your opinions on the DSG?

[KentBladeboy]

The same argument has raged within BMW since the introduction of the SMG, and now the DCT will no doubt provoke the same debate we are having here, although I think tuning potential and fears over max torque are not worrying BMW, as its putting out a bit more than most Mk5 Golfs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmaAxzTqh8g

[ChrisED30]

I bought my ED30 on the grounds that the car would be getting mild modded and remapped. I now have the full Miltek, DV, Air filter and then remap. Are you sure your Automatic DSG is faster 

[R32UK]

Its only faster 0-60 using lauch control. Aside from that I have seen no conclusive evidence that its faster up and running. Unless anyone can find any vids or stats??

[MikeGTI]

Its only faster 0-60 using lauch control. Aside from that I have seen no conclusive evidence that its faster up and running. Unless anyone can find any vids or stats??

The extract below has been taken direct from VW's website.

Twin electronically-controlled shafts manage gear selection. When the lever is slotted into Drive, one shaft selects first gear. At the same time, the second shaft puts the next gear on standby.
No sooner has the box changed to second, than the original shaft readies third and so on.
Because the actions of the two shafts overlap, not only are gearshifts incredibly smooth, they are also unbelievably fast: each change takes less than four-hundredths of a second.

It is not rocket science to understand why the DSG makes for quicker accleration, unless you can change gear manually in less than 0.04 seconds then you will have had your foot off the accelerator and therefore been losing momentum for longer than the DSG driver. If the manual car driver can change gear quicker than 0.04 seconds at the optimum point everytime then his manual car will be quicker. Afraid I don't have any Youtube videos recorded under a strictly controlled and fair environment for you, I'll just have to hope that the laws of physics is conclusive enough evidence for you.
 

[duffy78]

You canna change the laws of physics jim   


this could go on and on!

[RedRobin]

....I can't be arsed to look through all 9 pages of this thread to check out whether this comparison DSG vs Manual vid has already been posted, but although it's not scientific it's very good and also a great laugh - Enjoy!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmMNRQ1GJ3o&NR=1

[MikeGTI]

I resisted posting anything for the first 8 pages 

But R32UK's constant negativity wore me down in the end. Although I did manage to resist commenting on the two 3.2 Quattro A3's I owned both with DSG when he played the 3.2's dont need DSG card.

I have seen the vid before and its great, though I'm sure R32UK would like to point out he uses launch control and that doesn't count 

[joesgti]

well i find it all funny, this thread will go on forever as different people have differnt preferences. so people prefere the "auto" box and some manual......end of it!!!

although i do find it funny that all DSG owners feel the absolute need to defend their decision on the auto box. if its a good system then use it and dont try and defend it, and then one day it may take over and the manual gearbox will be foggoten about, untill then im loving using manul.

[mr magoo]

well i find it all funny, this thread will go on forever as different people have differnt preferences. so people prefere the "auto" box and some manual......end of it!!!

although i do find it funny that all DSG owners feel the absolute need to defend their decision on the auto box. if its a good system then use it and dont try and defend it, and then one day it may take over and the manual gearbox will be foggoten about, untill then im loving using manul.

You're spot on IMHO on the first para

However - people (myself included) only seem to 'defend' themselves over the DSG when under 'attack' from manual drivers! You don't hear that many DSG drivers taken the p out of manual owners ...

It's a bit like arguing over the best colour! Who knows, and ultimately, who cares??!

[RedRobin]

well i find it all funny, this thread will go on forever as different people have differnt preferences. so people prefere the "auto" box and some manual......end of it!!!

although i do find it funny that all DSG owners feel the absolute need to defend their decision on the auto box. if its a good system then use it and dont try and defend it, and then one day it may take over and the manual gearbox will be foggoten about, untill then im loving using manul.

....I think it was R32UK who challenged DSG and consequently brought out DSG owners in defence.

In any case, the original poster asked for DSG opinions and that's what we are discussing.