when was this? so the same car went on  RR on 3 different ocasions and got completely different results each time, and was done on 2 differen rollers?


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