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Offline john_o

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WhitelineAntiLiftKit this way ....
« on: 30 September 2008, 23:07 »
blatant lift from uk-mkivs but far too cool a product to not be discussed here too

http://www.whiteline.com.au/docs/bulletins/163-%20mk5%20anti%20lift.pdf

http://www.balancemotorsport.co.uk/products.asp?recnumber=107418

theres a thread there too.
http://uk-mkivs.net/forums/t/221014.aspx cough

Just ordered a set £139 + will be a cost for alignment afterwards

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Re: WhitelineAntiLiftKit this way ....
« Reply #1 on: 30 September 2008, 23:11 »
Also available (along similar lines - improving handling) is a negative camber setup by Morego - costs around £450 iirc..
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Re: WhitelineAntiLiftKit this way ....
« Reply #2 on: 30 September 2008, 23:30 »
Also available (along similar lines - improving handling) is a negative camber setup by Morego - costs around £450 iirc..

....But possibly be prepared for uneven tyre wear and changing tyres rather more often! A friend with Morego wishbones has had this problem.
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Re: WhitelineAntiLiftKit this way ....
« Reply #3 on: 01 October 2008, 11:31 »
Also available (along similar lines - improving handling) is a negative camber setup by Morego - costs around £450 iirc..

....But possibly be prepared for uneven tyre wear and changing tyres rather more often! A friend with Morego wishbones has had this problem.

Yes, agreed.  But the stuff from Morego alters the camber, whereas the Whiteline kit alters the castor, and works in more of a "dynamic" way, than the old skool method of altering camber.  Furthermore, I don't really know much about Morego, but they don't seem to have any real heritage, particularly with VAG marques.  :undecided:

The Whiteline kit does look quality though.  :smiley:
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Re: WhitelineAntiLiftKit this way ....
« Reply #4 on: 01 October 2008, 11:33 »
Oh, and I reckon the Whiteline kit will really add to the benefit of the Quaife ATB diff, because it is hard cornering where the Whiteline anti-lift kit has been specifically designed for.  :wink:   :cool:
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Re: WhitelineAntiLiftKit this way ....
« Reply #5 on: 01 October 2008, 12:02 »
Oh, and I reckon the Whiteline kit will really add to the benefit of the Quaife ATB diff, because it is hard cornering where the Whiteline anti-lift kit has been specifically designed for.  :wink:   :cool:

.... :shocked: You just answered the exact question I was about to ask!! :shocked:

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Re: WhitelineAntiLiftKit this way ....
« Reply #6 on: 01 October 2008, 12:34 »
Oh, and I reckon the Whiteline kit will really add to the benefit of the Quaife ATB diff, because it is hard cornering where the Whiteline anti-lift kit has been specifically designed for.  :wink:   :cool:

.... :shocked: You just answered the exact question I was about to ask!! :shocked:

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I thought I'd beat you too it for a change!  :tongue:  :grin:

They are actually a cheap mod, and on an "improvement per £££" ratio, I reckon would be extremely cost effective, and are an easy DIY fit.
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Re: WhitelineAntiLiftKit this way ....
« Reply #7 on: 01 October 2008, 12:42 »
phew , TT agrees its a good mod  :grin:

The last time I applied castor changes was with adjustable arms on a old mini  :shocked:

Castor effects self centering effort , am I safe to assume it will make the steering heavier in the off centre position?
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Re: WhitelineAntiLiftKit this way ....
« Reply #8 on: 01 October 2008, 13:10 »
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Can somebody explain how this helps the handling please? :embarassed:

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Re: WhitelineAntiLiftKit this way ....
« Reply #9 on: 01 October 2008, 13:26 »
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Can somebody explain how this helps the handling please? :embarassed:

....To quote Julian from Balance Motorsport : -

"Whiteline anti-lift kit actually increases +0.5 static caster not camber. Whiteline don't believe in increasing static camber unless absolutely necassary where as extra positive caster delivers a lot of real world performance benefits, not least of which is better turn in response and more dymanic negative camber on turns. We would estimate that actual improvements in dynamic caster would be in excess of +1.0 degree.

The main aspect of the geometry change is actually the Anti-lift component and the related outcomes. Our experience has shown that we can significanlty reduce understeer and corner exit speed by reducing the stock amount of front anti-lift and this is responsible for most of the other positives felt in the driving."
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