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NewGolf

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Standard GTI Lacking Power
« on: 09 May 2008, 20:11 »
Ok here goes a whinge!
Went out for a long drive today, after cleaning the car and doing some Vag Com bits for the boot opening from remote key. No error codes present.
Stuck in a line of traffic and getting fed up as a scooter thing was behind a hired car making it hard to overtake both at once. At last, a clear straight bit of road with no cars coming the other way I floored it in sport mode.
The car in front was doing about 15-25 mph, and even though I'd floored it, it just seemed to take forever to get past.
1st gear seems to rev out to the red line and possibly beyond, as if you were in a manual and had gone past the power band? If that makes any sense. Second came up and it went ok-ish after that but nothing to push you back in the seat. The car was light, only me and a front seat passenger in. 98RON Super Unleaded in and 14 degrees outside on the display.

I think some of my whinge is due to the fact I used to drive an S4 which if you wanted to ovetake and floored it from low RPM it would launch like a scalded cat! I may be missing the torque as I dont really want to have to rev the nuts out of a car to get some power out of it.

Ok so now its on 1000 miles or near as, and if I'm going to keep it then it has to improve powerwise asap! Its going to France soon to do about 2k miles so when it returns then it looks like a remaps 1st on the list.

Is a remap really noticable powerwise, especially torque as thats what I feel is lacking? I've seen the power graphs from Superchip$ but just want to know how you feel about yours. As I live away from mainland UK then it looks like it'll have to be a bluefin. I want to keep the car as OEM looking as possible so I doubt an exhaust will be on the list, but is there anything else I can do to get the power up higher?

Thinking back, I should have ordered the ED30, but the GTI felt ok at the time.  :sad:

Especially if its as powerful as you ED30 owners keep harking on about!  :wink:





Offline gazbutmk5gti

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Re: Standard GTI Lacking Power
« Reply #1 on: 09 May 2008, 20:28 »
yes a remap makes a massive difference to a regular GTi, both in terms of torque and power. Its the torque which is really improved IMO, I had my last GTi APR remapped and it was brilliant loads of low down and midrange grunt, although it did run out off puff a little at the top end, but I put this down to the smaller KO3S turbo.
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Re: Standard GTI Lacking Power
« Reply #2 on: 09 May 2008, 20:29 »
your car needs a remap, its suffering from standarditis  :laugh:

ps dont worry i thought the standard ed30 was slow coming from a remapped ST
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Re: Standard GTI Lacking Power
« Reply #3 on: 09 May 2008, 20:33 »
with only 1k miles on the clock you engine will still be tight so get that trip to france out of the way and I bet it'll feel far more lively.
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Re: Standard GTI Lacking Power
« Reply #4 on: 09 May 2008, 20:33 »
I think you are both right, its just not "pokey" enough!

Thanks guys its going to happen after my hols. The car will be a bit looser then as well as its going to get thrashed!

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Re: Standard GTI Lacking Power
« Reply #5 on: 09 May 2008, 20:48 »
I found this for a while in my ed30 (dsg), just seemed to run out of puff and felt flat but ive been making a point in getting it up to temp and having a good wee blast to loosen it up. It started getting better as the days went by but after a recent trip to knockhill on a track evening, i had 2 hours of uninterupted track hooning! (only 10 cars in total appeared) and it really has transformed although it still only has 2900miles on the clock it really does press on MUCH better!

As for remap being first on your list... First thing on my list is a brake upgrade :P , as big as they are standard they just dont last! :( Only downfall on the car i could find, lasted longer than i thought they would before fading mind you.

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Re: Standard GTI Lacking Power
« Reply #6 on: 09 May 2008, 21:05 »
I had a Bluefin map on my ED30 which I took off when it went in for the rear bumper to be sorted... I've yet to put to back on and it feels very sluggish and the fuel economy isn't as good.
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Offline Rob-MK5

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Re: Standard GTI Lacking Power
« Reply #7 on: 09 May 2008, 23:00 »
I would double check the DV valve, then go for a remap makes the car how it should  be,

cant comment how an ED30 would be, but im more than happy with a mapped GTi goes fine for road use,


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Re: Standard GTI Lacking Power
« Reply #8 on: 09 May 2008, 23:07 »
Remapped GTI makes a nice difference and is very suited to the car I feel, Ed30 just gives that little bit more when remapped.

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Re: Standard GTI Lacking Power
« Reply #9 on: 10 May 2008, 08:41 »
There is a big difference obtained by remapping a standard GTi, I had mine done recently with a Revo Stage 1 and was very impressed.

Makes the car a lot more responsive, the torque improvement is the most noticeable.
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