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Re: OT - the "dark side"
« Reply #20 on: 09 September 2008, 23:36 »
Hmmm,

I spotted this on UKMVI's earlier tonight and I must admit it made me do a double take. I do post over there every so often, but like others have said, it has gone downhill contentwise on the MKV section. I think this is probably because I've spammed so much over there about this forum that most of the intelligent discerning types are now over here on a regular basis. :wink:

I can see why you have only done around 60+ posts on there in 20 months membership though TT :grin:
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Re: OT - the "dark side"
« Reply #21 on: 10 September 2008, 00:22 »
"Did you compare this with any "control"?  Did you close off the road, travel along a section of the road, recording your speed, whilst at the same time, measuring the exact mass of the car, the atmospheric pressure, the ambient air temperature, the air humidity, the wind speed, the wind direction - all with the OEM closed grilles fitted???????

And then did you repeat all of the above with your chav-tastic open fog lamp grilles, with the identical measurements from the previous run - same fuel level, same air temp, same humidity, same windspeed, same wind direction?

No - I think not.   In that case, your 1.27mph (was that measured to a recurring 10th significant figure?) means absolutely Jack Schit.  An ant farting at the side of the autobahn could have a greater effect! "

I now have coffe stains all over my laptop and have put a roll of Bounty through it's paces after reading that... LMFAO...  :grin:
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Re: OT - the "dark side"
« Reply #22 on: 10 September 2008, 00:42 »
hmm well i wont be signing up over there as i know my motoring knowledge is limited and dont want my nuts bitten off if i say something incorrect! at the end of the day all that sort of thing is going to achieve is putting off new members  :angry:


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Re: OT - the "dark side"
« Reply #23 on: 10 September 2008, 00:46 »
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"Did you compare this with any "control"?  Did you close off the road, travel along a section of the road, recording your speed, whilst at the same time, measuring the exact mass of the car, the atmospheric pressure, the ambient air temperature, the air humidity, the wind speed, the wind direction - all with the OEM closed grilles fitted???????

And then did you repeat all of the above with your chav-tastic open fog lamp grilles, with the identical measurements from the previous run - same fuel level, same air temp, same humidity, same windspeed, same wind direction?

No - I think not.   In that case, your 1.27mph (was that measured to a recurring 10th significant figure?) means absolutely Jack Schit.  An ant farting at the side of the autobahn could have a greater effect! "


....The problem is though that, no matter whether correct or incorrect regarding the topic, such language is guaranteed to cause a relatively aggressive reaction, T_T. Sorry, but you did ask for honest opinions.

Unfortunately, you do have a tendency to slip into such language and I've had to put up with it in the past in spite of enjoying your turn of phrase. However, I know you better now and don't take offence so easily. Having said this, I'm guilty of all sorts of posting indiscretions too!

By all means strongly disagree with someone but do you really have to tell them their sincere opinion "means absolutely Jack Schit"? I don't think you can expect others to respect your posts if you express yourself in that way, irrespective of whether your facts are right or wrong, or how strongly you feel.

I'm just being very honest here in writing what I think in response to your original question.

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Re: OT - the "dark side"
« Reply #24 on: 10 September 2008, 07:51 »
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"Did you compare this with any "control"?  Did you close off the road, travel along a section of the road, recording your speed, whilst at the same time, measuring the exact mass of the car, the atmospheric pressure, the ambient air temperature, the air humidity, the wind speed, the wind direction - all with the OEM closed grilles fitted???????

And then did you repeat all of the above with your chav-tastic open fog lamp grilles, with the identical measurements from the previous run - same fuel level, same air temp, same humidity, same windspeed, same wind direction?

No - I think not.   In that case, your 1.27mph (was that measured to a recurring 10th significant figure?) means absolutely Jack Schit.  An ant farting at the side of the autobahn could have a greater effect! "


....The problem is though that, no matter whether correct or incorrect regarding the topic, such language is guaranteed to cause a relatively aggressive reaction, T_T. Sorry, but you did ask for honest opinions.

Unfortunately, you do have a tendency to slip into such language and I've had to put up with it in the past in spite of enjoying your turn of phrase. However, I know you better now and don't take offence so easily. Having said this, I'm guilty of all sorts of posting indiscretions too!

By all means strongly disagree with someone but do you really have to tell them their sincere opinion "means absolutely Jack Schit"? I don't think you can expect others to respect your posts if you express yourself in that way, irrespective of whether your facts are right or wrong, or how strongly you feel.

I'm just being very honest here in writing what I think in response to your original question.

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i havent read the UKMKV's post but going on some of the TT posts i have read on here i have to agree with the above  :smiley:

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Re: OT - the "dark side"
« Reply #25 on: 10 September 2008, 09:40 »
....In the cold light of day (the morning after), I'd just like to emphasise that I personally no longer have a problem with your use of language, T_T - In fact it's often very sharply witty and entertaining (though more when directed at others rather than myself!). It's a part of your character - You have the same impatience as my teenage daughter, who is very intelligent and has strong convictions!

I'm trying to be objective and I can see that others may sometimes be made to feel they are ridiculous and/or are losing face among their peer group - Something which most males are very sensitive about, and out come the antlers!

Btw, I don't like that other forum generally and have never found it friendly.

I hope my words are understood as sincere and well-meaning and merely my opinions.

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Re: OT - the "dark side"
« Reply #26 on: 10 September 2008, 10:54 »
I think that for a lot of people that dont "know" TT they will take offense to what he has posted and I feel they should. Why shouldnt they? Thats not for us to decide.

When our Pajero started smelling like burnt tyres from under the bonnet TT helped me out with a few solutions - FYI I still have not figured it out. The car didnt stink after we took it to the beach.... So couldnt source the smell.

The point is that in todays society there are so many ways you can be proved wrong. The thread TT posted in is the perfect example. TT is a retired technician and relating back to the Pajero when I reed TT's suggestions to my dad the first thing he said was- That man certainly knows what he is talking about. This comes from my father who is huge in the oil industry and is a fully qualified airoplane technician and can work on most planes. Not to mention fly them  :evil:

People must respect others opinions. As I have found out recently. Having a degree and a diploma are two different things and I would respect what TT writes over what anybody does as he has the qualification. If you truly think what he says is wrong. Then prove him wrong. Its simple.

I think the important thing to remember when reading any post is to look at it subjectively. Read it and if you take offense read it again. The second time you read it your viewpoint usually changes.

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Re: OT - the "dark side"
« Reply #27 on: 10 September 2008, 11:09 »
I think that for a lot of people that dont "know" TT they will take offense to what he has posted and I feel they should. Why shouldnt they? Thats not for us to decide.

When our Pajero started smelling like burnt tyres from under the bonnet TT helped me out with a few solutions - FYI I still have not figured it out. The car didnt stink after we took it to the beach.... So couldnt source the smell.

The point is that in todays society there are so many ways you can be proved wrong. The thread TT posted in is the perfect example. TT is a retired technician and relating back to the Pajero when I reed TT's suggestions to my dad the first thing he said was- That man certainly knows what he is talking about. This comes from my father who is huge in the oil industry and is a fully qualified airoplane technician and can work on most planes. Not to mention fly them  :evil:

People must respect others opinions. As I have found out recently. Having a degree and a diploma are two different things and I would respect what TT writes over what anybody does as he has the qualification. If you truly think what he says is wrong. Then prove him wrong. Its simple.

I think the important thing to remember when reading any post is to look at it subjectively. Read it and if you take offense read it again. The second time you read it your viewpoint usually changes.

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Re: OT - the "dark side"
« Reply #28 on: 10 September 2008, 11:28 »
Lots of useful info over there, been a member for many years and got me out of the crap in the early days of my mk4 ownership. It can and does happen on every forum though - where a debate/discussion is viewed by some as a direct attack, criticism or argument as if you'd just called their mum a lady of questionable principles.

People misunderstand my manner and humour all the time, but fortunately on here I have a big red badge and they either have to get used to it or sod off :grin:

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Re: OT - the "dark side"
« Reply #29 on: 10 September 2008, 11:32 »
We all just think your a **** toph.

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