Please tell me we are not going into this debate again??
Let me throw some spanners here. I have a friend who is 18 years old. His dad used to drive a Gold Opel Astra GTC. Daddy needed to go overseas. The son was left behind and told the kid he could drive the Opel.
A few days into driving the Opel school and back (and I must admit considering the power he has he is extremely responsible and never I repeat never speeds hence why daddy trusted him with the car) he came in saying he had been stopped three times in two days. Told to get out the car and stand against the boot while the traffic officer checked his drivers.
In one week he came and told he had been stopped over 4 times in the Astra. Doing absolutely nothing illegal. He has never been fined and will never be. Red Robin. It seems you are suggesting that just because you are younger (i.e Joes age) in a nice car you should be stopped over and over again?
I think not. Thats very unfair.
I have to agree with Joe. If they want to stop you then go for it. When you are stopped continuosly and treated like dirt then I think it is fair to get a negetive opinion of the traffic cops.
Robin is in 'Dad' mode.
Quite right when you consider that one of the biggest killers of teenage girls in Britain was their boyfriends’ bad driving.
Sorry Egbert but what utter rubbish is this? What about all the girls that:
1. Are stuck on tik, ecstacy and weed which ends up killing them?
2. Drown
3. Are murdered and raped?
I checked the statistics and yes motor vehicle accidents are 39% to blame for death of teens (15 to 19 years old). To claim that those 40% of the deaths were caused by bad driving on behalf of the boyfriend is your opinion which bears no resemblence to the truth. Teenage girls also drive... Teenage girls also get driven over by teenage female drivers. Please make sure you have proof before you make statements containing predujice and bias like that.
t's such a problem that some Forces have arranged very realistic recreations of nasty accidents and invited young drivers to be present. When you are young you tend to think you are both invincible and immortal! The term "boy-racer" isn't for no reason.
Red Robin. I understand that you have a vast experience of life. But please.
I have grandparents. Four sets of them to be exact. And to drive with them is terrifying. Yet driving with my mate in his Opel. My Mate in his Toyota, my mate in his Merc S Class and my other mate inhis MK2 GTI I do not feel unsafe at all. Older people need to get out of the mindset that teenagers/boy racers cannot drive. We have access to far more electronics and our school systems and what we are educated on has changed vastly. We are different to the teenagers of 20 years ago. My school has had ten years without a single road accident that claimed a death.
Old people are more prone to thinking they are better drivers and I honestly consider older people to be the boy racers. Not us. Why? BEcause we have all played Grand Turismo (Just an example) and all know that if you come around that corner at 120 miles per hour you will crash and die. Whereas older people think because they have been driving for over 50 years they are invincible.
If you have proof that most accidents are caused by teenagers then I will gladly shake hands. If Egbert can prove that boys kill girls in cars. Then fairplay- well done. But as far as I am concerned this topic is much like the Open fog grills topic you and TT have been going on about. Its all about your opinion and when opinion is thrown around without proof then I dont see the point in even expressing it.
In my opinion. If you drive like a fool. You get killed. If you drive like a maniac. You get fined. Irrespective of how old you are or what you are driving.
Mike
