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Offline wolfbane1967

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Re: DSG woe update
« Reply #70 on: 11 August 2008, 21:55 »
Sorry

its 2250euro :wink:
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Re: DSG woe update
« Reply #71 on: 11 August 2008, 21:56 »
 :tongue: :smiley:

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Re: DSG woe update
« Reply #72 on: 11 August 2008, 23:19 »
Im helping a friend here in Sweden who wants to upgrade his dsg box as  he is going for a turbo upgrade on his ed30.I have found a company in Germany that have quoted me this figures for an upgrade

2250euro for upgrade that holds for 580nm
Fitting 400euro

Company is Raeder Motorsport

Drop them an mail like i did,and see if they can send the parts to england, if you cant go to germany as my friend is going to do .They dont have much info at their website but here it is

http://www.raeder-motorsport.de/

Cheers

Thanks for that Wolfbane :smiley:

That works out at about £2200 plus travel expenses (£3k ish) and is about what I was considering spending. I wonder if they would do the Quaife too :undecided: :cool:
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Re: DSG woe update
« Reply #73 on: 12 August 2008, 20:45 »
another bump in the hope T_T might reply one day  :tongue:

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Re: DSG woe update
« Reply #74 on: 12 August 2008, 21:01 »
another bump in the hope T_T might reply one day  :tongue:

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Re: DSG woe update
« Reply #75 on: 13 August 2008, 10:56 »
OK, OK - it's just appeared on my radar  :tongue:

I'll re-read the thread, and post my proper reply!  :wink:
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Re: DSG woe update
« Reply #76 on: 13 August 2008, 11:44 »
Why do VW now have a dry version which at the moment is only being used in the lower powered units?

....Lighter and cheaper IIRC. Not because of any shortcomings of our version as far as I know.

Yup, and its also slightly shorter too, handy for smaller cars like the Polo.

If you get a DSG problem under warranty, the normal VW dealers aren't allowed to be supplied with individual replacement DSG components - The whole lot gets replaced and VW Technical take back the box for a post mortem, I'm told.

Not quite true.  Whilst the stealers wont open up the boxes to replace gear cogs, synchro rings, selecter forks and the like, they are able to replace the clutch packs, and also the mechatronics units and oil coolers.

Hurdy's mods are such that any DSG warranty issues are highly debatable.

True, but warranty or not, these beasts still need repairing, irrespective of who has to pick up the tab.  There will be a good number of DSG cars well out of warranty period, which will inevitably need replacement clutches, in the same way that a normal dry clutch needs replacing - so parts will be available through all the standard channels.

VW Racing who work very closely with VW themselves only run about 245 bhp in their GTI race cars, but they are stripped out. The higher you push the power envelope, the less reliable the car is potentially likely to be.

Absolutley agree (but to be really pedantic, Volkswagen Racing are a wholly owned subsidiary of Volkswagen AG - so effectively the same company  :tongue:).

Importantly, though, VW Racing also mandate a DSG oil change after every second race meeting, so you'd be lucky if the box goes 500 miles between a fresh brew of Pentosin's finest.
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Re: DSG woe update
« Reply #77 on: 13 August 2008, 11:49 »
....I had my Mechatronics Module replaced under warranty and in the early days before remapping my car.

I was asked by VW themselves to write a full report of what happened. So what I reported was that the way I got the car going again was to get out, lock the car, go for a very short walk, come back as if nothing had happened and thinking positive, unlock the car, get in and drive away - Which worked!! Someone on this forum(?) reported that he had been told by VW that if it happened to him again he should.....Lock up and go for a walk before starting over again! :grin:

Yeah, but that is specifically for when the DSG box refuses to play, and all the gear ratio lights are highlighted (or flash, can't remember which  :embarassed:) - and basically wont engage any gears.

I guess I've got a revised Mechatronics Module on mine. A good tuner will limit the torque on a DSG - My advice is to stay away from those who promise high numbers! It's simply not what it's all about imo.

Yup - anyone fancy another <cough> Bluefin or CustomCode <cough> bout?  :evil:   Maybe not!  :grin:
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Re: DSG woe update
« Reply #78 on: 13 August 2008, 11:52 »
Maybe your problems can be solved by a different grease or lubrication in the DSG box itself? Maybe a tackier grease with a higher viscosity or something will reduce slippage and wear?

Eww, nooooo.  A higher viscosity oil will INCREASE clutch slippage!  Not quite what Hurdy needs right now!  :tongue:  :grin:
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Re: DSG woe update
« Reply #79 on: 13 August 2008, 12:02 »
Wont the .:R handle the power better than the front wheel drive GTi?

No, because the clutch still has to transmit the torque from the engine to the gearbox.

Actually, four wheel drive cars can actually put more strain on transmissions and clutches, due to the greater traction and lack of wheelspin.  It is fairly common for RS4s to toast their clutches!  :cry:
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