How fast (really) is a remapped ED30?

[Teutonic_Tamer]

Here in SA it's believed that the BWA engine code GTI has 160kw (around 215 hp i think). It has been confirmed by numerous 'dyno's' (what we call rolling roads here). As opposed to the earlier GTI's which had much less. Haven't tested mine so don't know what the deal is.

Sorry, but that is wrong.  The current BWA engine in the standard GTI is officially rated at 147kW, which is 200PS, or about 197bhp.  The only 2.0TFSI engine rated near the 160kW is the BUL engine, rated at 162kW/220PS, and was only fitted in the 2005 Audi A4 DTM edition.

All "standard" GTIs, weather the early AAX, or the current BWA - are all rated at the same 147kW output.

The Edition30 and Pirelli GTIs have the BYD engine, and are rated at 169kW/230PS, whereas the Seat Leon Cupra uses the BWJ engine, rated at 177kW/240PS.

Finally, the "daddy" engine is the BHZ, rated at 195kW/265PS, found under the bonnet of the Audi S3.   

Furthermore, neither "horsepower" (hp), nor "brake horsepower" (bhp) are used by Volkswagen Group to assess the engine output, so by using such figures can be slightly misleading, due to the conversion factor, and the number of significant figures used in said conversion factor.  And ONLY Yanks use "hp"! 

  haha...cool TT You certainly know a lot about this stuff!!
Have a read if you will on the local forums here:
http://www.vwclub.co.za/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=66952&p=642409&hilit=BWA#p642409

There's various other threads on boards here in SA about this topic. Widely believed that the BWA is up on the older ones, even though VW still market it as 147kw.

Joined and posted a response.  Their site is a little slow over here though. 

[Hurdy]

Im after a real world comparison on a remapped edition 30. No one does 0-60 blasts as most roads are 30 that move up into 40mph roads or NSL roads so its more of a 30-70 description i would like. I appreciate they are fast (vtec abuser is a on a ctr forum i use and his is bloody quick from his 1/4 mile evidence lol) but its hard to know as the only thread to see is the 'what have you beat in your gti' one which is a bit rubbish as there are so many variables, you could beat a veyron if the owner had no petrol so didnt try!

I have had a good look on here and have been lurking for ages (i have a sticky in the car care section) and im now quite keen on an edition 30 as my ctr is becoming expensive to mod for little returns, and revving it to 8600 is great fun, but not when im not in the mood and just want an easy overtake! From reading the MK4 forum they sound like they are talking out there arse tbh, im much faster than remapped 1.8t's, but im also modded! So therein lies my problem, i would like comparisons from people who actually owned other fast cars and not just beat them on the road as you never know the condition of the other car as all other cars are different!

Cheers guys 

This is about all I can say on this matter

What do they say. "A picture is worth a thousand words"

[Saint Steve]

The BWA engine using 98RON petrol will produce more than the vw quoted 200bhp...

only by 5-6 horsepower. Mine has always run on 99, and did 233hp , 6 above stated factory, but will increase your torque figure more though.

[Teutonic_Tamer]

The BWA engine using 98RON petrol will produce more than the vw quoted 200bhp...

only by 5-6 horsepower. Mine has always run on 99, and did 233hp , 6 above stated factory, but will increase your torque figure more though.

But you missed my point earlier - Volkswagen do not test for "bhp" - they actually test in kilowatts (kW), and then convert to Pfederstarke (PS), and then the yanks convert into bhp.  And just like the yanks don't know how to tie their shoelaces, they can't work an abacus either! 

And you are crossing wires between the standard GTI engine and the Ed30. 

[R32UK]

And on that yanky note....

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

crazy crazy stuff if you watch the whole film. Dont say i didnt warn you.

[k4ith]

I cant confirm times as i havent timed my car but To anyone thinking of mapping the Ed30 i would do it, they are plenty fast standard even more so tweaked.I will embarass some expensive machinery.What i do like is the diversity of my car.Friday my car was on the shopping run, sunday  1/4 mile day, monday ferrying the family and luggage down to centre parcs for a holiday returning good mpg and at the same time being a track tool too, check some of the other guys - Neilm for example he looks to partial to a trackday or two.I would be amazed to see a ed30 get into 12's on a 1/4 mile though

[Vtec Abuser]

I cant confirm times as i havent timed my car but To anyone thinking of mapping the Ed30 i would do it, they are plenty fast standard even more so tweaked.I will embarass some expensive machinery.What i do like is the diversity of my car.Friday my car was on the shopping run, sunday  1/4 mile day, monday ferrying the family and luggage down to centre parcs for a holiday returning good mpg and at the same time being a track tool too, check some of the other guys - Neilm for example he looks to partial to a trackday or two.I would be amazed to see a ed30 get into 12's on a 1/4 mile though

Couldn't of put it better myself mate..
As for the 12's, I would of said the same before I ran my 13.2. But now with stage 2 (and if necessary remove a back chairs ), I don't think it'll be out of the question really..
Whether it does it on 4mm of tread is another thing though.. 
Have you ran yours again Keith? How did you get on?

[bacillus]

Surely no thread aka slicks would be better.   

[Vtec Abuser]

Surely no thread aka slicks would be better.   

It would if they were a soft compound rubber, yeah. But road tyres... 

[Rob-MK5]

Boooring, Why are people arguing about 10hp etc etc

The Hondas and GTi's are both quick cars but deliver the power very different,