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Offline iball

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Best Tyres?
« on: 13 April 2004, 08:06 »
The previous owner of my car had scrimped on the choice of tyre they had used on the car, and every corner has a different make of tyre at different levels of tread. One of the fronts is badly worn (read as bald) and one of the rears will need replacing in the not too distant future.

Anyway, I was going to use this opportunity to get 2 new decent tyres and get them put on the front and take the one decent tyre on the front and get it put with the other decent tyre on the rear (if that makes sense!)

So can anyone recommend a brand of tyre that's good for use with the 16v? And possibly give me an idea of cost. They're 205/50/15. I've had Yoko A539's on previous cars they were good but didn't last too long, I've also had Dunlop Sports on a car and they were alright, but a bit iffy in the wet. Heard good things about the Toyo proxes, but also heard they don't last too long. So any suggestions would be good, want a tyre that's going to last and provide decent performance in the wet and dry.

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Offline jte

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Re:Best Tyres?
« Reply #1 on: 13 April 2004, 09:06 »
Had Goodyear Eagle F1s on the front of the 16v for two months now and they are great in all conditions.  Can't comment on wear yet though.  But they look brand new after two months.

Cost ?62 each from www.mytyres.co.uk  -  205/50/15

Got them fitted at local tyre place for ?5 per tyre.
« Last Edit: 13 April 2004, 09:07 by jtevr6 »


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Re:Best Tyres?
« Reply #2 on: 13 April 2004, 18:22 »
I've got F1's on mine and theyre great, have only done about 3000m on them so cant say much about the wear, other than they're still like new, and I'm very confident with them.

The Missus has F1s on her 206GTi, she's coverd 27,500 and only now do the fronts need changing. Rears are still fresh.

Each to thier own with tyres, but hope that helps.

Offline Cupra Turbo

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Re:Best Tyres?
« Reply #3 on: 14 April 2004, 15:57 »
Toyo Proxes T1-S

Cant fault em.

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Offline Bodhi

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Re:Best Tyres?
« Reply #4 on: 15 April 2004, 21:54 »
I'd always go with Michelin tbh, as they typically offer the best grip and wear rates. Not entirely sure if Pilot Sports can be had in GTi size, but I have a set of Pilot Exaltos on the front and they have been superb. Very little wear after 10,000 miles at least (my old car would be most of the way through a set of Pirelli P-700 Z's by now), dry grip is excellent and wet grip is out of this world, certainly several notches above the Contis that came with the car. Plus, putting them on the front can help liven up the rear end a tad, especially in the wet. If oversteer isn't your thing, for chrissakes put them on the back.

Which brings me to another point. New tyres should always be put on the front axle. My father was at a very interesting demo of this point, where the tyre company he works for (it's not the same one as the brand I always recommend, honest :)) put two new tyres on two separate Golf GTi's (mk3's aswell, which makes it all the more pertinent in this case). On one, the new tyres were put on the front, the back on the other. The cars were then driven round a circular track, and the max speed the cars obtained before spinning out was measured. With new on the back the Golf circulated at around 40-45mph, washing wide occasionally, but not doing anything too hairy. They then took out the car with news on the front and partly worn on the back. The test driver managed 25mph before the car span out of control.

Now when I came to get 2 new tyres, due to logistics they had to go on the front (Kwik-fit's driveway fitment service, along with two different brands on the rear axle - switching these to the front could have produced all kinds of torque-steer shenanigans -enough to make a Focus RS owner weep). I noticed a change in the balance of the car immediately. The nose was much keener to dive into corners, however as I said the back end got a bit livlier - i remember having a huge moment going into a puddled 50mph right hander, where the fronts, true to what they said on the tin, cut straight through the surface water, whilst the backs aquaplaned like their lives depended on it. Martin Brundle would take great pleasure in declaring it a tank slapper. And now, whenever the car slides it's the back end to go first (unless stamping on the throttle is involved - amazing, a slow car that can push its nose out under power. Whatever next....  ::))

Dunno how much help that is, as I've effectively told you to put them on both axles, but certainly bear it in mind. If opposite lock scares you, put them on the back, if yhou want to spice up your spirited drives, especially in the wet, stick em on the front.

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Re:Best Tyres?
« Reply #5 on: 16 April 2004, 09:24 »
^Interesting points there.  I've got new f1s on the front and plenty of tread on p6000s on the rear and the back end always behaves very well as you would expect.

So if your rears are going to be different brands, tread and age maybe you should change all four if you've got the cash.


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Offline Cupra Turbo

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Re:Best Tyres?
« Reply #6 on: 16 April 2004, 11:18 »
curious ... we've all said different things ... and Im sure their all good... my brother swears by Michelin Exalto's ... I like my Toyo's ...

but im sure u need to try em for yourself ... all "premium" tyres are good ... but od u really need to THAT good? do u hit corners at high speed? ...

Im sure any of the above will suffice...

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Re:Best Tyres?
« Reply #7 on: 16 April 2004, 12:06 »
Yes you do need very good tyres, its not all about tankin it around corners at high speed.

You get what you pay for - just like Toyos are poor mans F1s - only joking, dont bite!!

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Re:Best Tyres?
« Reply #8 on: 16 April 2004, 17:49 »
Don't buy Avons - I did and they are sh*te.

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Re:Best Tyres?
« Reply #9 on: 16 April 2004, 23:19 »
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Yes you do need very good tyres, its not all about tankin it around corners at high speed.

Yes I agree .. but Toyo Proxes T1-s, Michelin Exalto, F1's etc etc are all very good and u wont notice the difference through everyday driving between each of those.

But for the love of god DONT put cheapo tyres on...

eg, Kumho, Hankook etc ... urrgghh all the lads with big alloys near me have those cos the tyres for 17/18" wheels (good tyres) cost alot..and they are just bothered about the wheel .. LOL ...

?900 on alloys and 50p on tyres LMAO

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