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Offline Bodhi

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Re:0-60 times golf3 20 8v
« Reply #80 on: 16 April 2004, 15:25 »
whats a van der walls force then?? fancy way of saying friction to make you look clever i say.
and its because of the suspensions characteristics that the rear inside wheel comes off the ground, so it has everything to do with it.

handling doesnt help you go quickly?? haha you are full of facts bodhi

handling charactreistics are different in every case and what they do when the limit is overstepped is different too, in every case. i think you will find the better the suspension set up, the less likely you will be able to correct it if you overstep it, because the grip will just 'snap' and you will under/oversteer and crash, but the limit is far above that of a standard suspension setup so you can go a lot quicker.



Like I said, handling decides what happens if you go too quickly, whether you can survive over the limit or not. A Saxo, with it's trailing arm rear supension (known to be pretty crap), will snap oversteer you into a hedge if you so much as waiver on the throttle close to the limit. A Clio 182 or Mk 3 Gti, with their more advanced and by all acounts better rear set ups will give you a much more controllable rear end drift, allowing you to play with the throttle, changing the car's attitude through the corner (please, try this on a roundabout or other clear sighted corner, the conseqeunces of round a blind corner sideways don't bear thinking about.) so you can exit the corner faster - helping you travel faster. If a car has crap suspension like the Saxo (and to a lesser degree it's sister car, the 106 GTi), this tactic will simply leave you facing the wrong way. However, until the grip has been breached, that's what dictates cornering speed, not the car's handling.

P.S. van der Waals forces are the forces which produce friction. Friction is the byproduct of these things doing their bit.
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Re:0-60 times golf3 20 8v
« Reply #81 on: 16 April 2004, 15:35 »
So which magazine did you copy that out of Bodhi?
You clearly NO NOTHING about cars as anyone that does wouldn't ask how to get an ashtray out.
DUMBASS.
By the way ALL mk3 stock suspensions are crap, everyone should know that. The 8v gti is probably the worst of the lot.
Easy to change that, fit an aftermarket suspension, get better handling and better grip.
But you wouldn't know how to do that because all your technical knowledge is copied out of magazines.
Go back to reading evo and pretending you know what you are on about.
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Re:0-60 times golf3 20 8v
« Reply #82 on: 16 April 2004, 16:01 »
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Re:0-60 times golf3 20 8v
« Reply #83 on: 16 April 2004, 16:06 »

Im pretty sure the 8v and 16v has the same part numbers for the suspension setup.

you keep doing this.. you dont know.. so why even go there?

you open yourself up to sh!t..

ps... "i'm pretty sure you're wrong"  ;)
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Re:0-60 times golf3 20 8v
« Reply #84 on: 16 April 2004, 16:09 »
I will venture the vague assumption that the 16v had different suspension to the 8v ;)


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Re:0-60 times golf3 20 8v
« Reply #85 on: 16 April 2004, 16:17 »
well look at it this way... if the 16v engine is a heavier.. using the same suspension would be pretty dumb wouldn't it...
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Re:0-60 times golf3 20 8v
« Reply #86 on: 16 April 2004, 23:14 »
Not much heavier

8v - 1032kg
16v - 1110kg

... plus the 16v had traction control system and a few other gizmo's...

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Re:0-60 times golf3 20 8v
« Reply #87 on: 16 April 2004, 23:17 »
yeah but its still gonna be different. overseer is right

stop quoting bullsh!tty figures that mean nothing relevant black_gti >:(
« Last Edit: 16 April 2004, 23:28 by veedubgti16v »

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Re:0-60 times golf3 20 8v
« Reply #88 on: 16 April 2004, 23:20 »
Bullsh!t figures?? thats the f*cking weight of the car u prick.

how is that defined as a bullsh!t figure?


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Re:0-60 times golf3 20 8v
« Reply #89 on: 16 April 2004, 23:21 »
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