S3 vs Leon FR Cupra vs ED30

[Vtec Abuser]

I think the reason the ED30 didn't do as well as the other two on the track is down to the brakes (as they say they were getting a lot of fade).
Can't say I was very impressed with there test either (S3 weighs 600kilos heavier according to them  ), especially when they slated the looks of the Ed30 against the other two. Even though they had a bog standard 5 dr red ED30 and had probably the best looking Cupra (Added spoiler, wheels, side skirts and splitter) and S3 (RS4 wheels) i've ever seen. Both in white... 
Just reading the test I got the sense that they weren't quite as professional as say the boys from Evo.. Especially when they said and I quote "Dave and I jumped straight from the Audi in to the Golf, which had been nicely warmed up (HAMMERED) by Elliot"...  Bit of heat soak maybe?

[joesgti]

i raced one of those fr's, my friend has one but im sure its a diseal??!! i p!ssed all ove him, all day long!! look smat as hell thow, when i was looking at the front of his car through my mirror it looked ver very sweet from the front, i dont mind the 5door either because they have some funny handles and the doors took up.....somehow  looks  anyways   

[neg]

i raced one of those fr's, my friend has one but im sure its a diseal??!! i p!ssed all ove him, all day long!! look smat as hell thow, when i was looking at the front of his car through my mirror it looked ver very sweet from the front, i dont mind the 5door either because they have some funny handles and the doors took up.....somehow  looks  anyways   

Yes they do a TDI FR (170 DFP version) and 2.0TFSI (200 version).  Very nice cars - just the interior lets them down a little IMO

[joesgti]

ahah thought so 

[Komenda]

Standard Golf damping is ok but the springs are shocking (IMO)

The Golf is setup to be an all round hatchback, easily driveable but quick when you want to press on, all the things to all men. The Cupra and S3 are setup more aggressively (sporty I guess you could say) which translates to better handling which gives you more confidence.

With standard suspension I would agree, my mates Leon is more sure footed and felt like it had more grip in the corners. With my current setup though I wipe the floor with him, even with his better brakes. Its not for everone as it is quite firm and the low profile tyres and wide wheels certainly wouldn't forgive a driver who lacked confidence.

[Peskarik]

So Cupra is cheaper and faster, and sportier...

Would I buy it?

HEEEEEEL NO!

And no need for "what if E30 had better breaks and DSG and springs, surely it would beat Cupra and maybe even S3", because I don't give a scheisse

Barry said it best:

Don't go changing, trying to please me
You never let me down before
I don't imagine you're too familiar
And I don't see you anymore
I would not leave you in times of trouble
We never could have come this far
I took the good times, I'll take the bad times
I'll take you just the way you are

[hotrod]

So Cupra is cheaper and faster, and sportier...

Would I buy it?

HEEEEEEL NO!

And no need for "what if E30 had better breaks and DSG and springs, surely it would beat Cupra and maybe even S3", because I don't give a scheisse

Barry said it best:

Don't go changing, trying to please me
You never let me down before
I don't imagine you're too familiar
And I don't see you anymore
I would not leave you in times of trouble
We never could have come this far
I took the good times, I'll take the bad times
I'll take you just the way you are

Peskarik... you need to get out more

Hotrod

[Phil mcavity]

<<graps a bucket       , dont give your day job !!

[TagnuT]

Standard Golf damping is ok but the springs are shocking (IMO)

The Golf is setup to be an all round hatchback, easily driveable but quick when you want to press on, all the things to all men. The Cupra and S3 are setup more aggressively (sporty I guess you could say) which translates to better handling which gives you more confidence.

With standard suspension I would agree, my mates Leon is more sure footed and felt like it had more grip in the corners. With my current setup though I wipe the floor with him, even with his better brakes. Its not for everone as it is quite firm and the low profile tyres and wide wheels certainly wouldn't forgive a driver who lacked confidence.

Same lights as Hurdy?? ( ther picture in your Sig Komenda)

[RedRobin]

I think the reason the ED30 didn't do as well as the other two on the track is down to the brakes (as they say they were getting a lot of fade).

....Exactly what I was going to post. Also that bigger brakes (did I mention I've got AP Racing Big Brake Kit, or have I posted any pics? ) would allow the Ed30 to brake much later and save significant lap time on most circuits.