our street in north west london seems to be a mecca for vw golfs, mostly gtis, so we have 2 mk5s already. I still havent driven one, but can well believe the handling improvements, yet i am finding it hard when studying them closely to get excited by their looks. The bonnet to roof profile smacks of 307/MPV i.e. the latest PC styling which i am not a fan of. the mark 4 in my opinion was visually more distracting especially from the back, and parked next to my mark 2 16v, i am still convinced mine is the better looker.................(cue irate new mk5 owners). I am v prepared to shut up when the full gti version turns up though.