your opinions on the DSG?

[Phil mcavity]

laserblue, trust me, once youve tryied it, you wont go back to manual, just think you can floor it round a corner or approach a roundabout, and not worry about changing gear or letting go off the wheel. the DSG  does it all for you, its not the same as a conventunal AUTO box. 110 times better, slide it in S mode and oh boy watch it fly!!. Ive not even mentioned lauch control!. You can crack sub 6.5 to sixty easy. Alot faster then a manual, any enough to worry those Manual R32 owners in the dry!  at half the cost as well! 

[R32UK]

I think the words easy say it all!! Where is the fun in not being able to select you own gear as you approach a round about??

If you look back through some of the previous DSG posts you will see that aside from all the problems encountered by DSG owners, you just not in FULL control of the gearing despite what they tell you. Its your choice, but mine allows me to drive my car without predicting what gear i would like. Dont get me wrong it has its benifits... but driving pleasure is not one of them in my book.

p.s. A manual R32 is still quicker than any GTi

[jonathonturner]

dsg rocks..manual is pointless and old fashioned.

p.s r32uk..you keep thinking that mate

manual r32, wrong golf with the wrong gearbox

[Phil mcavity]

I think the words easy say it all!! Where is the fun in not being able to select you own gear as you approach a round about??

If you look back through some of the previous DSG posts you will see that aside from all the problems encountered by DSG owners, you just not in FULL control of the gearing despite what they tell you. Its your choice, but mine allows me to drive my car without predicting what gear i would like. Dont get me wrong it has its benifits... but driving pleasure is not one of them in my book.

p.s. A manual R32 is still quicker than any GTi

Dont be so sure R32UK!!,  you might be surprised that a GTi DSG will crack  0-60 in the same 6.4 with launch control,and has identical time 0-100mph. R32 is only better around in the wet and twisty back roads.Straight line is closer then you think.Id rather be in the R in the wet thats for sure!.
 Laserblue, you need to go and draw your own conclusion on the DSG, ive read today the new Focus Rs is gonna have the option of DSG fitted aswell.
reliability is excellent, i could count on one hand the ammount of faults experianced with owners on here.More are for praise then anger.Its light years ahead then other auto systems. Go test it, and report your findings..........
it is your duty to the forum!  

[R32UK]

I was under the assumption that the GTi has a 0-60 time of 7.2secs. and with DSG 6.8 secs??

The R32 manual is 6.5 secs although in some of the tests they have seen well under in this using a manual.

[RedRobin]

I think the words easy say it all!! Where is the fun in not being able to select you own gear as you approach a round about??

If you look back through some of the previous DSG posts you will see that aside from all the problems encountered by DSG owners, you just not in FULL control of the gearing despite what they tell you. Its your choice, but mine allows me to drive my car without predicting what gear i would like. Dont get me wrong it has its benifits... but driving pleasure is not one of them in my book.

....I don't agree - I drive my DSG GTI in Manual nearly all of the time (at least 95%) and I select any gear I want whenever I want with the paddleshifters . It's always a great pleasure driving.

[orca]

I was under the assumption that the GTi has a 0-60 time of 7.2secs. and with DSG 6.8 secs??

The R32 manual is 6.5 secs although in some of the tests they have seen well under in this using a manual.

Yeah, I'm not sure how they calculate the official times.  Is the DSG 6.8 seconds 0-60 without launch control?  How much difference is there really with launch control?  I think VW Driver magazine got 6.3 seconds when they reviewed the DSG GTI way back in 2005.  I'll have to give launch control a try one day.

And by the way DSG rocks!  You are in total control when you are driving it in manual mode!  It took a bit of time to get used to it.  I even thought I'd made a mistake getting DSG at first but now that I have "mastered" it, there is no going back to manual.  Having paddles adds to the driving experience and makes you feel like a racing driver.

[Phil mcavity]

Your correct orca about the sub 6.3 dsg GTi, hurdys went 5.66 as standard, his is the ed30 but will put is .6 quicker to sixty then an GTi dsg, so yes the book speed stated is inacurate, mines hit 6.9 on an uphill run and rough road, its still new, and will get quicker once its lossened up with a few more miles under its belt.
There is a video on youtube with a dsg R32 and a GTi dsg both standard, and the GTi just edged it!! . i posted the video a couple of weeks ago on a thread. 

[JonnyG]

Just wanted any of you guys who have a GTI DSG to give your comments on how it performs day to day?

LaserBlue, I had a DSG GTi and now have a manual Ed30

Personally I much prefer the DSG over the manual for day to day driving.  It has so many variations that it will always suit whatever mood your in and whatever road you're on. 

Don't mistake a DSG for an auto,  as it is far from that !  It has two clutches and no torque converter ... giving super quick gear changes and if you believe VW,  possibly better fuel consumption     

In a queue of traffic   - just stick it in auto mode and creep forward, no clutch required 
Away from the lights  - stick it launch control for a quick getaway, and the 1st to 2nd change is so slick you leave a manual GTi behind 
On the twisties         - stick it in manual and use the paddles, leaving you fully in control
Want to maintain peak revs  - stick it in S mode or Manual
Want to take it easy           - stick it in Auto mode
Want a quick downchange in Auto mode - quick flick on the left paddle
Want to overtake with full beans - just floor the accelerator whatever mode your in ! 
Want to use your gear stick like a manual - use the up and down shift with the gearstick instead of the paddles

I could go on and on ....

....... it's the future gearbox here today  ... and being rapidly copied now by other manufacturers
 

[Dubbin]

Like most of the other posts i'm fully converted to DSG. However one small gripe. The paddles are rather small and as they are on the steering wheel itself they can "get lost" when the wheel is turned more than 45 deg. In this situation you have to dive for the stick rather than the paddles.

Does anyone know of an aftermarket longer paddle upgrade?