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Offline chungster

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Re: difference between Turbo FSI & TSI engine
« Reply #20 on: 29 September 2008, 21:02 »
doesn't the new donkey use the new Bosch MED17 ECU?


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Re: difference between Turbo FSI & TSI engine
« Reply #21 on: 29 September 2008, 21:15 »
After having a test drive in the new Rocco. I can say that the engine is smoother at the top end.

But it dosen't have as much *Puff*. A very linear power delivery.
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Re: difference between Turbo FSI & TSI engine
« Reply #22 on: 29 September 2008, 21:32 »
After having a test drive in the new Rocco. I can say that the engine is smoother at the top end.

But it dosen't have as much *Puff*. A very linear power delivery.

....I found it very smooth too, but not very exciting. In standard form an excellent daily ride whatever the distance and type of road but not the sort of car you feel you want to take out just for the pure fun.
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Re: difference between Turbo FSI & TSI engine
« Reply #23 on: 29 September 2008, 22:10 »
brilliant engine the 2.0tsi! loads of torque! yes it is the new MED17ecu and we're also the first people to do switchable software for it :)

video of our jetta :) http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=qZFQhXEO6dg (note that that this was a day of constant runs....so final figures should be higher :) )

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Re: difference between Turbo FSI & TSI engine
« Reply #24 on: 29 September 2008, 22:12 »
just another little note... those are WHP figures (tuned in the states where only WHP counts!)

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Re: difference between Turbo FSI & TSI engine
« Reply #25 on: 30 September 2008, 08:31 »
I just have official press access for all of the VAG marques (including the "big boys" - Lambo, Bentley and Bugatti), and also pay for erWin technical info too.  The erWin stuff aint cheap though!  :embarassed:  Oh, I also have ETKA, but keep that quiet!  :wink:

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I don't know what ETKA means, but since it is in such small font, it must be something really special!  :smiley:

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Re: difference between Turbo FSI & TSI engine
« Reply #26 on: 30 September 2008, 08:36 »
TT, so is Mk6 engine a significant improvement over E30 engine?

That is one of the $64,000 questions.  Yes, it does have a number of improvements over the current 2.0TFSI engine (found in the current GTI and Ed30, to name just a few).

Some of the more important features.............


Big thanks for info, TT!  :cool:

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Re: difference between Turbo FSI & TSI engine
« Reply #27 on: 30 September 2008, 09:04 »
Also the high pressure fuel pump is now driven off the exhaust cam and not the inlet cam, with 4 lobes not 3

I think that is slightly irellevant though.  Because my RS4, along with the R8, and RS6 V10 biturbo all use the inlet cam to drive the FSI pump - and you should see the monster pumps on the RS6.  :shocked:

They still have re-designed it though.  I guess this is because of the issues with cam lobe wear with the single piece cam on some but not all BPY engines.
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Re: difference between Turbo FSI & TSI engine
« Reply #28 on: 30 September 2008, 09:36 »
After having a test drive in the new Rocco. I can say that the engine is smoother at the top end.

But it dosen't have as much *Puff*. A very linear power delivery.

Thanks for that.  So it would seem that it is very "Audi-esque" - very refined, and ideal for Germanic luxury cars, whilst at the same time, just "getting the job done" with the minimum of fuss.  But when you say it doesn't have as much "puff" - is that simply because the engine is less harsh, less "in your face"?  Maybe it is just a little too quiet - Milltek will soon sort that!  :evil:

And onto the Rocco, how did you find the ride and handling of the chassis?  Did you get to fiddle with the suspension settings?
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Re: difference between Turbo FSI & TSI engine
« Reply #29 on: 30 September 2008, 09:38 »
After having a test drive in the new Rocco. I can say that the engine is smoother at the top end.

But it dosen't have as much *Puff*. A very linear power delivery.

....I found it very smooth too, but not very exciting. In standard form an excellent daily ride whatever the distance and type of road but not the sort of car you feel you want to take out just for the pure fun.

So the engine has sort of had its "soul" removed?  And would some fettling by Milltek and Revo re-awaken said soul?  :undecided:
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