Pram wheels / space-saver spares . . .

[RedRobin]

....Yes, TT, you did make yourself clear after I had re-read it a couple of times - Lots of info to absorb!

Yes, it's easy to assume that a better system, like the Audi's, would cost more - Especially as we are used to Audi's always costing more than VW's and so have a perception that it must be because of better this and that being fitted.

So why does VW fit the "shyte one"? Lack of any coordination between various design teams within VAG?



[Charlie Webster is no longer on the telly, so I can probably concentrate better now]

[Teutonic_Tamer]

So why does VW fit the "shyte one"? Lack of any coordination between various design teams within VAG?

I doubt it would be that.  Indeed, the very opposite, in that the various marques would all be exceedingly closely monitored by the overall Volkswagen Group.  Afterall, it just wouldn't do to have a Seat with better quality plastics, and more precise switchgear compared to an Audi! 

No, VAG very carefull monitor their brands/marques, to ensure that each one "fits in" to their (VAG) desired market "segment" - which is completely reasonable.  Any Audi owner would be pi$$ed off if a Å koda Octavia had better leathers, plastics and ergonomics than an A4.  However, the TPMS is a crucial "safety" item, and the same quality should be leveled across all marques.  The ESP systems are a concern too.  Audis use the unrefutable "best" system, which is the Bosch 8.0/ESP, yet VW use a Teves ESP system on the Golf5, which I personally don't find as "refined" - even when compared to the older Bosch 5.7/ESP on my previous S4.

Charlie Webster is no longer on the telly, so I can probably concentrate better now

EEEEwwwwww - She's a minging hound!    Even Mrs T said she was fugly! 

[RedRobin]

....I'm not sure but I thought I read somewhere that the new Mk6 Golf uses a Bosch 8.0.

Btw, today I'll be checking my space-saver's pressure and all my tyres before a long drive at dawn up to TTshop and VWR tomorrow

[Teutonic_Tamer]

....I'm not sure but I thought I read somewhere that the new Mk6 Golf uses a Bosch 8.0.

I hope it does, though I doub't it, because the new Rocco (which is just a Mk6 in drag  ) still uses the Teves one! 

Btw, today I'll be checking my space-saver's pressure and all my tyres before a long drive at dawn up to TTshop and VWR tomorrow

Watching this space for your update!     

[RedRobin]

....I'm not sure but I thought I read somewhere that the new Mk6 Golf uses a Bosch 8.0.

I hope it does, though I doub't it, because the new Rocco (which is just a Mk6 in drag  ) still uses the Teves one! 

Btw, today I'll be checking my space-saver's pressure and all my tyres before a long drive at dawn up to TTshop and VWR tomorrow

Watching this space for your update!     

....The "Mk6 in drag" doesn't have any red lipstick yet!

....Don't hold your breath! I'm not a pro test driver but just a 60yo git driver who enjoys driving. Much of what you'll be consuming will doubtless have large dollops of my enthusiasm laced with placebo sauce. I'll do my best though to write an objective review.

[R32UK]

Think thats bad TT... I was driving round on 29psi on all four tyres till I checked the other week :embarassed:

Tut tut!   

That just goes to show how cack the TPMS is on the Golf!    I really don't know why VW use such cheap and innefective systems, when Audi can use the proper radio-based TPMS. 

....Tut tut! x2

Unfortunately the liklihood is that he didn't bother to use the TPMS.

Huh - The TPMS is always active!      You can not turn it off, like you can with the ESP.

....Yes, but don't you have to set it so it has a datum to subsequently alert a deviation from? In other words, its alert system relies on human input to reset the datum.

Your are correct that it needs to be "set", but this is initially done by the stealer as part of the PDI, and should be reset, again by the stealer on every service where the pressures are checked.  If the "initiation" procedure wasn't carried out, then the TPMS will give a constant alert anyway!  This can all be found in the workshop manuals listed in the sticky. 

So, pedantically, yes, it does need setting - but in reality, once it has been set, that's it - just wait for it to tell you your boots are leaking.  But the trouble is, it don't - unless you are virtually on your rims, and by then, it will be too late.

So my initial conclusion still stands - the system on the Golf is useless    - unlike the system which Audi uses (which monitors the actual pressure inside each tyre). 

TBH your both probably right! Have often wondered what the button next to the ESP did so would sit there and play with it until it made a very satisfying "Ping" sound. Only read up on this recently which originally prompted me to check the tyre pressure to find they were only 29psi.

By my own dizzy admission I had checked them previously at my local filling station but mistook 2,9 Bar as 29psi. Why dont VW just state what the psi should be as well. Currently running at 43 psi front and back... sound about right???

[Teutonic_Tamer]

By my own dizzy admission I had checked them previously at my local filling station but mistook 2,9 Bar as 29psi. Why dont VW just state what the psi should be as well. Currently running at 43 psi front and back... sound about right???

I'm not sure for the R32 (as it is heavier than the GTI), but "recommended" pressures for "normal" loads on the GTI with 18" rims are 35psi all round, and fully laden - F: 38psi, R: 44psi.

But I personally run the GTI with F: 42psi and R: 37psi.

If you get confused over the bar and psi readings, this handy little conversion site will help: http://www.convert-me.com/en/convert/pressure

[R32UK]

By my own dizzy admission I had checked them previously at my local filling station but mistook 2,9 Bar as 29psi. Why dont VW just state what the psi should be as well. Currently running at 43 psi front and back... sound about right???

I'm not sure for the R32 (as it is heavier than the GTI), but "recommended" pressures for "normal" loads on the GTI with 18" rims are 35psi all round, and fully laden - F: 38psi, R: 44psi.

But I personally run the GTI with F: 42psi and R: 37psi.

If you get confused over the bar and psi readings, this handy little conversion site will help: http://www.convert-me.com/en/convert/pressure

Just checked the petrol cap for the suggested pressures and are as follows for mine..

Less weight - 2.8 Bar front and back (40psi)

More weight - 3.0 front and 3.2 back (43.5psi & 46.5) approx

[08micsta]

Will tell my dad to check the GTi tomorrow with regards to this.

OT- What bike do you have TT?

[RedRobin]

....Just checked my space-saver - Was 35 psi and is now 61 psi.