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Offline Horney

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Re: DSG woe update
« Reply #110 on: 13 August 2008, 19:10 »
This thread is soo interesting, I'm lovin it!

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Re: DSG woe update
« Reply #111 on: 13 August 2008, 19:32 »
I too have the full maintenance plan. but somehow I can't see them stumping up for a 40k DSG service at 11k miles :lipsrsealed: :sad:
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Re: DSG woe update
« Reply #112 on: 13 August 2008, 20:12 »
RR, at what mileage did you have your remap?

And did you get chance to examine the condition of the old oil and filter from the DSG?  Did the fresh oil make any difference to the quality of the shift changes?  And finally, can you remember how much you were charged for the DSG service?

....Remap Revo Stage1 at 23k miles, now done 51k miles. Mechatronics Module was replaced at about 6k miles.

....Seemed a little smoother but too difficult to realistically tell (placebo effect) and there wasn't a shift change problem previously.

....DSG Service cost me 'nothing' (I had full Maintenance Plan which included it).

....I personally didn't see the old filter nor old oil but was told it was fine.

OK, thanks for the update.  :smiley:
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Re: DSG woe update
« Reply #113 on: 14 August 2008, 09:24 »
Thanks for those pics. My dad was like...wow when he saw them. Stunning gearboxes.

I will give my mate a call today and see what he can come up with.

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Re: DSG woe update
« Reply #114 on: 16 August 2008, 09:33 »
Thanks for those pics. My dad was like...wow when he saw them.

But they are virtually identical to a conventional manual gearbox.  The only difference in the DSG is that it basically uses a double-shaft for the gearbox internals, and a dual clutch!  All the internal "cog" selections are identical to a manual, but they electro-hydro-mechanically controlled from the mechatronics module, along with the clutch.

Stunning gearboxes.

Yup - agreed!  :nerd:

I will give my mate a call today and see what he can come up with.

Any updates?  :smiley:
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Re: DSG woe update
« Reply #115 on: 16 August 2008, 09:34 »
Hurdy, any updates form your end yet?  :smiley:
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Re: DSG woe update
« Reply #116 on: 16 August 2008, 09:44 »
Found it - an interesting official technical document for the BTCC Leon race car, which uses a bog-standard DSG box, but uses specific SEAT Sport ECU, and a limited slip diff.

Linky: http://www.northernsouth.com/SCC/regs/2007_Technical_Manual_New_Leon_Final_published_lowres.pdf

Page 37 onwards for the DSG specific info.  I can't remember if I mentioned this, but the interval for the DSG oil change is every three race meetings, or 1000km, which is just 600 miles!  :shocked:

Maybe Hurdy needs to budget for a DSG oil change for every other tankful of petrol!  :evil:

EDIT: sh!t, that is now a dead link!  Is it possible to upload PDFs onto the forum server, because that really is a very useful and detailed manual?  Specifically, it includes detailed info on how to change the oil in the DSG!  :nerd:
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Re: DSG woe update
« Reply #117 on: 16 August 2008, 12:03 »
Found it - an interesting official technical document for the BTCC Leon race car, which uses a bog-standard DSG box, but uses specific SEAT Sport ECU, and a limited slip diff.

Linky: http://www.northernsouth.com/SCC/regs/2007_Technical_Manual_New_Leon_Final_published_lowres.pdf

EDIT: sh!t, that is now a dead link!  Is it possible to upload PDFs onto the forum server, because that really is a very useful and detailed manual?  Specifically, it includes detailed info on how to change the oil in the DSG!  :nerd:

....Pity about the dead link - Sounds like very interesting and useful info.

The more I learn about the Quaife ATB diff, the more I think it is a very valuable mod on a FWD car such as the GTI/Ed30. It would deffo help Hurdy imo.
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Re: DSG woe update
« Reply #118 on: 16 August 2008, 18:50 »

EDIT: sh!t, that is now a dead link!  Is it possible to upload PDFs onto the forum server, because that really is a very useful and detailed manual?  Specifically, it includes detailed info on how to change the oil in the DSG!  :nerd:

T_T if you have the pdf document and could email it to me I have somewhere to host it if that helps.  :smiley:

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Re: DSG woe update
« Reply #119 on: 16 August 2008, 19:29 »
Hurdy, any updates form your end yet?  :smiley:

Not really although RedRobin's done some good enquiries for me with VW racing. I'm just in a holding pattern at the moment to see what the outcome may be. :smiley:
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