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Veedubgt18v

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16v brakes on an 8v
« on: 24 May 2004, 16:00 »
what do i have to do exactly?

my 8v is a 92 model so has the 90 spec hubs

or g60, what does that involve?

what are the differences between the 3 calipers hubs etc?

do i have to upgrade the master cylinder first or does it not matter?

so many questions!

help!  ???
« Last Edit: 24 May 2004, 16:18 by Veedubgti8v »

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Re:16v brakes on an 8v
« Reply #1 on: 24 May 2004, 16:08 »
and i thought i was doing well fitting 8v gti brakes  :'(

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Re:16v brakes on an 8v
« Reply #2 on: 25 May 2004, 00:24 »
swap various bits ;D

G60 have 280mm discs, 16v have 256mm discs

The carriers are different afaik.

yes. upgrade the master cylinder before if not at the same time else you'll be putting your foot to the floor before you start to slow down.

if you have some spare cash put braided hoses on too.
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Re:16v brakes on an 8v
« Reply #3 on: 25 May 2004, 08:16 »
The hub carriers (wheel bearing housing's) on the 8v and early spec 16v have integral carriers, so for the upgrade you'll need the following:

Hub carriers
Hubs
Caliper Carriers
Calipers
Ball joints
Wheel bearings (best to renew while off the car)
Discs
Splash Guards (not essential)

I believe the G60 hubs are the same as the 16v, but use larger brakes and discs (280mm). I've also read some have done the upgrade to 16v without fitting a new master cylinder, although you will get more pedal travel as the calipers are larger and require more fluid to operate. However if going to g60 brake you'll almost certainly want to upgrade the MC as the brakes are bigger still and pedal travel will be greater.

If your interested I'm doing this upgrade to my 8v, and have a spare set of hubs (powder coated), and my mechanic has a spare set of new vag 16v calipers (he ordered a set from VW and I had ordered a set from VW (miscommunication), as both were special order nether of us could return a set  :-\)
« Last Edit: 25 May 2004, 11:50 by Zoid »

VeeDubGTI16v

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Re:16v brakes on an 8v
« Reply #4 on: 25 May 2004, 11:38 »
how compatible are vr6 bits for doing the g60 conversion, cos vr6 brakes are 280x22 arent they? can yuo use the calipers?

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Re:16v brakes on an 8v
« Reply #5 on: 25 May 2004, 11:55 »
Not sure on using vr6 components, although I've read it can be done, however I've also read that going to 280mm on the Mk2 with no abs will obviously make it more prone to locking the front wheels.

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Re:16v brakes on an 8v
« Reply #6 on: 25 May 2004, 18:14 »
The hub carriers (wheel bearing housing's) on the 8v and early spec 16v have integral carriers, so for the upgrade you'll need the following:

Hub carriers
Hubs
Caliper Carriers
Calipers
Ball joints
Wheel bearings (best to renew while off the car)
Discs
Splash Guards (not essential)

I believe the G60 hubs are the same as the 16v, but use larger brakes and discs (280mm). I've also read some have done the upgrade to 16v without fitting a new master cylinder, although you will get more pedal travel as the calipers are larger and require more fluid to operate. However if going to g60 brake you'll almost certainly want to upgrade the MC as the brakes are bigger still and pedal travel will be greater.

If your interested I'm doing this upgrade to my 8v, and have a spare set of hubs (powder coated), and my mechanic has a spare set of new vag 16v calipers (he ordered a set from VW and I had ordered a set from VW (miscommunication), as both were special order nether of us could return a set  :-\)

yeah might be interested in that, give us an pm and we will see what we can sort out. will i need the hubs if i got late spec ones thos, they were standardised i thought after 1990?

also how hard is it to do the master cylinder? the rest im ok with tho