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Re: Standard GTI Lacking Power
« Reply #40 on: 11 May 2008, 18:45 »
it does look a quality item when compared to the standard item, perhaps we need a group buy on these with fitting as part of the deal  :wink:

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Re: Standard GTI Lacking Power
« Reply #41 on: 11 May 2008, 20:38 »
if the standard DV happened to split would it actually cause any damage to the turbo as the boost would still be released on failure I assume...? I'm thinking about just going with the remap for the time being and if it does eventually fail then get it replaced. I'd imagine the car would still be drivable even if it did split, although at a careful pace to your local tuners ..

Currently checking out JKM's tuning webpage, they do seem to offer some excellent packages, Stage 2 on a K04 looks promising (TBC atm) if stage 2 on the K03 is anything to go by.. :) DV upgrade included if one was to go down that route. Its a nice job to consider all the options...
 

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Re: Standard GTI Lacking Power
« Reply #42 on: 11 May 2008, 20:54 »
trint - Yes, you would lose power and it would be wise to drive like a granny to your tuner or VW dealer ASAP.

JKM (Jim) has done many of the performance mods on my GTI and I honestly cannot recommend them highly enough. It's a small family business of enthusiasts - They even run a Mk2 GTI for their staff to enjoy on track days! He's very honest and caring. They are both Revo and Bluefin agents and Revo reckon he is one of their very best. If I ever fit a Quaife diff, Jim will be the one I'll trust to do it and he won't take it on until he feels he's researched it for the Mk5 and is confident. He'll want to thoroughly test his work before he let's me have my car back - I'm just telling you this as an example.

Just tell him that Robin (VW05 RED) sent you and they'll be even more helpful I'm sure. He fitted my Forge DV. If he thinks you don't need something he'll tell you even if it's something he could sell you. At least, that has been my experience of JKM.
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Re: Standard GTI Lacking Power
« Reply #43 on: 11 May 2008, 21:12 »
to be honest red, I looked them up after reading a number of previous posts you've made about those various mods of yours (fair few and all good) ;). Performance Driven in torquay were also looking good with the APR remap... JKM look like favourites although I'd want to get a few more thousand miles under the belt first as I've just past 1k...

If i mention you at JKM does that mean a few mod points on the Red's JKM loyalty card  :tongue: harhar   

 

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Re: Standard GTI Lacking Power
« Reply #44 on: 11 May 2008, 23:29 »
....It's just goodwill and friendship for me. I don't get any commission and I know that they, especially sister Kate, are very proud of their good customer service record. If I thought they were lacking I would say so. I don't like Kim Collins at QST for example, nor Regal Motorsports.
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Re: Standard GTI Lacking Power
« Reply #45 on: 12 May 2008, 10:26 »
yeah apologies for that red, I was just pulling your arm. I really appreciate all whats been said about JKM especially as it gives you peace of mind on just how passionate they seem in getting the best of out their customers motors rather than just aim for profit. If only some stealerships took a leaf....

...right then, dilema-time on what stage to go for or should it be the quaife or big brake upgrade first..??   will just have to see what suits my driving better over the coming months me thinks.... :cool:

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Re: Standard GTI Lacking Power
« Reply #46 on: 12 May 2008, 11:07 »
....It's up to you of course, but I'd be more inclined to go for a remap and big brakes before considering a Quaife. The Quaife is only going to be an advantage when you are either driving enthusiastically through the twisties and roundabouts (also slightly but not hugely helpful in greasy road conditions) or if you are doing track days (where it will seriously shave lap times and also big brakes will save significant lap time if you keep it all smooooth).

If, for example, you go for a Revo Stage1 you can then see if you want a Stage2 and it will only cost about 50 squid to upgrade. BUT!!!!....To get the benefit of Stage2 you will definitely need a Hi-Flow/Turbo-back performance exhaust such as a Milltek and also an improved air intake such as a Carbonio (if you want to keep the stock engine cover etc.). Then you will want to improve the suspension...............It's a slippery slope!! Again, I would do the suspension before the Quaife - Big brakes and suspension mods all work together in the package.

There's no doubt in my mind that when your car starts accelerating faster due to a remap, brakes become more important. I'd rather have 100% reliable braking and not need it than need it and not have it. The stock brakes are very good but the AP's are everything that ALL the professionals and magazines say they are. You really have to take care that someone isn't too close behind you unless they have a performance car with equally serious braking power. AP's are like remapping your brakes to Stage3!!!

As I've reported many times, my VW dealer is exceptionally good and caring and even doesn't charge me for some small jobs. They know that I know a lot of people and say what I think! Rural businesses rely much more on word of mouth. :smiley:
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Re: Standard GTI Lacking Power
« Reply #47 on: 12 May 2008, 19:13 »
to be honest red, I hadn't even given the suspension a thought as I thought the chassis/struts on the golf were top notch when pressing on. But then I suppose when you're getting more out of the car with any number of mods I see how you're pushing the limits on standard.

This slippery slope looks like an exciting time (albeit expensive one especially with other hobbies/commitments). Being able to afford only one upgrade at a time may just let me appreciate what it brings to the party :) It looks as if you almost have all the mods going on your gti red

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Re: Standard GTI Lacking Power
« Reply #48 on: 13 May 2008, 10:43 »
I think the S4 is your biggest problem here, I have gone from a Gti to an R32 and now an S4, the S4 is in a different league power wise.
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Re: Standard GTI Lacking Power
« Reply #49 on: 13 May 2008, 10:43 »
....As you get more power to play with, you discover what parts of the car can be enhanced/improved. It's doing things like driving someone else's modded GTI (don't do it!! it's fatal!!) which doesn't help!! Acceleration, torque, brakes, suspension, are all part of the overall handling. I did my mods very slowly over a long time period and have enjoyed appreciating what each mod has brought.

This is the history so far of my sliding around on the slippery slope of modding :- http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=76814.0 (it needs updating!!)

The Mk5 GTI is well known for its excellent chassis and has good suspension but any production car is manufactured to meet very varying international requirements and to a competitive cost in its market. Yes, VW could easily have used Jetta anti-roll bars or Brembo brakes but it would have cost more.

Cars like the Scooby and Evo are the only ones which come already fully modded (excluding Porsches and supercars etc).
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