getting more oversteer out of my vr6

[Stu.750]

stiffen the front a touch , soften the rear  swap the front tyres for the back ones run a touch higher pressure ,

 And get yourself out on some track days and get tuition you carry on like that on the roads and someone will get hurt 

 *EDIT*
 

      Your driving a car with a massively overweighted engine on the front of it , not matter how much you try the lump of pig irion in the front will dictate where the car is goin 

 My advice - Go buy a 205 gti for FWD oversteer fun

[hobbiniho]

lift off oversteer is what killed my last car an audi coupe 

[mk2mark]

2 points. Oversteer isnt oversteer. It can be progressive ("good") or snappy (bad), or anywhere in between. You're not going to get progressive oversteer on that car. There's way more to it than that, but that's as much as you need to know.

2nd point. If you're asking a question like that what you need to learn is not how you can get more oversteer, but more like suspension geometry fundamentals. Get a book off amazon, you'll enjoy it.

[Horney]

Lift off oversteer is much more unstable than power oversteer, and besides which is much slower than just taking the corner properley in the first place 

Not actually true in every case. John "Smokey" Rhodes pioneered lift off oversteer in British Touring in minis back in the 60's. He found controlled lift off oversteer allowed him to scrub off speed and corner faster than using the more traditional methods of brake, turn in, hit apex, accelerate out.

Not many pics on the net of that era but here's the man himself showing where he got his nickname from.



Nick

[Uruk Hai]

I agree with what your saying but you cant realy compare a Mini being driven by a pro driver and on a track to MK3 Golf being driven by a "normal" driver on the road, it only takes one mistake or miss-judgement   

[Horney]

I agree with what your saying but you cant realy compare a Mini being driven by a pro driver and on a track to MK3 Golf being driven by a "normal" driver on the road, it only takes one mistake or miss-judgement  

You're right, I was just commenting on the physical aspects. I learn't to control lift off oversteer when I had my minis and have found that experience ha sllowed me to carry it over to other cars. Was pretty easy in the MKII, nice and contolable. Tried it in my gran's fiesta and it was not fun at all. Not tried the passat and I have a feeling it may well be impossible unless it's a wet day.*

Nick

* I do not in anyway condone the use of these techniques on public roads, wet carparks are where it's at!

[sesterfield]

Lift off oversteer is much more unstable than power oversteer, and besides which is much slower than just taking the corner properley in the first place 

Not actually true in every case. John "Smokey" Rhodes pioneered lift off oversteer in British Touring in minis back in the 60's. He found controlled lift off oversteer allowed him to scrub off speed and corner faster than using the more traditional methods of brake, turn in, hit apex, accelerate out.

As the other guy said, there's a big difference between a 60s mini and a vr6!  I doubt it's doing much for his tyres either!

[Len]

Nutcase!

My advice to you mate is learn how to drive your vr6 smoothly! You will get around a bend much faster than trying to get the back end out!

[Diamond Hell]

Bloody hell and I thought I was a little judgemental from time to time.

All the guy's asked is how he can adjust how his car handles, which is a fairly reasonable question to ask on a motoring forum.

He's not asking you to make judgements about his driving skill, or behaviour on roads or tracks.

The biggest problem, as already outlined, is the pig-iron out front - you've got the wrong car for it to handle well.  It's designed to sit on der Autobahn really.

Fit a stiffer rear ARB and see how you go, but really get a car renowned for handling rather than one that's infamous for not handling (yes, that's me judging your choice of car, rather than your driving).

[Khare]

mcdonalds trays under rear wheels 

  nice one!

Why would you want oversteer? slightest oversteer and the blue lights come on. Just go to a car park on a wet day and go mental. Dont do it on the road.