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Offline DJGTi

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Re: Pram wheels / space-saver spares . . .
« Reply #40 on: 14 September 2008, 18:15 »

So this proves that of the two who have checked, two have found a considerable pressure loss.

So come on the rest of you - it's dry out there, get 'em out and get checking.  :rolleyes:  :smiley:

Just checked mine. Was at 41psi. Now corrected :smiley:. Thanks for the heads up.

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Re: Pram wheels / space-saver spares . . .
« Reply #41 on: 15 September 2008, 00:50 »
Very interesting thread - and yes I'll check my pram wheel tomorrow.  Regarding the earlier discussion regarding the low tyre pressure indicator, when I originally picked up the ED30, I had a problem with a valve on the rear passenger side wheel.  As the tyre's were inflated to 38psi, the indicator didn't sound until the tyre reached 28psi I know this as when it first sounded I was nearing a Tesco's garage ... don't know if this helps solve your query.  Secondly, I was told by the stealer that the ED30 comes standard with run flat tyres, my veh was initially fitted with Bridgestone Potenza RE050, and now with the initial bridgestones on the front and new Conti Contact Sport 3's on the rear.  I hate running with mismatched tyres but thats another story all together ... damned maintenance package, any how - are these tyres run flats ??? Conducted some brief reasearch on line and at the mo its a bit inconclusive, I was never really concerned with the spare as I thought in most puncture situations the supposed "run flats" will get me home.

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Re: Pram wheels / space-saver spares . . .
« Reply #42 on: 15 September 2008, 09:31 »
I don't think our cars ever came with run-flat tyres.

The Bridgestones are definetely not run flat.
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Re: Pram wheels / space-saver spares . . .
« Reply #43 on: 15 September 2008, 12:37 »
By my own dizzy admission I had checked them previously at my local filling station but mistook 2,9 Bar as 29psi. Why dont VW just state what the psi should be as well. Currently running at 43 psi front and back... sound about right???

I'm not sure for the R32 (as it is heavier than the GTI), but "recommended" pressures for "normal" loads on the GTI with 18" rims are 35psi all round, and fully laden - F: 38psi, R: 44psi.

But I personally run the GTI with F: 42psi and R: 37psi.

If you get confused over the bar and psi readings, this handy little conversion site will help: http://www.convert-me.com/en/convert/pressure

Just checked the petrol cap for the suggested pressures and are as follows for mine..

Less weight - 2.8 Bar front and back (40psi)

More weight - 3.0 front and 3.2 back (43.5psi & 46.5) approx

Well - what have you set them to?  Bearing in mind that the most up to date advice it to now run your tyre pressures at max load settings all the time!  :nerd:
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Re: Pram wheels / space-saver spares . . .
« Reply #44 on: 15 September 2008, 12:39 »
Will tell my dad to check the GTi tomorrow with regards to this.

Well - did he take your "instructions" ???  :grin:  And what was the pressure?


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Re: Pram wheels / space-saver spares . . .
« Reply #45 on: 15 September 2008, 12:43 »

....Just checked my space-saver - Was 35 psi and is now 61 psi.

Hmmmmmm.  So now your undying faith in your own stealer must be dashed somwhat, because you claimed earlier in the thread that they do check the space saver!  :rolleyes:

I have a copy of the "official" maintenance check list, and they ONLY check the pressures in the four wheels at each corner.  The spare is just annotated as "space saver" on the check list.  :nerd:  :smug:
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Re: Pram wheels / space-saver spares . . .
« Reply #46 on: 15 September 2008, 12:48 »

So this proves that of the two who have checked, two have found a considerable pressure loss.

So come on the rest of you - it's dry out there, get 'em out and get checking.  :rolleyes:  :smiley:

Just checked mine. Was at 41psi. Now corrected :smiley:. Thanks for the heads up.

Thanks for the reply.  :smiley:


So this thread is comprehensively confirming, 100% that all space saver spares which have been checked are all significantly under-inflated.  So anyone else out there who is reading this, please spend a quarter of an hour checking your own.  :rolleyes:

None of us will hopefully need the damned thing, but IF you do, you'll be glad you pumped it up, or you'll be kicking yourself for ignoring my advice!  :smiley:
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Re: Pram wheels / space-saver spares . . .
« Reply #47 on: 15 September 2008, 12:55 »
Very interesting thread - and yes I'll check my pram wheel tomorrow.

Please update us with your findings.  :smiley:

Regarding the earlier discussion regarding the low tyre pressure indicator, when I originally picked up the ED30, I had a problem with a valve on the rear passenger side wheel.  As the tyre's were inflated to 38psi, the indicator didn't sound until the tyre reached 28psi I know this as when it first sounded I was nearing a Tesco's garage ... don't know if this helps solve your query.

That just goes to show how cack the Golf TPMS is - particularly as the "28psi" will be a "hot" pressure, and the "cold" pressure would have been more like 22psi!  :rolleyes:

Secondly, I was told by the stealer that the ED30 comes standard with run flat tyres, my veh was initially fitted with Bridgestone Potenza RE050, and now with the initial bridgestones on the front and new Conti Contact Sport 3's on the rear.  I hate running with mismatched tyres but thats another story all together ... damned maintenance package, any how - are these tyres run flats ??? Conducted some brief reasearch on line and at the mo its a bit inconclusive, I was never really concerned with the spare as I thought in most puncture situations the supposed "run flats" will get me home.

Golfs certainly do not have run-flats.  If they did, why would they also need a spare?  :huh:  Useless fcuking stealers!  :rolleyes:

RE050 as a matched pair on the front, and a matched pair of CSC3s on the rear should be fine.  :smiley:
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Re: Pram wheels / space-saver spares . . .
« Reply #48 on: 15 September 2008, 12:58 »

....Just checked my space-saver - Was 35 psi and is now 61 psi.

Hmmmmmm.  So now your undying faith in your own stealer must be dashed somwhat, because you claimed earlier in the thread that they do check the space saver!  :rolleyes:

I have a copy of the "official" maintenance check list, and they ONLY check the pressures in the four wheels at each corner.  The spare is just annotated as "space saver" on the check list.  :nerd:  :smug:

....I'm confident that they have checked the space-saver's pressure some 25k miles ago but it would appear that either it lost nearly 30 psi (unlikely) or that the guy who did it merely put it to the same 35 psi as all my other tyres. No, I haven't lost faith in my VW dealer as yet.
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Re: Pram wheels / space-saver spares . . .
« Reply #49 on: 15 September 2008, 13:07 »

....Just checked my space-saver - Was 35 psi and is now 61 psi.

Hmmmmmm.  So now your undying faith in your own stealer must be dashed somwhat, because you claimed earlier in the thread that they do check the space saver!  :rolleyes:

I have a copy of the "official" maintenance check list, and they ONLY check the pressures in the four wheels at each corner.  The spare is just annotated as "space saver" on the check list.  :nerd:  :smug:

....I'm confident that they have checked the space-saver's pressure some 25k miles ago but it would appear that either it lost nearly 30 psi (unlikely) or that the guy who did it merely put it to the same 35 psi as all my other tyres. No, I haven't lost faith in my VW dealer as yet.

If he did do that, then the guy is a complete and utter incompetent fcuk-wit, and needs sacking!  :shocked:

It is a very clear, industry-wide standard, that ALL space savers, on all makes of passenger cars are set to an "industry standard" 4.2 bar - which is 61psi.  If the idiot can not tell the difference between a normal roadwheel/tyre, and the ultra skinny shiny black space saver, complete with BFO bright yellow stickers, then they really shouldn't even be working on a bicycle, let alone a car.  The results of his actions could be very dangerous, and lead to fatalities on the roads.
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