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Re: News release - VW shortens Golf model lifecycle
« Reply #10 on: 19 September 2008, 18:40 »
This has probably been stated elsewhe before, but I have noticed that a part of the "cost cutting" programme involves replacing the excellent Mk5 multi link rear axle, with the mk4 setup on the new car ???? Bizarre move ???

I'll ask our resident expert.  :smug:

TT, your thoughts please, is the new MK6 rear axle a rejigged MK4 as Gareth believes, or a decent cheaper to manufacture upgrade   :rolleyes:

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Re: News release - VW shortens Golf model lifecycle
« Reply #11 on: 19 September 2008, 18:58 »
I still don't see Hyundai and Kia as rivals but perhaps my head is buried in the sand.

Well, according to those turds which present Fifth Gear - of course Kia are rivals to Volkswagen!  :rolleyes:
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Re: News release - VW shortens Golf model lifecycle
« Reply #12 on: 19 September 2008, 18:59 »
This has probably been stated elsewhe before, but I have noticed that a part of the "cost cutting" programme involves replacing the excellent Mk5 multi link rear axle, with the mk4 setup on the new car ???? Bizarre move ???

Where on earth did that BS come from?  The yanks?  :rolleyes:
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Re: News release - VW shortens Golf model lifecycle
« Reply #13 on: 19 September 2008, 19:02 »
This has probably been stated elsewhe before, but I have noticed that a part of the "cost cutting" programme involves replacing the excellent Mk5 multi link rear axle, with the mk4 setup on the new car ???? Bizarre move ???

I'll ask our resident expert.  :smug:

TT, your thoughts please, is the new MK6 rear axle a rejigged MK4 as Gareth believes, or a decent cheaper to manufacture upgrade   :rolleyes:

It should have the identical multi-link rear end from the Mk5 - afterall, the "new Mk6" is actually built on the identical floorpan as the Mk5.  Even the bulkead/firewall is identical!  :rolleyes:
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Re: News release - VW shortens Golf model lifecycle
« Reply #14 on: 19 September 2008, 19:14 »
I still don't see Hyundai and Kia as rivals but perhaps my head is buried in the sand.

Well, according to those turds which present Fifth Gear - of course Kia are rivals to Volkswagen!  :rolleyes:

Own/drive a Kia or Hyundai, I'd rather cut my c0ck off  :sick:

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Re: News release - VW shortens Golf model lifecycle
« Reply #15 on: 19 September 2008, 19:35 »


Own/drive a Kia or Hyundai, I'd rather cut my c0ck off  :sick:

  :grin: i wouldnt go to the same degree as that mate but i understand the point and agree

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Re: News release - VW shortens Golf model lifecycle
« Reply #16 on: 20 September 2008, 00:31 »
So . . . . who do you trust the most?  A dedicated and respected "professional trade-only" publisher, or a sensationalist "consumer" magazine?  :smug:

And no, I don't have any particular dislike of Top Gear - in fact, the automotive world would be a much duller place without them (but we really do need to get rid of that utter shyte, commonly known as Fifth Gear  :angry:).  But would TG mag really have any desire to print what is relatively boring commerce-based issues?  :wink:

No I'm not saying I trust everything in TG - I realise that they mainly print for 'entertainment' purposes as opposed to absolute facts  :wink:. However this article is based around a series of quotes, all of which are from the head of VW product marketing.  What I meant was it is plausible, and that if VW make a statement about why they are changing to the new model 2 years early they're obviously not going to say it is to save themselves money. I dont believe either that Kia and Hyundai posed any threat to the customer base of the Mk V Golf and so I merely believe that this could be a possibility and that the reasons they have stated are simply 'marketing' spin.
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Re: News release - VW shortens Golf model lifecycle
« Reply #18 on: 20 September 2008, 11:31 »
So . . . . who do you trust the most?  A dedicated and respected "professional trade-only" publisher, or a sensationalist "consumer" magazine?  :smug:

And no, I don't have any particular dislike of Top Gear - in fact, the automotive world would be a much duller place without them (but we really do need to get rid of that utter shyte, commonly known as Fifth Gear  :angry:).  But would TG mag really have any desire to print what is relatively boring commerce-based issues?  :wink:

No I'm not saying I trust everything in TG - I realise that they mainly print for 'entertainment' purposes as opposed to absolute facts  :wink:. However this article is based around a series of quotes, all of which are from the head of VW product marketing.  What I meant was it is plausible, and that if VW make a statement about why they are changing to the new model 2 years early they're obviously not going to say it is to save themselves money. I dont believe either that Kia and Hyundai posed any threat to the customer base of the Mk V Golf and so I merely believe that this could be a possibility and that the reasons they have stated are simply 'marketing' spin.

And I actually agree with you.  :wink:  I think it is well known that the Golf 5 was expensive to produce.  However, this is not some kind of knee-jerk reaction - Volkswagen are simply responding to two crucial business areas, economics, and what their competators are doing.  :smug:

And whilst most sane Volkswagen owners would never consider that Kia, Hyundai, and any of the other Asian manufacturers could be seen as direct competators - they (VW) would be foolish not to respond to the media bollox from the likes of VBH and her pond life at Fifth Gear.  And they would also be foolish not to respond to the current economic climate.

I have no doubt that many early Golf 5 owners, who might in normal economic times, have changed for a newer Golf 5 on a regular basis - are now actually not buying them.  But if VW can tempt them with a fresh new model, this should then kick-start sales of Golfs again.  :nerd:
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Re: News release - VW shortens Golf model lifecycle
« Reply #19 on: 20 September 2008, 11:32 »
check this out chaps http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/Volkswagen-Golf/234355/

Yup, that confirms what I stated in an earlier thread about VW wanting to make maintenance on the newly developed engine cheaper.
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