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Offline TANK

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engine transplant
« on: 16 October 2008, 16:25 »
hi folks im new to the vw scene just bought a golf syncro it currently has a 1.8 8v gti engine but i want a 2.0 and im looking for a easy cheap as possible transplant iv read the threads you lot prefer the 16v this is just a weekend car as i have a 350z aswel but im not a machanic just looking for a straight forward transplant without replacing as many parts as possible and to a budget
cheers guys

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Re: engine transplant
« Reply #1 on: 16 October 2008, 16:28 »
2.0 bottom end from a MKIII Gti will be what you want. Engine code of 2E and I think also AGG.

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Re: engine transplant
« Reply #2 on: 16 October 2008, 16:33 »
Put your 350Z engine in there  :grin:

Seriously though, the 2.0L 16V ABF from the MK3 seems to be the favoured cheap engine which you can pick up on ebay or scrappies. If you're lucky you can get a VR6 lump pretty cheap which may have more power straight off but it's heavier so not favoured as much, but OMFG the sound of a VR6 can not be beat by any of the VAG range of that era.

If you've got about £3k-£5k you can get the 1.8T from many of the VAG range which is very tunable.


2.0 bottom end from a MKIII Gti will be what you want. Engine code of 2E and I think also AGG.

Nick

^ That's also a nice cheap mod  :wink:
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But for the purest engine experience, displacement has no replacement. All other methods are simply attempts to artificially recreate the benefits of displacement.

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Re: engine transplant
« Reply #3 on: 16 October 2008, 16:34 »
Probs is Jay that the Syncro set up standard can't handle tons of power. DH is your man for this but I believe anything over 150 horses and you need to start swapping out the running gear for Rallye spec stuff.

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Re: engine transplant
« Reply #4 on: 16 October 2008, 17:05 »
3.5v6 haha it would be different
cheers guys i would be happy with 140 150bhp
just want a straight forward engine swap 

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Re: engine transplant
« Reply #5 on: 16 October 2008, 17:11 »
I've heard that the late syncros have the same gear as a Rallye, but I have no idea what year 'late' is or even if its true!  danny or diamond will probably chip in.

by far the easiest way for a 2.0 is a MK3/Passat/Vento 2.0 8v bottom end as said, run it on all the old head and existing managment. 2.0 16v is a bit more of a challenge but you get more power out of the box!
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Re: engine transplant
« Reply #6 on: 16 October 2008, 17:58 »
late syncros haveing rallye running gear is a myth.    1990 ones  saw various bits change to make the back end compatable with passat g60 stuff but the gearbox box remaned the same.

2.0 bottom end is the easyest swap and will give more grunt but 140 - 150  is a very big ask for the std RHD exhaust system to support and doing anythign about the exhaust system gets very involved quickly.  you may have to attch the block with an angel grinder to clear the gearbox i had to when put a bubbel block in with rod change  tall blocks may be diffrent.  and you'll want a good clutch if plan to drive it hard  it's 210  and thats thebiggest that'll fit the gearbox  but with extra torque and bugger all wheelspin  they wear a bit   

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Re: engine transplant
« Reply #7 on: 16 October 2008, 18:05 »
Sorry forgot about the running gear involved  :sad:
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Re: engine transplant
« Reply #8 on: 16 October 2008, 18:26 »
late syncros haveing rallye running gear is a myth.    1990 ones  saw various bits change to make the back end compatable with passat g60 stuff but the gearbox box remaned the same.

2.0 bottom end is the easyest swap and will give more grunt but 140 - 150  is a very big ask for the std RHD exhaust system to support and doing anythign about the exhaust system gets very involved quickly.  you may have to attch the block with an angel grinder to clear the gearbox i had to when put a bubbel block in with rod change  tall blocks may be diffrent.  and you'll want a good clutch if plan to drive it hard  it's 210  and thats thebiggest that'll fit the gearbox  but with extra torque and bugger all wheelspin  they wear a bit 

so whats my best option

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Re: engine transplant
« Reply #9 on: 16 October 2008, 18:54 »
How much do you want to spend?
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